DUST Search - Bitter Vet with Questions Contemplating a Return

DAAAA BEAST wrote:

Oh the game is fun when you hang with the right people.

They added daily missions , giving you acces to a few iskies , SP and gear.
They buffed Mybrofils who nake you jump high now.
Jumpuits with mass drivers are very annoying to ennemies , and very fun to you.
The maximum you can stack is 3 tho. Melee got a buff and desls more damage.

In terms of Dropships , the 2 ADS ( python and incubus ) are balanced. Swarm Launcher is overused due to efficiency , but you will have to also get used to the plasma canon.

They got numerous buffs , the projectile flies faster , the arc decrease changed and also got a damage increase.

Matches aren't always full as the playerbase is dangerously dropping , but the new patch might change that.

I hope you have a pleasent , glorious return and show your skills on the battle field.

Speaking of chilled corps , my corp, Corrosive Synergy is relaxed and active , and will make a step into PC once I return from my small
vacation.
You can find more info about us in the corp recruitment section of the forums.

Enjoy your return.

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Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:58:00 - [1] - Quote My long and often frustrating career began in early Closed Beta and ran unbroken into Uprising. It was apparent by then that CCP wasn't able to fulfill the promise of a strategic MMOFPS, but we weren't fully aware of their intentions until we were blindsided by the "Rouge Wedding" at Fanfest 2014. I made a quiet exit, went cold turkey on the forums, and my frustration level plummeted. I've managed to forget all about DUST for over a year when I got to wondering if it still existed and how much SP I might have accumulated. Maybe that was a mistake because 66M SP with 24M unallocated triggered the latent desire to shop for skills and upgrade my abilities. But things have changed quite a bit in over a year since I left so I'm here to ask a few questions before I commit myself to a return. I read the Dev blogs on Warlord and dug into the forums to get a flavor for the current conditions. I found that Project Legion is dead and DUST appears to be getting some attention even if CCP isn't any better at development than before. I've read conflicting opinions on whether or not DUST will die with the PS3 or get a port. So first question, does it look like it has a future at all, and if not how long until the plug gets pulled? It appears CCP is finally attempting to shut off the ISK fountain that was PC 1.0. That's a couple years too late as the big PC corps now have years worth of ISK in their wallets. Second question: Is that making Proto-Stomping by the PC corps as big a problem as it was back then, or is it better or worse? I just read that the price of Proto Suits has dropped significantly so maybe one doesn't have to have a rich uncle in PC to afford to run Proto in pubs. My true love was and always will be flying dropships. I began flying when piloting first required skill and was a passionate advocate though artificial flight ceilings, the days we reigned supreme, and the days we were expensive pi+¦atas for redline rail tanks. I hoped that the maps would open up and finally make dropships vital to a match. I see that never happened. However with EQ Bandwidth it appears there may be an actual transport role, or perhaps at minimum a role for the MCRU. Third question: What are dropships being used for now? Is there a real role for a pilot in the game as it stands? Are they more than cheap rides to sniper perches an DU on building tops? Related to that, how viable is flying? I hear the cost of the ADS has dropped and that EQ Bandwidth has caused the FG threat to abate somewhat. What about redline rail tanks? Can one make a living flying in the present environment? Flying was always an expensive hobby so I had a day job as well. I ran Logistics my whole career through the changing environment. I was what we called a true "Logibro" running the three R's and I made a pretty good living at it. Yes, I did deploy a ton of equipment, but it was all placed carefully to assist my team rather than harvest WP's. I figure I can adjust to the EQ Bandwidth. I read that Logis are now back in demand, or at least they were a few months ago in the posts that I dug up. How is it running Logi now? Are the Logibros enjoying the role now? As a side note how is the MD now? The arc of the shot made it my favorite support weapon and I would enjoy firing it again. Finally a more fuzzy question: Is it fun? I've lowered my expectations for the game. I no longer look for this to be more than a 16v16 lobby shooter, I've got another project that I've transferred those hopes to. But within those constraints is it more fun than frustrating? Is there room for solo play or a more laid back corp like Tritan Industries or Bullet Cluster used to be
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:04:00 - [2] - Quote When flying the SL will be your biggest enemy, Logistics are still far and wide in my experience, get a Minmatar commando leveled up with pro 5 and its an absolute killer, the measurement of fun in DUST is souly based on the people you hang with. Try negative feedback "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:06:00 - [3] - Quote Its free. Come back, play a few games. Decide how you feel. But to answer questions, ads is cheaper, but much less threatening. Av is more prevalent, but with careful consideration you can make money flying, hell even fly8ng taxi mcru with mounted missiles can net you a profit. The MD is still super fun, still viable for support, and not in a bad place. All in all, you decide if its fun or not. Theres plenty of us around from closed beta for our own reasons. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:34:00 - [4] - Quote Oh the game is fun when you hang with the right people. They added daily missions , giving you acces to a few iskies , SP and gear. They buffed Mybrofils who nake you jump high now. Jumpuits with mass drivers are very annoying to ennemies , and very fun to you. The maximum you can stack is 3 tho. Melee got a buff and desls more damage. In terms of Dropships , the 2 ADS ( python and incubus ) are balanced. Swarm Launcher is overused due to efficiency , but you will have to also get used to the plasma canon. They got numerous buffs , the projectile flies faster , the arc decrease changed and also got a damage increase. Matches aren't always full as the playerbase is dangerously dropping , but the new patch might change that. I hope you have a pleasent , glorious return and show your skills on the battle field. Speaking of chilled corps , my corp, Corrosive Synergy is relaxed and active , and will make a step into PC once CEO of Corrosive Synergy Teacher of fun and preacher of LOLs. *Romanian to an extent.*
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 856	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:26:00 - [5] - Quote ADS is fun if you learn to keep moving and either strafe through or pop hardeners and swoop in, fire a few shots and fly off. ADS are weak now against swarms and swarms won't even show graphics most times. Add to that the lag of swarms firing on you and you could go down fast if you don't assume swarms will be firing at you as you swoop in. I like to pop uplinks on roofs when able and pop scans and shoot uplinks. That is now their main job it seems. No more hover and tank damage. Watch out for myofibs. You can jump way up now. They have been nerfed from what they were doing, but still annoying. Tanks are fun again. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
IceShifter Childhaspawn Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 681	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:33:00 - [6] - Quote Just came back too. Ds have changed. Tanks too. They dont play like they used to due to the Av situation. They feel like a challenge now as opposed to the feeling you got in beta when you saw a heavy. Logis are few in pubs and usually found raking in WP on smaller teams. Md isnt the lawn mower it used to be but still good at area denial, you will see that the ScR and the RR are the popular weapons. Speedy scouts are still the thing. TTK is a tad low but not too terrible and armor tanking seems to outclass shields. The favorite team tactics nowadays is to lag everyone else out. Pubs are full of guns and rarely equipment. You rarely see anyone dropping a link more than once. Solo play is 2 good fights for every 7 redlines/ stomps, so better than before. Youll be up against entire teams of queue synced teams fully proto'd. Running proto weapons on adv suits seems to help but most people just leave the match. My two weeks back have been 12 days of okay I can do this and 2 days of redlined half full teams where Im almost certain that slamming a sledgehammer into my foot would be more entertaining. It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
Fire of Prometheus Band O' Commandos 5	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:37:00 - [7] - Quote I too have returned and let me tell ya....but a suit and skill up the blue bottles cause people are literally jumping into roofs with them King of Commandos - And Dust's #1 best dressed merc. Destiny name - FireofPrometheus PSN- jcptmo8055
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:53:00 - [8] - Quote Thanks for the tips and thoughts. Unfortunately it looks like the lack of recent DS posts is due to their relative lack of utility. Only two out of nine good matches with the rest redlined? Hmmmm.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:55:00 - [9] - Quote Skihids wrote: Thanks for the tips and thoughts. Unfortunately it looks like the lack of recent DS posts is due to their relative lack of utility. Only two out of nine good matches with the rest redlined? Hmmmm. Yeeeah...you should probably find a FW channel to get good games. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.30 04:13:00 - [10] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I too have returned and let me tell ya....but a suit and skill up the blue bottles cause people are literally jumping into roofs with them You sig is a bit of an overstatement sir. Aero is King of theCommando! Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 06:54:00 - [11] - Quote Skihids wrote: Thanks for the tips and thoughts. Unfortunately it looks like the lack of recent DS posts is due to their relative lack of utility. Only two out of nine good matches with the rest redlined? Hmmmm. They're scheduled to get a buff. Normal DS for transport/recon and AI (I believe) whereas ADS are AV (more like gunships). I'd have to see where on the trello board what exactly is happening with them. Achura Bloodline Loyalist of the State Join Caldari FW
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 8	Posted - 2015.06.30 09:29:00 - [12] - Quote You call that bitter.... You don't know bitter! Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you. I'm kind of a big deal. Get Dust ISK Here
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:24:00 - [13] - Quote Skihids wrote: It appears CCP is finally attempting to shut off the ISK fountain that was PC 1.0. That's a couple years too late as the big PC corps now have years worth of ISK in their wallets. Second question: Is that making Proto-Stomping by the PC corps as big a problem as it was back then, or is it better or worse? I just read that the price of Proto Suits has dropped significantly so maybe one doesn't have to have a rich uncle in PC to afford to run Proto in pubs. The ISK flow got shut off months ago. For a while, there's actually been no ISK generation in PC at all. The current changes are to make people actually want to play it, and for it to be reasonably worthwhile but not overwhelmingly lucrative. Protostomping is probably at an all time high. We're at a point where there are mostly vets hanging about and it's become much easier to fund protosuits. While protosuits used to be a relative rarity, it's pretty rare now to have a match without at least half a dozen people a side in proto. Quote: Finally a more fuzzy question: Is it fun? I've lowered my expectations for the game. I no longer look for this to be more than a 16v16 lobby shooter, I've got another project that I've transferred those hopes to. But within those constraints is it more fun than frustrating? Is there room for solo play or a more laid back corp like Tritan Industries or Bullet Cluster used to be Eh. I rarely solo nowadays due to the proliferation of proto, and I've been drifting away from the game. I think it's alright in a casual squad. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:28:00 - [14] - Quote -The game has no future and wont get ported to next gen. -CCP is REOPENING the ISK fountain with the upcoming PC changes -Flying= suicidal task dont bother with it cause as soon you get 1-3 kills you have 6 swarm launchers onto your ass -Solo play in pubs might be more viable cause they reducing squads to 4 -massdrivers wont stand a chance vs any rifle in the game. Overall i would say that you burry your PS3 in your garden and forget about Dust all together. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
IceShifter Childhaspawn Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 683	Posted - 2015.06.30 11:09:00 - [15] - Quote Skihids wrote: Thanks for the tips and thoughts. Unfortunately it looks like the lack of recent DS posts is due to their relative lack of utility. Only two out of nine good matches with the rest redlined? Hmmmm. Yup. I define a redline when its my side or the other since its boring and frustrating to all. Goodfights I define as those awesome last tick/ last clone fights. Had many more now than before. It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 745	Posted - 2015.06.30 11:19:00 - [16] - Quote DO NOT PULL OUT A DROPSHIP INLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO PULLOUT MULTIPLE. AV TO STRONG AGAINST THEM. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 881	Posted - 2015.06.30 11:21:00 - [17] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Oh the game is fun when you hang with the right people. They added daily missions , giving you acces to a few iskies , SP and gear. They buffed Mybrofils who nake you jump high now. Jumpuits with mass drivers are very annoying to ennemies , and very fun to you. The maximum you can stack is 3 tho. Melee got a buff and desls more damage. In terms of Dropships , the 2 ADS ( python and incubus ) are balanced. Swarm Launcher is overused due to efficiency , but you will have to also get used to the plasma canon. They got numerous buffs , the projectile flies faster , the arc decrease changed and also got a damage increase. Matches aren't always full as the playerbase is dangerously dropping , but the new patch might change that. I hope you have a pleasent , glorious return and show your skills on the battle field. Speaking of chilled corps , my corp, Corrosive Synergy is relaxed and active , and will make a step into PC once I return from my small vacation. You can find more info about us in the corp recruitment section of the forums. Enjoy your return. Dropships arent balanced beast. They need more fitting room and an extra slot each. Wanna play eve?
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 789	Posted - 2015.06.30 12:11:00 - [18] - Quote Dude! That moment when you return to a high double digit unallocated SP count. SHIMMY!!! Saying what's on people's minds
Fire of Prometheus Band O' Commandos 5	Posted - 2015.06.30 13:43:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I too have returned and let me tell ya....but a suit and skill up the blue bottles cause people are literally jumping into roofs with them You signature is a bit of an overstatement sir and I demand satisfaction you Commando blackguard. Aero is King of the Commando! FOR THE KING! Lol right I was the avatar of commandos Speaking of the lad, where is he? King of Commandos - And Dust's #1 best dressed merc. Destiny name - FireofPrometheus PSN- jcptmo8055
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.06.30 15:29:00 - [20] - Quote Hey, I know that guy! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Zene Ren Ametat Security Amarr Empire 133	Posted - 2015.06.30 15:57:00 - [21] - Quote Hey Skihids WB! i've seen Cody and Fish running in some corp ahh yeah Cody replied to you already i see. I think Banjo is there also, i will be trying to get to them also later! Nice to see your interest in game back! cheers! Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.30 20:32:00 - [22] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I too have returned and let me tell ya....but a suit and skill up the blue bottles cause people are literally jumping into roofs with them You signature is a bit of an overstatement sir and I demand satisfaction you Commando blackguard. Aero is King of the Commando! FOR THE KING! Lol right I was the avatar of commandos Speaking of the lad, where is he? Playing Ark: Survival Evolved I'm looking into some gaming PC's to join him and Nightchild.....most of my Duster friends have moved onto PC. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 02:50:00 - [23] - Quote Damn Cody! So some of the old gang is still around? Tell me when you are on most times so we can meet up!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.01 03:04:00 - [24] - Quote Yes, return! But not right now. Can't log on right now. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 03:07:00 - [25] - Quote Yeah, I noticed that. I was wondering if that was a sign from CCP or if those hamsters were just dying of old age. They only live a few years and it's been a lifetime since the start of Closed Beta for them.
Fire of Prometheus Band O' Commandos 5	Posted - 2015.07.02 03:08:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I too have returned and let me tell ya....but a suit and skill up the blue bottles cause people are literally jumping into roofs with them You signature is a bit of an overstatement sir and I demand satisfaction you Commando blackguard. Aero is King of the Commando! FOR THE KING! Lol right I was the avatar of commandos Speaking of the lad, where is he? Playing Ark: Survival Evolved I'm looking into some gaming PC's to join him and Nightchild.....most of my Duster friends have moved onto PC. Guess it's just me and you....soon to be just me tho King of Commandos - And Dust's #1 best dressed merc. Destiny name - FireofPrometheus PSN- jcptmo8055
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.07.02 04:16:00 - [27] - Quote Skihids wrote: Damn Cody! So some of the old gang is still around? Tell me when you are on most times so we can meet up! Not much of the old crew it around sadly. Still have Dan, myself and Banjo. And Zene says he's getting back into it. We mostly get on around 6:00-8:00pm eastern, but we don't have the old BCG chat. I'll send you guys the name of the channel we are in mostly in game. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire


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