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Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 184	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:07:00 - [1] - Quote Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre CEO / Art.of.Death
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 551	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:10:00 - [2] - Quote Yea... the one thing that does scare me, though, is the Assault HMG. I feel it is the cake that you get to eat, too. The range needs to be brought back into line, while increasing the strength of the base HMG to match it. Honestly, I am way more afraid of that gun than anything else in the game, currently. Also, I think the burst needs a slight reworking... maybe a slower heat build up as weapon level progresses. It is no longer the "heavy shotgun" that it once was. However, I would like to see how this plays out with the nerfs to movement speed, as that has a lot to do with the current heavy weakness, imho. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Panthrax Oblivion 273	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:11:00 - [3] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Find me in battle. I think I'll be able to change your mind (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Turbo controller sissies
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 741	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:13:00 - [4] - Quote I completely agree with you. AND CCP, PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD ASSAULT HAMG WITH MORE RANGE AND MAKE CURRENT ONE THE BREACH VERSION. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:18:00 - [5] - Quote I too miss the fear caused by the heavy. I don't think reducing the range is a good idea. The upcoming strafe nerfs should help hmg heavies, won't be so easy to strafe through the damage. Despite this, I think heavy damage mods should be improved. 5% just isn't enough, it should be 7% like light mods. Not only will this help the hmg, but it would greatly help balance Gal, Min and Amarr sentinels. Which is much needed in my opinion. Caldari sentinels could do with shield rep tools. Yes this would buff forge guns as well, but that's no bad thing in my opinion, with the way tanks are at the moment.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 834	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:18:00 - [6] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre I dunno about you man, but Ive been getting reamed from 50 meters by assault HMGs these days, Im thinking about complaining about it and suggesting a nerf, but Im not 100% on board with it yet. :\ Disagree that HMGs are bad now.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 214	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:32:00 - [7] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: I completely agree with you. AND CCP, PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD ASSAULT HAMG WITH MORE RANGE AND MAKE CURRENT ONE THE BREACH VERSION. This!!!!!!!! CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 3	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:35:00 - [8] - Quote Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight....
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.06.29 20:35:00 - [9] - Quote Strafe changes should help with the wiggle wiggle. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.06.29 21:05:00 - [10] - Quote The ~~Assault~~ Breach HMG is still pretty scary. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.

nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 299	Posted - 2015.06.29 21:15:00 - [11] - Quote I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 267	Posted - 2015.06.29 21:20:00 - [12] - Quote I 1v1'd a STD Amarr Sentinel in my Scout mk.0 from 18 meters without any cover. I lost a total of 370eHP compared to his 1100... If heavies were scary, I would have run. RS-90 > HMG However, the Assault HMG scares me sh*tless. "You only need a hundred acres to have one helluva hood" `-Shadow`
Louis Domi Tugastroy 952	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:06:00 - [13] - Quote Heavies haven't been scary since open beta... I remember a time when heavies were tall and proud, spreading fear and making people **** their pants at the sheer sight of them... Now, I can't even spit in the direction of some heavies without them dying on me
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:19:00 - [14] - Quote Try to do 'wiggle wiggle' in front of a 1800hp sentinel with whores behind him, then come back. Lone sentinel shouldn't be a problem. Loyal to The State Member of State Protectorate // Belongs to Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:34:00 - [15] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight.... Unfortunately for the reds, it's those who don't spot the dagger-wielding ape first that die embarrassingly. Oh, and this fit works best covering an indoor letter without scanners or scouts around. Selling Items Store - Player Trading
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:40:00 - [16] - Quote It's not heavies being nerfed, its the wiggle wiggle being OP Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons I am the Anti-FoTM
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 3	Posted - 2015.06.29 22:47:00 - [17] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight.... Unfortunately for the reds, it's those who don't spot the dagger-wielding ape first that die embarrassingly. Oh, and this fit works best covering an indoor letter without scanners or scouts around. And he does it so effortlessly.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.29 23:36:00 - [18] - Quote I prefer the HMGs now to the old ones. They just need more range. It's more fitting to have a massive clip for sustained suppressing fire, rather than just being a heavy shotgun. That's the entire purpose of a machine gun, anyway. Not caring about KD
IVIaster LUKE Art.of.Death 905	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:13:00 - [19] - Quote You want range? Put a sniper rifle or a bolt pistol on your heavy. An HMG with range. LULZ GTFO. D.I. - Team Goon Achura Bloodline: War Monk.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:21:00 - [20] - Quote Wait until the changes go through. Wiggling will not be a problem, and with less speed Assaults will be more balanced and you will see an increase in both numbers of sentinels and efficacy. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

castba Rogue Instincts Evil Syndicate Alliance. 962	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:31:00 - [21] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Nerf the range? CCP just did that for non-assault variants. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 185	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:42:00 - [22] - Quote castba wrote: Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Nerf the range? CCP just did that for non-assault variants. They double nerfed the HMG. That's the whole point. In order to achieve balance, you can't double nerf everything. A good balance is increase damage, decrease range. You'll have a weapon built for it's purpose. Mainly: point defense. CEO / Art.of.Death
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 959	Posted - 2015.06.30 01:49:00 - [23] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Wait until the changes go through. Wiggling will not be a problem, and with less speed Assaults will be more balanced and you will see an increase in both numbers of sentinels and efficacy. I can't wait "Anybody order chaos?"
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:00:00 - [24] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre No...the simple answer is to get rid of all ADV and PRO variants of weapons. But there are some cryhards who can't play without PRO weapons, so... unlikely. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 185	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:08:00 - [25] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre No...the simple answer is to get rid of all ADV and PRO variants of weapons. But there are some cryhards who can't play without PRO weapons, so... unlikely. Are you f#cking serious or are you just trolling??? if you're serious...lmao CEO / Art.of.Death
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.30 02:17:00 - [26] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice What I love about you nelo is how desorganized your writing is , the opposite of your batlle dictation. CEO of Corrosive Synergy Teacher of fun and preacher of LOLs. *Romanian to an extent.*
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:14:00 - [27] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice What I love about you nelo is how desorganized your writing is , the opposite of your batlle dictation. I read his works sometimes and have to think "wtf did I just read" Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons I am the Anti-FoTM
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC 369	Posted - 2015.06.30 03:25:00 - [28] - Quote Op must face a surplus of garbage heavies, freedom hmg and bolt pistols both make heavies viable at medium ranges. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
korrah silain True Illuminate 82	Posted - 2015.06.30 08:32:00 - [29] - Quote I disagree, the only time I feel confident against a heavy is if I either have the drop on them, or if I have allys near by in a flanking position.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.30 08:56:00 - [30] - Quote It seems there can only be one viable variant of hmg at a time in ccp logic. First the standard, then the burst, now the assault. Its okay to stick with what you know but one variant always outshines the others....eh (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:03:00 - [31] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Buff the range, reign in the damage. I'd rather see heavies as fire support. Oh and if you nerf the range anymore heavies range will be almost identical to shotguns. If that happens, heavy weapons will be abandoned. I use the AHMG for the range. The significantly lower DPS doesn't bother me even slightly. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
demonkiller 12 TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 818	Posted - 2015.06.30 10:18:00 - [32] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre heavies and HMGs are fine, if youre inside a building and its a 1v1 you and a heavy, youre fked, you have no where to strafe to or flank him, thats the ONLY area a heavy should ever be, also HMGs are fine
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 789	Posted - 2015.06.30 12:16:00 - [33] - Quote Because gen pop hates scary heavies. Dude, it was funny and sad to watch the forums moan and groan about heavies. A wise Dust player once told me... "Skill into everything so you won't cry like they had, when their tears reduced your item into nothing fluff" Saying what's on people's minds
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 213	Posted - 2015.06.30 13:24:00 - [34] - Quote Level up hmg proficiency to 5. Level up your warbarge weapons damage. Bring out a caldari sentinel. Put 2 damage mods on it. Now jump in front of an ammar sentinel with a logi behind him. Wiggle a little and fill his fat boddy full of lead. Wait a second after he dies and watch the logi scramble to change to a weapon in disbelief that his heavy was taken out Blast him with lead. Now there will be a third guy looking at all of this so he wil try to take a few shots. Go ahead and squeeze that trigger a few times. He will start running for the hills trying to save his life. He figures you have no range with your hmg so he should be safe. He would be right as far as the hmg goes. He, however forgot to take into account the range of your bolt pistol. As he runs barely reaching the horizon aim down your sigth and let a slug out. BAM!!! scorch his lungs with your bolt slug. He'll drop right on his face in front of a red berrys feet. Now, take a moment to look at that red berry standing at the distance. Look him straight in the eye for a second then wirhout a care retreat into your hideout. If he wants it he'll know where to find you. He also knows what awaits him.
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge No Context 982	Posted - 2015.06.30 15:16:00 - [35] - Quote Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I freak out and go into b!tch mode and do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. I'm saved. I'm scared. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. I cannot man up and face it because I freak out and go into b!tch mode and do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 187	Posted - 2015.06.30 23:32:00 - [36] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote: Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I freak out and go into b!tch mode and do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone. I'm saved. I'm scared. Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been: -NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck. I cannot man up and face it because I freak out and go into b!tch mode and do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. That is all. ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre CEO / Art.of.Death


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