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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:07:00 -
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Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre
CEO / Art.of.Death
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
551
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:10:00 -
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Yea... the one thing that does scare me, though, is the Assault HMG. I feel it is the cake that you get to eat, too. The range needs to be brought back into line, while increasing the strength of the base HMG to match it. Honestly, I am way more afraid of that gun than anything else in the game, currently. Also, I think the burst needs a slight reworking... maybe a slower heat build up as weapon level progresses. It is no longer the "heavy shotgun" that it once was.
However, I would like to see how this plays out with the nerfs to movement speed, as that has a lot to do with the current heavy weakness, imho.
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:11:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Find me in battle. I think I'll be able to change your mind
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
741
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:13:00 -
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I completely agree with you.
AND CCP, PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD ASSAULT HAMG WITH MORE RANGE AND MAKE CURRENT ONE THE BREACH VERSION.
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:18:00 -
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I too miss the fear caused by the heavy. I don't think reducing the range is a good idea.
The upcoming strafe nerfs should help hmg heavies, won't be so easy to strafe through the damage.
Despite this, I think heavy damage mods should be improved. 5% just isn't enough, it should be 7% like light mods. Not only will this help the hmg, but it would greatly help balance Gal, Min and Amarr sentinels. Which is much needed in my opinion. Caldari sentinels could do with shield rep tools.
Yes this would buff forge guns as well, but that's no bad thing in my opinion, with the way tanks are at the moment. |
Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
834
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:18:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre
I dunno about you man, but Ive been getting reamed from 50 meters by assault HMGs these days, Im thinking about complaining about it and suggesting a nerf, but Im not 100% on board with it yet. :\
Disagree that HMGs are bad now. |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
214
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:32:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:I completely agree with you.
AND CCP, PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD ASSAULT HAMG WITH MORE RANGE AND MAKE CURRENT ONE THE BREACH VERSION. This!!!!!!!!
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:35:00 -
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Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight.... |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.06.29 20:35:00 -
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Strafe changes should help with the wiggle wiggle.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:05:00 -
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The Assault Breach HMG is still pretty scary.
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415
299
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:15:00 -
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I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
267
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:20:00 -
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I 1v1'd a STD Amarr Sentinel in my Scout mk.0 from 18 meters without any cover.
I lost a total of 370eHP compared to his 1100... If heavies were scary, I would have run.
RS-90 > HMG
However, the Assault HMG scares me sh*tless.
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-Shadow
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
952
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:06:00 -
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Heavies haven't been scary since open beta... I remember a time when heavies were tall and proud, spreading fear and making people **** their pants at the sheer sight of them... Now, I can't even spit in the direction of some heavies without them dying on me |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:19:00 -
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Try to do 'wiggle wiggle' in front of a 1800hp sentinel with whores behind him, then come back. Lone sentinel shouldn't be a problem.
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:34:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight.... Unfortunately for the reds, it's those who don't spot the dagger-wielding ape first that die embarrassingly.
Oh, and this fit works best covering an indoor letter without scanners or scouts around.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
4
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:40:00 -
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It's not heavies being nerfed, its the wiggle wiggle being OP
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.29 22:47:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Mr Musturd with a Sentinel holding knives is an awe-inspiring sight.... Unfortunately for the reds, it's those who don't spot the dagger-wielding ape first that die embarrassingly. Oh, and this fit works best covering an indoor letter without scanners or scouts around.
And he does it so effortlessly. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.06.29 23:36:00 -
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I prefer the HMGs now to the old ones. They just need more range.
It's more fitting to have a massive clip for sustained suppressing fire, rather than just being a heavy shotgun. That's the entire purpose of a machine gun, anyway.
Not caring about KD
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IVIaster LUKE
Art.of.Death
905
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Posted - 2015.06.30 00:13:00 -
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You want range?
Put a sniper rifle or a bolt pistol on your heavy.
An HMG with range. LULZ GTFO.
D.I. - Team Goon
Achura Bloodline: War Monk.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.30 00:21:00 -
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Wait until the changes go through.
Wiggling will not be a problem, and with less speed Assaults will be more balanced and you will see an increase in both numbers of sentinels and efficacy.
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castba
Rogue Instincts Evil Syndicate Alliance.
962
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Posted - 2015.06.30 00:31:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Nerf the range? CCP just did that for non-assault variants.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
185
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:42:00 -
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castba wrote:Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre Nerf the range? CCP just did that for non-assault variants.
They double nerfed the HMG. That's the whole point. In order to achieve balance, you can't double nerf everything. A good balance is increase damage, decrease range. You'll have a weapon built for it's purpose. Mainly: point defense.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
959
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:49:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Wait until the changes go through.
Wiggling will not be a problem, and with less speed Assaults will be more balanced and you will see an increase in both numbers of sentinels and efficacy.
I can't wait
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:00:00 -
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre
No...the simple answer is to get rid of all ADV and PRO variants of weapons.
But there are some cryhards who can't play without PRO weapons, so... unlikely.
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
185
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:08:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:Since the nerf of the HMG, every time I see a heavy I do the wiggle wiggle, shake shake, jump around...and shoot. Heavy gone.
Bring back the HMG. Not as it was before. My suggestions is and has been:
-NERF THE RANGE -BUFF DAMAGE OUTPUT
It's really simple. HMG is a close quarter, no contest weapon. A heavy is supposed to be a sitting duck with lot's of firepower. As it is right now, it's just a sitting duck.
That is all.
ooxxooXoXXx -Nacho libre No...the simple answer is to get rid of all ADV and PRO variants of weapons. But there are some cryhards who can't play without PRO weapons, so... unlikely.
Are you f#cking serious or are you just trolling??? if you're serious...lmao
CEO / Art.of.Death
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:17:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice What I love about you nelo is how desorganized your writing is , the opposite of your batlle dictation.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
4
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Posted - 2015.06.30 03:14:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:nelo kazuma wrote:I use both tje assault hmg and the regular one at cqc versus other heavies in close quaters I melt em with regular cuz its so prefered had a guy send me hate mail cuz I was using a cal sentinal and melted him and his logi 6 times in a row cuz he was using assault and was in proto and I was just In my bpo with basic. He was like " u fuking lagging piece of shiet" im like nope u just got to accustomed to assault u forget regular is superior in close range fights. As for nerfing range dont agree for not only newbies but vets who like running heavy nerfing range is basically saying oh u cant use ur suit in open stages sucks to be u. A semi long range hmg is nice What I love about you nelo is how desorganized your writing is , the opposite of your batlle dictation. I read his works sometimes and have to think "wtf did I just read"
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
I am the Anti-FoTM
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Heracles Porsche
Capital Acquisitions LLC
369
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Posted - 2015.06.30 03:25:00 -
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Op must face a surplus of garbage heavies, freedom hmg and bolt pistols both make heavies viable at medium ranges.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
82
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:32:00 -
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I disagree, the only time I feel confident against a heavy is if I either have the drop on them, or if I have allys near by in a flanking position. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.06.30 08:56:00 -
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It seems there can only be one viable variant of hmg at a time in ccp logic. First the standard, then the burst, now the assault. Its okay to stick with what you know but one variant always outshines the others....eh
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