If you're talking real life, might as well pick a new game. I didn't know you can replenish Grenades using real life Nanohives. Since you want to talk about concussive shock, why doesn't the screen quake at the very explosion of a grenade going off ? Oh right. Sci-Fi future FPS.

what needs to happen is that an indicator should pop up if a grenade is withing a 7 meter radius of you

they are all fine as they are and I wouldn't even mind a buff to them if this was implemented they could even give it a profile so if you have the scan precision you can see it coming, 55 at std 45 at adv and 35 at proto then

i think they do have an indicator, or at least they used to

just think, we're probably not far off battlefield personal 3d combat printers...... basically a nanohive

They do not.

They do not.

Considering how much energy that would require I doubt it would make sense to actually make one in real life. Who would carry a printer onto a battlefield and the material to make their supplies instead of just supplies?

The core nade is not op, BUT sometimes does over 600 damage

Then pray tell, how I keep getting killed by them in my sentinel suits with it doing over 700 damage? But beside the point cores are getting spammed without hesitation..... especially when one puts up a fight...

It always does over 1000 damage to me.

Damage of the grenade's simply need to normalize across basic-proto, simply either increase it's radius only (recommended) , or increase the amount of isk they cost and decrease CPU and PG (not recommended). Or find something else for the grenade to tier better at, but clearly damage for explosive's need to be the same across basic to proto (as I said earlier).

M1 grenades are useful... Assuming you aren't using grenades as cheap ass "**** ima die and this guys is at full HP" instablapping.

Methinks M1 level is good for grenades

Just had a great thought on how to balance nades in a new way, one that might just make them still useful without drastic changes that hurt every one. Simply put, make them put the grenade hurler at a brief disadvantage after each throw. Not unlike the seize of a weapon over heating. Being unable to sprint or fire your real weapon for even just 1 or two seconds after each grenade would help get rid of those cooked grenade chucker's.

You could even make it something like the scrambler riffle charge shot and have it impair your mobility before you throw it instead of after. Which is another big point, scrambler riffles and forge guns have a glowing light show and a bit humming noise to tell people your charging up a deadly shot. Why are grenades so salient and deadly? Who ever heard of stealthy explosives.

Going back to the 'grenades in real life' scenario. They were never ment to be thrown in the face of a guy 5 feet from you. You tossed them over walls, around corners etc. It was a strong toss, one you put effort into, and in many cases forced you to expose yourself to enemy fire to do so.

Alternatively you could just alter the explosive timer to be a bit more random. That way if you try to cook them to long it blow up in your hands since you don't know if it will explode on 4 seconds or 7. This would still allow them to be good tactical weapons, tossing them at people in cover to either hurt/kill them or to force them to break cover to get away from the nade. I think grenades should be deadly, but not as silent as they are now. More visible on scree indicator would be nice, perhaps a tell tale sound as they pass threw the air that you can actually hear. If there is one now I never hear it over the rest of the combat sounds.

But not as something you prime up and chuck at a guy as you charge up at him in full sprint.

] You want to remove the cooking ability? And hinder movement speed? Hope it come with longer throw's, larger blast radius, and 600 damage across the board for any of them to be useful, also got to remember, low EHP player's need to take out high EHP player's, not many weapon's can do that.

Those are simply my opinion's, though I don't want to see the cooking ability go as that has taken quite a bit of skill to use, knowing just when to throw it before you hear the massive "CLICK" is very much my favorite past time in dust, at least as a shield user anyway. However removing the cooking part of the grenade's would also help AV player's as they wouldn't have to worry about the grenade's exploding in their hand's, hell they could function far better as mine's even.

The progression for locus nades makes no sense.

STD - 300 dmg
ADV - 400 dmg
PRO - 600 dmg!!!

Should be (in my opinion)

STD - 400
ADV - 500
PRO - 600

Blast radius should be normalised amongst all tiers.

For fluxes it should bethe blast radius and detonation time that differentiates tiers not damage.

Pro tip - if your having issues with cores, ditch the damage mods and slap on a few extenders your shields should soak up enough of the damage to leave you alive.

If for whatever reason nades are giving headshot bonus or their is a calculation error obv this needs to be fixed.

Ive said it before reduce core to one increase nanite cost increase thunker to 2