If Scotty must serve low-quality matches, adjusting pay scales would be the very best way to keep players playing.

As a given lobby's Mu disparity increases, the underdog SP / Isk multiplier increases. The steeper the odds are against you, the more you get paid at the end of the match. Once it is worthwhile to do so, more players will stick it out and fight through the low-quality matches.

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Exactly what I have been trying to say but no one seems to be able to wrap their head around the difference between buffing payouts and creating a payout system meant to drive good matches no matter how bad Scotty has been hit in the head.

I punitive timer would really hurt this game.


Match leaving can't be completely fixed as long as teams are so frequently mis-matched.

A lot of vets forget what it's like to be new. Some people turn Dust on and just want to play pubs and have fun, while full squads of protostompers ruin that experience.

I never leave battles, but not everyone is rich enough to run proto forever.

It would be a pretty big slap in the face for a player who has already decided this game is not going to be enjoyable enough to play, and then force them to stare at an (increasingly long) penalty timer.

I couldn't think of a better way to drive away what's left of our player base.


Pending better balance and matchmaking, a much better idea for this problem is to reward players who routinely stick it through to the end

I find it funny that it's a proto-stomping Negative Feedback member to suggest additional penalties against those who wanted to get away from the proto-stomping (pubs and [M]FW) because it's just not feasible to play against it... and a waste of ISK with any modified free suit (rookie suits). Or, you die over and over again in said rookie suit.

But, I digress.

One reason people leave battle is the one you mention here.

But I think you're not considering another: people don't even bother to find out if they're not gonna enjoy the battle, they just leave based on corp squads in the list of names. Some battles where I looked at the merc list at the start and thought "ugh this might be tough" have been great fun.

And when I'm getting owned....it's not always proto on the death screen. The attitude I have that made me hang around to find that out is something that is probably dying out.

It isn't totally, but there's another aspect to it. Right now, there are complaints that people are leaving matches all the time and the only fix to this offered is timer penalties. Well, what happens if nobody cares about those penalties? Then you're left in the Warbarge against anybody on the other side entirely. Then those same people don't want to play DUST anymore at all because of said penalties. Attention spans are small. "Why should I stick around and play," they will ask themselves.

I never said you were wrong either. There are absolutely issues with tier-ing and matchmaking. Just as there is also the issue of proto-stomping right now, until said teircide gets fixed. It all really goes hand-in-hand, but the point is that timer penalties aren't the fix. We want DUST to stick around and not die due to the community leaving for the next best thing.

GG, by the way. =)

Three questions that anyone can supporting character name removal can feel free to answer:

1) How does this fix people leaving because of the map?

2) How will this fix people leaving because a member of their squad did not get into the game?

3) How will this fix people leaving because of the match already being in progress (and the sever decrease in ISK paid as a result)?