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Heracles Porsche
Capital Acquisitions LLC
355
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:26:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLZaECrqHI0
basically begging CCP Rattati not to **** with our strafing. I thought I had read that wrong, but just reread the status update so ya he seems pretty intent on it. so I'm resorting to begging.
there are a healthy handful of cursewords in the above video, but since this is an fps community I doubt there is anyone majorly sensitive about it.
Basically, up till now I have never attempted to force any kind of interaction with the devs, but messing with strafe speed just feels like it could be VERY BAD FOR THIS GAME so I have made this tiny attempt to keep this game from going to boogers.
I have always felt (intuitevely) that there was some kind of wall seperating dust youtubers from devs, but I hoping I imagined it cause I really want to reach out this time. Regardless, I welcome feedback from everyone who wants to add it.
Other then that, hope you've enjoyed my video, and everyone have a fantastic day.
Videos Erry Day
https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
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Deputy ReGnUM
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:30:00 -
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Heracles Porsche wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLZaECrqHI0
basically begging CCP Rattati not to **** with our strafing. I thought I had read that wrong, but just reread the status update so ya he seems pretty intent on it. so I'm resorting to begging.
there are a healthy handful of cursewords in the above video, but since this is an fps community I doubt there is anyone majorly sensitive about it.
Basically, up till now I have never attempted to force any kind of interaction with the devs, but messing with strafe speed just feels like it could be VERY BAD FOR THIS GAME so I have made this tiny attempt to keep this game from going to boogers.
I have always felt (intuitevely) that there was some kind of wall seperating dust youtubers from devs, but I hoping I imagined it cause I really want to reach out this time. Regardless, I welcome feedback from everyone who wants to add it.
Other then that, hope you've enjoyed my video, and everyone have a fantastic day.
It is very bad. Its a double wammy; base speed nerf + Strafe speed nerf is not good  . Too much too fast |
Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:36:00 -
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I could take it or leave it. I liked the way Dust 514 played back in Closed Beta before strafe speeds became what they are now, so it'll be a welcome change for the nostalgia purposes at least. Although, I'm concerned about how the game will stand as far as balance because all of our balance efforts up to this point were designed with the current strafe speed.
Assault HMG for instance is considered to be poor for anti-infantry uses because of the strafe speeds but when it gets hit the Assault HMG might find a new found purpose in the anti-infantry game.
Vote #TeamGreen
Because if you don't, the Caldari will be the next ones who are bias!
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:38:00 -
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I'd wait to see how it goes before pulling off a bitchin'.
CCP Rattati wrote:Dust 514 is a tactical shooter.
With these changes, perhaps we'll actually have to think before engaging a target and use "l3g1t taktix".
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
388
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:47:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I'd wait to see how it goes before pulling off a bitchin'. CCP Rattati wrote:Dust 514 is a tactical shooter. With these changes, perhaps we'll actually have to think before engaging a target and use "l3g1t taktix".
Get ready for everyone in fu@#in u jumpy fits ...
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
103
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Posted - 2015.06.20 22:53:00 -
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Heracles Porsche wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLZaECrqHI0
basically begging CCP Rattati not to **** with our strafing. I thought I had read that wrong, but just reread the status update so ya he seems pretty intent on it. so I'm resorting to begging.
there are a healthy handful of cursewords in the above video, but since this is an fps community I doubt there is anyone majorly sensitive about it.
Basically, up till now I have never attempted to force any kind of interaction with the devs, but messing with strafe speed just feels like it could be VERY BAD FOR THIS GAME so I have made this tiny attempt to keep this game from going to boogers.
I have always felt (intuitevely) that there was some kind of wall seperating dust youtubers from devs, but I hoping I imagined it cause I really want to reach out this time. Regardless, I welcome feedback from everyone who wants to add it.
Other then that, hope you've enjoyed my video, and everyone have a fantastic day.
Aww~... Baby scrub can't go without his broken minnie strafe T_T boo hoo hoo, POOR LITTLE MINMATAR YOUR ALL ALONE (well except for the fleet's you have in space, your corporation and alliance... y'know what... ignore that statement....).
Seriously though, this isn't a strafe game, this is a tactical shooter, also, potentially this could fix hit detection majorly, the main reason why HTD is so bad is cause suit's have been out strafing it's own hit ability, so even if you hip fire and see the visual hit it would count as a miss on your end, that's not skill on anyone's part, and that's not luck (unless the client start's lagging, and you get killed for it's fumble), it's a broken and abused game mechanic that need's to be straightened out, and say shite all you want, COD back in the old day's didn't have this crazy strafing (if you remember WAW it was more duck and shoot, but not a whole lot of strafing) and BF3-4-HL, you see strafing in those games, but those games don't have crazy HTD that you couldn't hit target's (except for BF4 in early day's, those day's were fun, but near god awful).
Tactical shooter mean's you're not gonna run into Floyd Mayweather punch him in the face and knock him out, it mean's you got 2 choice's go through with it and get the shite knocked out of you, or be smart, say hello, and be on your mary way.
PS. I know that the mayweather thing didn't make much sense as I said "punching", but you were and still given a choice on how to act, that's the important thing I'm trying to convey here.
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:00:00 -
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You lost me at "player skill".
Move your analogue stick in a circle and let hip fire auto aim do all the work is the essence of dancing between bullets.
Mouse and keyboard makes it much easier to hold your target while moving much faster than any analogue stick.
Player skill in a one vs one dance off is a Nova knife fight.
Using cover, movement, your environment to catch your enemy of guard, thats the dust I love.
Some idiot with 300 hp dancing in a circle at point blank range hipfiring out in the open, which is more accurate than aiming down the sights, well the sooner that's gone the better.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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Vicious Minotaur
2
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:00:00 -
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It has been awhile since I've played other FPS' that purport to be tactical, but I don't recall any of them allowing strafing to be the best damage mitigation tactic.
And, in other FPS' that do support strafing as a damage mitigation tactic (ex: DOOM, Borderlands), the "wiggle-wiggle" strafing we have in DUST is completely ineffective, and they instead encourage circle strafing or other arc-based strafes, and even strafe jumping.
Anything that kills the "wiggle-wiggle" cancer and encourages cover usage is fine by me.
I am a minotaur.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:16:00 -
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Adapt or Die
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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VAHZZ
Liquid.Hound
3
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:41:00 -
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It'll be like it was back in beta. There will be no twitching. ADAPT OR DIE! Start thinking instead of dancing.
GÖ¢ Soon, we shall meet again, in a galaxy far, far away. GÖ¢
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
921
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:45:00 -
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strafing the **** out of the hmg in a kinda tight space and being all matrix, getting taken out by some mega strafing scout making it look like i'm a star wars clone shooting at luke -_- the circle is on this guy i'm like 5-15m away this guy. I know I'm not that bad of a shot damn it...
Of course theres also times when I use this **** hard and go for the strafing jump SG or smg |
SLENDER M4N
Xer Cloud Consortium
623
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:51:00 -
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Honestly this game was at its best in chrome, but any changes to strafe im all for. Hate it when mk.0s start doing salsa in front of me. I dont know how to dance!!!
Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:52:00 -
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I wonder what impact slower movement speeds will have on system performance? From a lay perspective, it makes sense that the server would be able to communicate player positions more effectively; perhaps the relief of lower processor demand will diminish the unacceptable lag that plagues this game.
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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VAHZZ
Liquid.Hound
3
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Posted - 2015.06.20 23:53:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:Honestly this game was at its best in chrome, but any changes to strafe im all for. Hate it when mk.0s start doing salsa in front of me. I dont know how to dance!!!
And they are just showing off with their wiggly hips. Those bitches...
GÖ¢ Soon, we shall meet again, in a galaxy far, far away. GÖ¢
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC.
RUST415
284
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:12:00 -
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The ones that this IS going to affect is minmatar and scouts whose ridiculous strafe speed register not dmg even though you clearly get hit markers sSOOOOOO YEAH **** that nerf the hell outta it. Why min get a movement speed buff to all of there suits when no other suit grts this kinda bonus is beyond comprehension. Ohh n to those sayimg its because they have less health its not a valid excuse
FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC.
RUST415
284
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:13:00 -
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That bein saidrunning speed is another story running speed not the issue
FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
679
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:15:00 -
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I'm for it.
I remember someone getting the drop on me and leaving me with around 50 armor on either my MinASS, or AmASS. I ended up strafing through the ACR, and I think standard SMG. I felt bad for him after I killed him.
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:15:00 -
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Any game in which strafing out in the open to dodge bullets instead of taking cover properly needs some looking into. Wiggle dancing is by far one of the most irritating aspects of Dust.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:26:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Joel II X wrote:I'd wait to see how it goes before pulling off a bitchin'. CCP Rattati wrote:Dust 514 is a tactical shooter. With these changes, perhaps we'll actually have to think before engaging a target and use "l3g1t taktix". Get ready for everyone in fu@#in u jumpy fits ...
Unlike strafers, they sacrifice slots
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
231
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:35:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Joel II X wrote:I'd wait to see how it goes before pulling off a bitchin'. CCP Rattati wrote:Dust 514 is a tactical shooter. With these changes, perhaps we'll actually have to think before engaging a target and use "l3g1t taktix". Get ready for everyone in fu@#in u jumpy fits ... Unlike strafers, they sacrifice slots
*insert Dr. Evil meme* Sacrifice...
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1
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Posted - 2015.06.21 00:51:00 -
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Too late! Hahahahah. Welcome to Dust!
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 
Seriously now, please read CCP Rattati's status update in this forum section. You will be disappointed. Others, less so.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Loyal Glasses
G.L.O.R.Y
75
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Posted - 2015.06.21 01:44:00 -
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CCP PLEASE **** WITH STRAFFING and lower over all Damage and DPS on all weapons.
Glasses of the Loyal Variety
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"The dead are notoriously unproductive "
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.21 02:01:00 -
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We should have the highest strafe speed the game can reliably handle, because at that point these no glitching, everything comes down to player v. player skill.
As we pickup frame rate from improvements to the game, strafe speed should be adjusted back up - this game feels clunky enough as it is.
Anybody claiming strafing isn't a skill in a reliable hit-detection game is full of kittenshit.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
717
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Posted - 2015.06.21 02:17:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:We should have the highest strafe speed the game can reliably handle, because at that point these no glitching, everything comes down to player v. player skill.
As we pickup frame rate from improvements to the game, strafe speed should be adjusted back up - this game feels clunky enough as it is.
Anybody claiming strafing isn't a skill in a reliable hit-detection game is full of kittenshit.
Strafing is fine but what we have here in dust is not strafing,it's dance dance revolution featuring the aim assist expansion pack. To be able to change direction without slowing down is what broke strafing in dust
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.21 02:29:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:We should have the highest strafe speed the game can reliably handle, because at that point these no glitching, everything comes down to player v. player skill.
As we pickup frame rate from improvements to the game, strafe speed should be adjusted back up - this game feels clunky enough as it is.
Anybody claiming strafing isn't a skill in a reliable hit-detection game is full of kittenshit. Strafing is fine but what we have here in dust is not strafing,it's dance dance revolution featuring the aim assist expansion pack. To be able to change direction without slowing down is what broke strafing in dust
This is one of the reasons i want to see AA toned down by 50% when we get the strafe reduction.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Raven-747
WarRavens
50
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Posted - 2015.06.21 03:30:00 -
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If strafe was to be nerfed this game would turn to a shoot fest. Like see each other believe in your dps and unload while standing there.
You can complain all you want about lasers. Despite the nerfs it will rip you to shreds.
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Loyal Glasses
G.L.O.R.Y
75
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Posted - 2015.06.21 03:37:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:If strafe was to be nerfed this game would turn to a shoot fest. Like see each other believe in your dps and unload while standing there.
We would actually start using cover.
Glasses of the Loyal Variety
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"The dead are notoriously unproductive "
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.06.21 04:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I could take it or leave it. I liked the way Dust 514 played back in Closed Beta before strafe speeds became what they are now, so it'll be a welcome change for the nostalgia purposes at least. Although, I'm concerned about how the game will stand as far as balance because all of our balance efforts up to this point were designed with the current strafe speed.
Assault HMG for instance is considered to be poor for anti-infantry uses because of the strafe speeds but when it gets hit the Assault HMG might find a new found purpose in the anti-infantry game.
Agreed. It'll be nice to have the gameplay be a bit less about who can flip Left-Stick back and forth the fastest.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
98
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Posted - 2015.06.21 04:14:00 -
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Deputy ReGnUM wrote:Heracles Porsche wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLZaECrqHI0
basically begging CCP Rattati not to **** with our strafing. I thought I had read that wrong, but just reread the status update so ya he seems pretty intent on it. so I'm resorting to begging.
there are a healthy handful of cursewords in the above video, but since this is an fps community I doubt there is anyone majorly sensitive about it.
Basically, up till now I have never attempted to force any kind of interaction with the devs, but messing with strafe speed just feels like it could be VERY BAD FOR THIS GAME so I have made this tiny attempt to keep this game from going to boogers.
I have always felt (intuitevely) that there was some kind of wall seperating dust youtubers from devs, but I hoping I imagined it cause I really want to reach out this time. Regardless, I welcome feedback from everyone who wants to add it.
Other then that, hope you've enjoyed my video, and everyone have a fantastic day. It is very bad. Its a double wammy; base speed nerf + Strafe speed nerf is not good . Too much too fast
Ya, everyone that is about to see a hit to there KDR should be tracked and if it is a change in their statistical KDR history-then that player should get a huge blinking * next to their name identifying them as a serial lagger.
Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.06.21 05:27:00 -
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Loyal Glasses wrote:Raven-747 wrote:If strafe was to be nerfed this game would turn to a shoot fest. Like see each other believe in your dps and unload while standing there. We would actually start using cover.
People actually do use cover.....we'll just see more camping now and less aggression.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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