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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.12 22:48:00 -
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The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context
438
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Posted - 2015.06.12 22:59:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:03:00 -
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I love this game, but I hope they wait to advertise until UX is in better shape.
I'm envisioning a future Dust with low-security, post-academy cooperative contracts focused on clearing areas of drones. A future Dust with a solo playmode where casuals can fight against other casuals to grind out Isk and SP. A future Dust where highly competitive, large squads favor competitive contracts over stomping pubs. A future Dust where established corps would seek out and recruit new players with promise.
I love this game, and I think it has enormous potential; more potential than any shooter I've ever played. But I don't believe that this game in its present state is capable of retaining players. In my opinion, money spent on advertising at this stage would be money wasted. There's still too much work to do.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:10:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination.
then the public backlash against the game would live on in legend.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
832
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:28:00 -
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It is highly opinionated that they would stay. I believe that the role playing casual shooting types would stay.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
899
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Posted - 2015.06.12 23:42:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:It is highly opinionated that they would stay. I believe that the role playing casual shooting types would stay.
Any Casual Shooting type person picking this game up and trying to play would likely ragequit in two days. There were a couple videos posted a while back on some people trying dust for the first time. The agony is real.
They need to have true PVE to allow players to get used to the game. They need a true tutorial to give players a basic overview of suits/weapons/modules/equipment. They need something as simple as a shooting range to allow players to test different weapons against stationary and mobile targets.
Without this, people will come into the game, get stomped, realize this isn't your casual FPS, and go back to BF or COD.
Like Adipem said, this game in it's current state simply isn't friendly to new players.
Once all of that is done (and likely a port to a new system), then yes, advertise the heck out of it and get the word out there. This game needs some new blood and new players to keep it alive and kicking.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
739
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:08:00 -
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On release we started to have nice advertising. We had cool cg videos, like EvE! It was sweet, and had an influx of player base
Shields, the silent killer.
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:11:00 -
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They talked about being able to board ships eve/L that would be pretty amazing to be hired by a commander in eve to storm or defend someones ship.
Fast 6/1 - 6/30 Life$
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:11:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. Didn't you quit a couple months back? |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:18:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:It is highly opinionated that they would stay. I believe that the role playing casual shooting types would stay. Why would a newbro stay today? I arrived in Chromosome; I stayed because:
* Newbros could actually outplay and kill vets in Chromosome * Stomps and lopsided fights happened, but they were a rarity and far less severe than today's * There was no such thing as a PC-rich class who could afford to protostomp all day, every day * By my 3rd week of play, I'd received recruitment invitations by 3+ different corps. * My corpmates demonstrated a sincere interest in my development path as a new player
When I arrived, Dust was a different game than it is today. If I had arrived today, I wouldn't haven't lasted two weeks. No new player in his right mind wants to be fodder and entertainment for an elite class who he will never catch up to, who he will never be as rich as, and who want absolutely nothing to do with him apart from farming him day in and day out.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
833
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:53:00 -
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When I joined dust I got killed to dual core flay locks and contact core locus grenades. The game was just released. It's better than its ever been. Ever.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
833
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Posted - 2015.06.13 00:56:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. Didn't you quit a couple months back?
No I've played off and on for a long time. Job stuff.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:25:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:When I joined dust I got killed to dual core flay locks and contact core locus grenades. The game was just released. It's better than its ever been. Ever. The game is far better now that it was at any point during Uprising, and it's getting better with each and every update. But I believe there's still critical work to be done on the NPE front, and I believe that work should be done before we attempt to lure new players.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
834
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:33:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:When I joined dust I got killed to dual core flay locks and contact core locus grenades. The game was just released. It's better than its ever been. Ever. The game is far better now that it was at any point during Uprising, and it's getting better with each and every update. But I believe there's still critical work to be done on the NPE front, and I believe that work should be done before we attempt to lure new players.
Just advertise though.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:36:00 -
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rather spend on fixing the game.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:37:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:When I joined dust I got killed to dual core flay locks and contact core locus grenades. The game was just released. It's better than its ever been. Ever. The game is far better now that it was at any point during Uprising, and it's getting better with each and every update. But I believe there's still critical work to be done on the NPE front, and I believe that work should be done before we attempt to lure new players. Just advertise though.
Put a Jet or a Drone in that ad, and see all the vets who've come and gone come running back to check it out :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw&feature=player_detailpage#t=339s
^ Footage courtesy of Kaeru's digging.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:rather spend on fixing the game.
Drinks the coolaid*
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:rather spend on fixing the game. Completely agree. I do not want this game to have a bad second impression. Everything must be polished first. The ps3 release just showed how harsh people react to a game that does not work properly. 9k online to 5k in less than a month or two after uprising release. Right now the devs are doing pretty good on opening their horizons by selling skins and allowing trading to see how things flow. Which is great and all but i do not expect many people to spend 10 dollars on a skin while other games sell their visuals at 7 dollars or less. I just hope to god that they never ever put p2w weapons or suits. |
Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:51:00 -
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Get the game ready then will you advertise?
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
739
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Posted - 2015.06.13 01:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:rather spend on fixing the game.
Yeah, technically this is the right answer. However, there is the part that the game will constantly be worked on, and needs new players (new player money, which would help to fund the game) to get the game fixed. Regardless, I still believe PvE needs to be implemented, not only for newbros, but also for fun. Back to the topic, it's a chicken or the egg type of a situation
Shields, the silent killer.
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:12:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first
It need's PvE not a ps4 port. God I hear this all the time, if CCP thought this was the way to go, they would have probably mentioned it somewhere or other.
This game also need's multiple fixes, greater weapon customisation (damage mod's are the only things that count), better balancing's and rebalancing's between shield's and armor, and weapon's all together, alot need's to be done. No insta port to ps4 is gonna fix everything.
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
836
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:18:00 -
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So I like the pve ideas and the smoothing why not advertise though?
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:22:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:So I like the pve ideas and the smoothing why not advertise though?
Because the PvP game modes are full of stomper's, NPE has yet to be perfected, and overall, laggy map's and hit detection is currently outclassed by other game's, until all those have been met (PVP will always have stompers, thats what PVE is meant for, a mean's to help NPE and players not good at competitive franchises to get SP and enjoy the game).
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
836
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:23:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:So I like the pve ideas and the smoothing why not advertise though? Because the PvP game modes are full of stomper's, NPE has yet to be perfected, and overall, laggy map's and hit detection is currently outclassed by other game's, until all those have been met (PVP will always have stompers, thats what PVE is meant for, a mean's to help NPE and players not good at competitive franchises to get SP and enjoy the game).
Highest priority that hasn't happened?
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:24:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first It need's PvE not a ps4 port. God I hear this all the time, if CCP thought this was the way to go, they would have probably mentioned it somewhere or other. This game also need's multiple fixes, greater weapon customisation (damage mod's are the only things that count), better balancing's and rebalancing's between shield's and armor, and weapon's all together, alot need's to be done. No insta port to ps4 is gonna fix everything. The majority of things could potentially be done with the port. The PS3 has only a few years left and we should be glad that Sony is one of the big 3 that actually supports their past consoles. CCP has only a handful working on DUST it is their first PS3 game and FPS. The PS4 is currently the big thing right now and has similar architecture to the PC. I would say the PS4 might even outsell the PS2(all time best selling comsole). Just bits of information I'm through information here but now my point is to not port it but recreate it, not under the name of DUST or Legion but something new but same concept. It has to be done right the first time, consumers are tired of buying unfinished games and I'm sure they won't bother with a f2p game that still has missing g content after 2 plus years.
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
77
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Posted - 2015.06.13 02:30:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Zan Azikuchi wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first It need's PvE not a ps4 port. God I hear this all the time, if CCP thought this was the way to go, they would have probably mentioned it somewhere or other. This game also need's multiple fixes, greater weapon customisation (damage mod's are the only things that count), better balancing's and rebalancing's between shield's and armor, and weapon's all together, alot need's to be done. No insta port to ps4 is gonna fix everything. The majority of things could potentially be done with the port. The PS3 has only a few years left and we should be glad that Sony is one of the big 3 that actually supports their past consoles. CCP has only a handful working on DUST it is their first PS3 game and FPS. The PS4 is currently the big thing right now and has similar architecture to the PC. I would say the PS4 might even outsell the PS2(all time best selling console). Just bits of information I'm through information here but now my point is to not port it but recreate it, not under the name of DUST or Legion but something new but same concept. It has to be done right the first time, consumers are tired of buying unfinished games and I'm sure they won't bother with a f2p game that still has missing g content after 2 plus years.
Ehh, yeah I'd definitely play it then, but, their working on valkyrie, (which can be part of their title on ps4) I'm just not on the band wagon with ps4, everything getting ported, and it seem's like only few game's are actually good (but kind of boring to play) on the ps4. I just want to see what we could pull out of the Ps3 a little more before going *thump* "It's dead jim".
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
384
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:01:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first It need's PvE not a ps4 port. God I hear this all the time, if CCP thought this was the way to go, they would have probably mentioned it somewhere or other. This game also need's multiple fixes, greater weapon customisation (damage mod's are the only things that count), better balancing's and rebalancing's between shield's and armor, and weapon's all together, alot need's to be done. No insta port to ps4 is gonna fix everything.
Going to need Sony to do a hardware update for the PS3 without the port. |
Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
838
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:52:00 -
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I just believe dust could sustain some new players at this point. Reason being it is in good shape. Lots of content and customization. I think we could hold more than we did in the first place for sure.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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Grease Spillett
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
838
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:55:00 -
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Also I have notice in low sp squads the game is not the same high level players all the time. I joined a squad of less than 1 mil sp players. It was surreal no cheap tactics a game I could actually see growing brand new players. Whether you know it or not the devs new matchmaking system is good for new guys.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
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The Attorney General
2
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Posted - 2015.06.13 05:34:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination.
Stop drinking the kool aid.
The controls are subpar.
The graphics are meh at best.
The client performance is absolutely terrible.
You couldn't advertise this game without lying your ass off.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
385
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Posted - 2015.06.13 06:34:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:When I joined dust I got killed to dual core flay locks and contact core locus grenades. The game was just released. It's better than its ever been. Ever. The game is far better now that it was at any point during Uprising, and it's getting better with each and every update. But I believe there's still critical work to be done on the NPE front, and I believe that work should be done before we attempt to lure new players. Just advertise though. Put a Jet or a Drone in that ad, and see all the vets who've come and gone come running back to check it out :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw&feature=player_detailpage#t=339s^ Footage courtesy of Kaeru's digging.
When will this game be released ccp?
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:17:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination.
hell noooo
game is full of bugs, lag, more bugs and laaaag thin on any meaningfull content, next to nothing in new content updates |
Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:20:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. Stop drinking the kool aid. The controls are subpar. The graphics are meh at best. The client performance is absolutely terrible. You couldn't advertise this game without lying your ass off.
agreed
dust 514 is a subpar game in every +írea that reflects on the ccp dev team that were unable to properly cr+¬ate a game
ccp added lack of expertise in a shooter to a bad choice of the cheaper the better when developing game code |
benandjerrys
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
151
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:22:00 -
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Reigniting the eve to dust interactions with more kickbacks to boost the eve community needs to happen. Make dust fotm for eve isk generation.
Tread Locking Proficiency V
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.14 10:55:00 -
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Grease your comparison to chromosome is irrelevant.
There was a total wipe of SP and assets at the beginning of that test build.
There wasn't over a year of continuous active and omega booster buildup over the course of that build.
All of your points are negated by the existence of current SP levels versus chrome where most beta players capped out between 15 and 20 mil.
There were also 4 man squads, and q-syncing was a lot harder.
And scrambler rifles didn't exist (CHEAPSHOT) to make calassaults instantly die.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Powerh8er
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
820
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:01:00 -
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I remember starting playing on a regular basis right after uprising and skilled promptly into HMGs only to find myself constantly victimized by tac AR wielding CK.0 logis. The game is generally more balanced and the newberries have a few more tools to help em out now.
Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
652
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:10:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination. A port to PS4 would be required first
more people have ps3's than ps4's, so its still a larger target audience, granted being on the ps4 is a promise of the game continuing into the future, but its not like everyone with a ps3 threw theirs out and got a ps4. There are probably people who have never had a ps4 before and are finally getting one because its less expensive now, and those people should be considered as potential targets for the game as much as anyone else. |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:19:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:The American public will flock to this game if you get a commercial on. Even a YouTube video. I think the game is decent enough now to hold players and grab their imagination.
That's also something the community can do. That's why those "This is Dust" videos are so great
Hypothetical CPM Platform
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VikingKong iBUN
0uter.Heaven
413
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:26:00 -
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To me it looks as if they're actually trying to ruin Dust as much as possible, so that the playerbase gets small enough for them to justify simply shutting the game down. Let's just face it guys - CCP obviously do not want to continue making Dust any more, clearly they aren't advertising because they don't want more players.
I would like a Gallente SMG.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:35:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:To me it looks as if they're actually trying to ruin Dust as much as possible, so that the playerbase gets small enough for them to justify simply shutting the game down. Let's just face it guys - CCP obviously do not want to continue making Dust any more, clearly they aren't advertising because they don't want more players.
Before you get too excited over the issue, exactly how many EVE online TV spots have you seen?
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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