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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:15:00 -
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Seriously, I mean just a console that runs only 3 games, Project Legion/Dust Valkyrie and EvE online. Doesn't need to be expensive, can use joypad and keyboard, whatever.
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:27:00 -
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I would be set for life with such a console :)
Vote Dust for PS4
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:31:00 -
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That's a great idea, but what would we call it? CCP1?
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:32:00 -
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Why people don't make own rocket-ship?
Let's make one step more. Let we make own stargate!
Not much time left...
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
905
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:49:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Why people don't make own rocket-ship?
Let's make one step more. Let we make own stargate!
Not quite dear
Vote Dust for PS4
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:49:00 -
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AlienWare is making a Steam Console, playing computer games on a console, with a controller specifically made for it. It only plays steam games, so if DUST gets ported to PC and is set on Steam, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. Boom, PS4 just became ******* irrelevant.
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
105
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Posted - 2015.06.05 10:55:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a Steam Console, playing computer games on a console, with a controller specifically made for it. It only plays steam games, so if DUST gets ported to PC and is set on Steam, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. Boom, PS4 just became ******* irrelevant.
eh?
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Akamandon
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:19:00 -
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Ummm no, like seriously no that's dumb how the hell would that attract new players to the game? |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:35:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a Steam Console, playing computer games on a console, with a controller specifically made for it. It only plays steam games, so if DUST gets ported to PC and is set on Steam, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. Boom, PS4 just became ******* irrelevant.
the alienware computer is not a console. it is a regular PC with cramped peripherals and SteamOS as operating system. you could aswell install windows on it and do work. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:36:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a Steam Console, playing computer games on a console, with a controller specifically made for it. It only plays steam games, so if DUST gets ported to PC and is set on Steam, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. Boom, PS4 just became ******* irrelevant. eh? He just re-posted his own post from his own thread. Without even Quoting it.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
304
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Posted - 2015.06.05 12:08:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:That's a great idea, but what would we call it? CCP1? "Working as intended" or "xCCP Station 720" better the first
H0riz0n Unlimit alt - Nexus Balusa Horizon -> RND -> I.H. -> DMG!
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.05 12:24:00 -
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I don't think you realize the work and money that would have to go into this. An entire console? For just three games? For its comparably miniscule audience?
Not only would they have to purchase or rent out a factory to produce the console, they would need to purchase and have programmed machinery to put together the console itself, not to mention renovate the place from whatever it was being used for previously. And it's not like they could just immediately repurpose the machinery that's already there. Even machines made specifically to produce a game console would need to be very carefully adjusted to be able to produce this very specific console. They would have to go through several testing phases and periods of production and prototypes to settle on something appealing and workable, hiring professionals to design a blueprint for this new machine ('cus I'm pretty sure no one at CCP knows how to make a blueprint), not to mention having to completely create, from the ground up, workable code for this new console that won't be easily hi-jacked and ruined from end-users tinkering with it. Workers would need to be hired to staff the factory and oversee production, with workers and management on varying pay scales. Shipping and distribution costs, fees to sell at specific locations (unless you expect them to sell all this from their site?), and taxes and varying take-aways for selling at specific locations.
And then once they have a physical product to work with? One they're happy with and feel like would be a serviceable machine? Recoding each individual game it to even work on this new console. We wouldn't be able to just port Dust 514 as it is over to an entirely new console. And I mean entirely new, not just over to the XBone, PC, or even PS4. Code relating to the PS3 would need to be stripped, replaced with newly written code to interact with the new console's interface, its personal code, and presumably button layout (though with the exception of Nintendo, most game companies seem to have settled on what an ideal controller should look like).
It doesn't need to be expensive? For the time, effort, and money it would take to produce this console and port the games over to it you could very easily just remake Dust 514 and be far in the green compared to what it would take to produce and distribute an entirely new gaming console with functionality for only three games. It would have to be both expensive and widely popular to even come close to covering the losses. And I haven't even covered half the **** they would have to go through for a new console.
Come on, man. I hope you're joking here. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
740
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:03:00 -
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Whoa, that wall of text bro.
But um, OP, you're somewhat funny but not that funny. 3/10
Saying what's on people's minds
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
106
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:24:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:I don't think you realize the work and money that would have to go into this. An entire console? For just three games? For its comparably miniscule audience?
Not only would they have to purchase or rent out a factory to produce the console, they would need to purchase and have programmed machinery to put together the console itself, not to mention renovate the place from whatever it was being used for previously. And it's not like they could just immediately repurpose the machinery that's already there. Even machines made specifically to produce a game console would need to be very carefully adjusted to be able to produce this very specific console. They would have to go through several testing phases and periods of production and prototypes to settle on something appealing and workable, hiring professionals to design a blueprint for this new machine ('cus I'm pretty sure no one at CCP knows how to make a blueprint), not to mention having to completely create, from the ground up, workable code for this new console that won't be easily hi-jacked and ruined from end-users tinkering with it. Workers would need to be hired to staff the factory and oversee production, with workers and management on varying pay scales. Shipping and distribution costs, fees to sell at specific locations (unless you expect them to sell all this from their site?), and taxes and varying take-aways for selling at specific locations.
And then once they have a physical product to work with? One they're happy with and feel like would be a serviceable machine? Recoding each individual game it to even work on this new console. We wouldn't be able to just port Dust 514 as it is over to an entirely new console. And I mean entirely new, not just over to the XBone, PC, or even PS4. Code relating to the PS3 would need to be stripped, replaced with newly written code to interact with the new console's interface, its personal code, and presumably button layout (though with the exception of Nintendo, most game companies seem to have settled on what an ideal controller should look like).
It doesn't need to be expensive? For the time, effort, and money it would take to produce this console and port the games over to it you could very easily just remake Dust 514 and be far in the green compared to what it would take to produce and distribute an entirely new gaming console with functionality for only three games. It would have to be both expensive and widely popular to even come close to covering the losses. And I haven't even covered half the **** they would have to go through for a new console.
Come on, man. I hope you're joking here.
Yea your right, I mean come on if its that hard why would anyone bother, like sega sony nintendo microsoft and even plug and play. Silly me
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
106
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:36:00 -
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I actually just read that, first off, what's the difference between renovation and refurbishment because for a start you would not go looking for a property that you going to use for this then feel the need to completely gut the place for reconstruction. There is so much wrong with that statement I don't know where else to even begin.
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.05 14:21:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:I actually just read that, first off, what's the difference between renovation and refurbishment because for a start you would not go looking for a property that you going to use for this then feel the need to completely gut the place for reconstruction. There is so much wrong with that statement I don't know where else to even begin. Since apparently you didn't read everything I wrote very carefully...
No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Even machines made specifically to produce a game console would need to be very carefully adjusted to be able to produce this very specific console. And since now I know you're actually serious about the console thing...
Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:Yea your right, I mean come on if its that hard why would anyone bother, like sega sony nintendo microsoft and even plug and play. Silly me Wanna know the difference between Sony, SEGA, Nintendo, Microsoft and CCP? Money, resources, and age.
Nintendo is old. God. Damn. Old. When they started their enterprise the materials they used to produce their games cost next to nothing. They literally chose some of the cheapest **** they could to make their systems because even at the time they couldn't afford anything else and didn't want to risk spending a lot of money on something they didn't know was going to be lucrative. And you know what? It was. It was incredibly lucrative. So lucrative, in fact, that they could even afford to undercut the prices of their competitors with later consoles and still make money. They've been in the business longer than anybody else you've listed and are still going strong. They are constantly growing, constantly getting richer. They are the biggest name in the gaming industry. Even without Pikachu they still have the name and the fame and the experience to outlast damn near anybody.
Sony? The PlayStation and its sequels exist because of Nintendo. The PlayStation came about because a partnership with Nintendo went south and their collaborative idea, a new console using CDs instead of cartridges, was instead used by Sony to create a console of their own. They were already given the idea and worked on it thoroughly with Nintendo, they already had plenty of funds because Sony wasn't ONLY a gaming company. All they had to do was release and see if it was worth it. And we've got a PS4 now.
Microsoft has the backing of a ******* billionaire with its fingers in a hell of a lot more things than just video games. Like the personal computer, for example. The other huge thing. Don't pretend they were risking anything when they made their console. I'm not even going to go into this one.
SEGA? Where is SEGA now? Tell me where all the SEGA consoles are. Please tell me where your next-gen SEGA console is. SEGA was crushed in the console market, and they had plenty of games to go around at the time. Several of them really, incredibly good. You could even say they had more great titles than Nintendo did at the time. Why'd they go out? They made some bad business decisions and they flat-lined near immediately. They don't a whole lot lately. Sonic is basically their lifeline.
CCP? CCP has none of those things. CCP is a no-name compared to these other companies you've listed. Even SEGA, who practically doesn't exist compared to Nintendo and Microsoft. What do you really think would happen if CCP, the no-name company with not nearly enough money to back something as incredibly risky as this and possibly considering just flat out dropping Dust 514 as it is... what do you really think would happen if they tried making a console for just three games with an incredibly small audience, especially compared to something like Pokemon. Would Nintendo make a whole new console specifically for Pokemon and Pokemon only? Hell no, even with all the money they've got. Dust 514 has even less players than the ******* Harvest Moon fanbase.
There. Is. No. Way. In. Hell. Making. A. New. Console. Is. A. Sound. Marketing. Ploy. For. C.C.P. |
deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 14:58:00 -
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I can imagine a CCP console over heating and burning houses down. |
1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:31:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Why people don't make own rocket-ship?
Let's make one step more. Let we make own stargate!
I want a Stargate. Also a Morpher.
I'm ScReWeD uP
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:34:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:Doesn't need to be expensive Kinda needs to run the games though doesn't it?
Which is gonna cost more than it's worth for 3 games... |
Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
347
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:36:00 -
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Fun Game: to make something difficult sound easy, try adding the word "just" to the sentence. |
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:18:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:I actually just read that, first off, what's the difference between renovation and refurbishment because for a start you would not go looking for a property that you going to use for this then feel the need to completely gut the place for reconstruction. There is so much wrong with that statement I don't know where else to even begin. Since apparently you didn't read everything I wrote very carefully... No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Even machines made specifically to produce a game console would need to be very carefully adjusted to be able to produce this very specific console. And since now I know you're actually serious about the console thing... Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:Yea your right, I mean come on if its that hard why would anyone bother, like sega sony nintendo microsoft and even plug and play. Silly me Wanna know the difference between Sony, SEGA, Nintendo, Microsoft and CCP? Money, resources, and age. Nintendo is old. God. Damn. Old. When they started their enterprise the materials they used to produce their games cost next to nothing. They literally chose some of the cheapest **** they could to make their systems because even at the time they couldn't afford anything else and didn't want to risk spending a lot of money on something they didn't know was going to be lucrative. And you know what? It was. It was incredibly lucrative. So lucrative, in fact, that they could even afford to undercut the prices of their competitors with later consoles and still make money. They've been in the business longer than anybody else you've listed and are still going strong. They are constantly growing, constantly getting richer. They are the biggest name in the gaming industry. Even without Pikachu they still have the name and the fame and the experience to outlast damn near anybody. Sony? The PlayStation and its sequels exist because of Nintendo. The PlayStation came about because a partnership with Nintendo went south and their collaborative idea, a new console using CDs instead of cartridges, was instead used by Sony to create a console of their own. They were already given the idea and worked on it thoroughly with Nintendo, they already had plenty of funds because Sony wasn't ONLY a gaming company. All they had to do was release and see if it was worth it. And we've got a PS4 now. Microsoft has the backing of a ******* billionaire with its fingers in a hell of a lot more things than just video games. Like the personal computer, for example. The other huge thing. Don't pretend they were risking anything when they made their console. I'm not even going to go into this one. SEGA? Where is SEGA now? Tell me where all the SEGA consoles are. Please tell me where your next-gen SEGA console is. SEGA was crushed in the console market, and they had plenty of games to go around at the time. Several of them really, incredibly good. You could even say they had more great titles than Nintendo did at the time. Why'd they go out? They made some bad business decisions and they flat-lined near immediately. They don't a whole lot lately. Sonic is basically their lifeline. CCP? CCP has none of those things. CCP is a no-name compared to these other companies you've listed. Even SEGA, who practically doesn't exist compared to Nintendo and Microsoft. What do you really think would happen if CCP, the no-name company with not nearly enough money to back something as incredibly risky as this and possibly considering just flat out dropping Dust 514 as it is... what do you really think would happen if they tried making a console for just three games with an incredibly small audience, especially compared to something like Pokemon. Would Nintendo make a whole new console specifically for Pokemon and Pokemon only? Hell no, even with all the money they've got. Dust 514 has even less players than the ******* Harvest Moon fanbase. There. Is. No. Way. In. Hell. Making. A. New. Console. Is. A. Sound. Marketing. Ploy. For. C.C.P.
Ok so that's why, damn I just really want the game back to how is was community wise. Not enough people play Dust anymore, I know it may seem a daft question but in all honesty I really have zero idea about it so that's why I asked. And thanks for actually showing me a really good set of reasons why. Its just a shame were in the dark about the future of Dust.
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:54:00 -
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lol making a new console, are you mad? The market is allready saturated with the 3 big supplyiers which are:
-Sony -Microsoft -Nintendo
All 3 are mega corperations and have years of experience in hardware development while CCP throws out their cash onto game experiments outside of Eve: online. CCP might likes to pretend to be Dr. Frankenstein but they certainly dont have the cash to develop a new console.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:00:00 -
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honestly, it's impossible with the level of GPU they'll want to do the things they want doing...
plus, there coding in EvE is so bad at this point it's literally Impossible for them to port it anywhere, it's stuck on PC till CCP does a reexamination on there software and figure out wtf some of it does. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:27:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:honestly, it's impossible with the level of GPU they'll want to do the things they want doing...
plus, there coding in EvE is so bad at this point it's literally Impossible for them to port it anywhere, it's stuck on PC till CCP does a reexamination on there software and figure out wtf some of it does.
The three games are made in 3 different engines (lol WUT)
Building a system specific to Eve requirements would leave the total build cost somewhere around 800 dollars.
Building a system specific to running Oculus for Valkyrie would probably be around $1200 not counting the Oculus itself.
Building a system specific to Dust would require a few paper clips and some tin foil since it has already been built to run on the outdated as hell PS3.
At any of these price points the user would be much better off buying a prebuilt rig from someone else or even better off building their own. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:29:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Why people don't make own rocket-ship?
Let's make one step more. Let we make own stargate! You mean, people don't have one yet?
I have already colonized Europa. |
Oceltot Mortalis
84
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:33:00 -
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We could call it, "Console CCP"
AKA: "CCCP"
Aspiring Forum Warrior.
Commando Advocate / Gallente Advocate / Legion Advocate / Avocado Advocate
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 21:40:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Why people don't make own rocket-ship?
Let's make one step more. Let we make own stargate!
Rocket ships are.... actually becoming obsolete.
New systems are aerospace ground to orbit planes.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:25:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:Seriously, I mean just a console that runs only 3 games, Project Legion/Dust Valkyrie and EvE online. Doesn't need to be expensive, can use joypad and keyboard, whatever. Because spending several millions of real world cash units on it would be unlikely to product a net benefit for the corporation or its customers.
Past that it is quite the silly idea. Thanks for the laugh.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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