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Vrain Matari wrote:

THUNDERGROOVE wrote:

Vrain Matari wrote:

Interesting.

Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart.

'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart.

Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus.

The information comes from Market orders Vrain.

Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less.

Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it.

Agreed of course, but the primary variable is still what peeps are actually running, followed by the efficacy of that item. We've seen from Rattati's efficacy graphs for rifles and dropsuits that the numbers are relatively close in both those categories.

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Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 77	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:39:00 - [1] - Quote New FOTM Too funny! Good thing its "hardmode" or else everyone might start using it lol.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:45:00 - [2] - Quote Lol damn, I just bought 400 GEKs today during my Monthly supply replenishment Songs of Seraphim, Never Forget
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:46:00 - [3] - Quote Lol That thing will drop faster than a dubstep beat. Achura Bloodline Caldari Loyalist Join Caldari FW via Kirjuun Saaja
Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:53:00 - [4] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Lol That thing will drop faster than a dubstep beat. haha, maybe so but it sure seems like many of my friends have been specing into it recently and then to see the report was not surprised.
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:10:00 - [5] - Quote I forgot about that Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:11:00 - [6] - Quote Hold on what the ****. Everyone bitches about caldari suits, yet cal assaults are most popular by 5% Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
GeorgeN76 Eden Claims Corp 74	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:12:00 - [7] - Quote Even before the assault rifle buff, lol. Scouts and Swarms
2Berries Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote Funny, i stumbled across something similar last week. Starter frontline-CA with a duvolle & complex dmg mod. Clear shields in a heartbeat with the AR, polish them off with a militia bolt pistol. Meta lvl 13 & relatively cheap. Evening Boys, Hows the water?
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:31:00 - [9] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Hold on what the ****. Everyone bitches about caldari suits, yet cal assaults are most popular by 5% Typical beginners see a Caldari suit on PSN and pick it cuz it looks cool after DL'ing the game. Then they find out it's not meant for stand-and-deliver play. Selling Items Store - Player Trading
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2	Posted - 2015.06.04 23:05:00 - [10] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Hold on what the **. Everyone bitches about caldari suits, yet cal assaults are most popular by 5% Typical beginners see a Caldari suit on PSN and pick it cuz it looks cool after DL'ing the game. Then they find out it's not meant for stand-and-deliver play. So true. I love my Cal Assault. P;The Logician V;Turbulent R;Analylist: Intro 98% Intu 46% Thin 23% Pros 23% Turb 32% Ex 2% GET UP** Autistic Ninja

Jack the Rlpper TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context 196	Posted - 2015.06.04 23:29:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Lol damn, I just bought 400 GEKs today during my Monthly supply replenishment Should share all that beautiful Isk you have in your wallet with a fellow Gallente Warrior. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç
Kinky Fat Bastard OMFGZOMBIESRUN 17	Posted - 2015.06.05 00:10:00 - [12] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Hold on what the ****. Everyone bitches about caldari suits, yet cal assaults are most popular by 5% Cal assault and scout are easily the best looking suits in the game. Not the best. But the best looking.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.06.05 00:37:00 - [13] - Quote Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. PSN: RationalSpark
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy No Context 880	Posted - 2015.06.05 00:41:00 - [14] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. dont try to change that leve my rs90 alone I saw this coming Frame ck.0 with a Fed Duvolle Tac and Duvolle Specialist BS my only proto dropsuit command 5
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 257	Posted - 2015.06.05 04:12:00 - [15] - Quote I like the linked website. It shows what currently is being bought in mass. However, what is being bought a lot isn't necessarily the FOTM, it might just be what is dying in mass to the FOTM. The FOTM would be the one with the highest KDR and hence a relatively lower amount of purchases compared with the ones dying to it... My take on 514: Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.06.05 04:15:00 - [16] - Quote Old school FOTM xD "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 81	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:18:00 - [17] - Quote Venerable Phage wrote: I like the linked website. It shows what currently is being bought in mass. However, what is being bought a lot isn't necessarily the FOTM, it might just be what is dying in mass to the FOTM. The FOTM would be the one with the highest KDR and hence a relatively lower amount of purchases compared with the ones dying to it... you may be right, though it has been pretty spot on in the past.
The Eristic Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 02:14:00 - [18] - Quote http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.php Look at the historical graphs. There was clearly some kind of problem with data collection on a few things near the end of May, namely regarding the CR, RR and all dropsuits (though the effect is most visible for Assaults), which has skewed the Tryhardinator. The GEK does usually rank in the top 2-3, though, I would image due to the fact that many newer players default to the AR just because of the name. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 709	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:20:00 - [19] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Lol That thing will drop faster than a dubstep beat. Gross Shields, the silent killer.
demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 704	Posted - 2015.06.07 09:57:00 - [20] - Quote Petra 222 SoM wrote: New FOTM Too funny! Good thing its "hardmode" or else everyone might start using it lol. basically the same fit ive been using for the past 3 years since all we had were cal suits and gal weapons

Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 958	Posted - 2015.06.07 10:47:00 - [21] - Quote Dragonfly Caldari assault plus toxin AR still wrecks like it did in beta.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 11:04:00 - [22] - Quote This data doesn't show what's being used the most. It shows that people using these items are dying a lot. Thus the need to restock. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 83	Posted - 2015.06.07 17:13:00 - [23] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: This data doesn't show what's being used the most. It shows that people using these items are dying a lot. Thus the need to restock. hmm, was that the case when Minass topped the list? What about the Gal scout? I could be wrong but it seemed to show the most used suit in the past. Why now that it shows Calass is it wrong? I'm not saying whats balanced and not, just that its funny to see the data in spite of the new trend in complaints.
The Eristic Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 18:50:00 - [24] - Quote Petra 222 SoM wrote: I'm not saying whats balanced and not, just that its funny to see the data in spite of the new trend in complaints. Once again, look at the Historical Graphs section of the site. Tryhardinator is currently further away from accuracy than it would be normally due to some problems in data collection over the past couple weeks. It'll probably take a few more weeks before it becomes genuinely representative again. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 789	Posted - 2015.06.07 19:34:00 - [25] - Quote Petra 222 SoM wrote: New FOTM Too funny! Good thing its "hardmode" or else everyone might start using it lol. Did you buy 1000 Assault C/1s to make this happen?
sir RAVEN WING 3	Posted - 2015.06.07 20:54:00 - [26] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Petra 222 SoM wrote: New FOTM Too funny! Good thing its "hardmode" or else everyone might start using it lol. Did you buy 1000 Assault C/1s to make this happen? Pretty sure I have completely skewed this at 3261 Assault C/1s. Now just to wait for ADV trading to come out, free Assault C/1s to all the newberries. "He loved the game so as he gave his most famed co worker, Rattati unto New Eden. All praise lord Frame." - Shanghai 1:4
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 139	Posted - 2015.06.08 06:18:00 - [27] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Petra 222 SoM wrote: I'm not saying whats balanced and not, just that its funny to see the data in spite of the new trend in complaints. Once again, look at the Historical Graphs section of the site. Tryhardinator is currently further away from accuracy than it would be normally due to some problems in data collection over the past couple weeks. It'll probably take a few more weeks before it becomes genuinely representative again. It seems that data from CCP is bad for more than 24 hours, resulting in dust.thang storing the incorrect values long-term. Have fiddled a bit with the process, next run will go back 14 days (instead of just 1) to collect hopefully-correct data from CREST. After this, will to try keep it at +3 days, assuming CCP's export process will have correct data there.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.08 07:34:00 - [28] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. The information comes from Market orders Vrain. Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less. Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it. The enemies of God stand broken before us. The light of the Reclaiming shines over them! 12/13/14 Never forget
Edgar Reinhart Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2015.06.08 10:39:00 - [29] - Quote Noticed this over the weekend too. Only last week it was Min Assaults and Combat Rifles across the board. Anything to do with the migration of Q-Syncs to Cal-FW? As someone in a starter suit just beginning to run Gal-FW I certainly felt the pain this weekend. Think I was on the winning side for about 1 in 10 and yes I did end up AFKing because I was so fed up of being one shotted by Kaalakiota Bolt Pistols. I know I know squad up git good etc etc etc.
Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 85	Posted - 2015.06.08 11:23:00 - [30] - Quote Look at the large corps and the fits they have migrated too. Its cal ass. Even certain ethnic corps famed by their Minass spam have converted to Calass. Is it just coincidence? or has the large group chasing the new fotm jumped on the bandwagon to "fix sheilds" in their favor. Seems all to familiar, but what do i know, i am just a casual scrub.

G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2015.06.09 09:53:00 - [31] - Quote Applied work-around, seems to work but means processing is a bit slower. TryHardinator uses last 10 days' worth of data, so may be a bit slow to reflect certain types of changes. Last 24-48 hours of data from CCP seems to be b0rked at times, so precision can be "questionable" at times, but the 10-days data-set limits this to less-than-10% uncertainty. Dust.Thang only updates at irregular intervals, which can impact results - usually best to review early in the week.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.06.09 16:19:00 - [32] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. The information comes from Market orders Vrain. Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less. Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it. Agreed of course, but the primary variable is still what peeps are actually running, followed by the efficacy of that item. We've seen from Rattati's efficacy graphs for rifles and dropsuits that the numbers are relatively close in both those categories. PSN: RationalSpark
Petra 222 SoM Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 86	Posted - 2015.06.09 17:26:00 - [33] - Quote Aww damn, looks like the sky isn't falling after all. Had to be fixed so soon to spoil the fun
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:59:00 - [34] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. The information comes from Market orders Vrain. Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less. Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it. Agreed of course, but the primary variable is still what peeps are actually running, followed by the efficacy of that item. We've seen from Rattati's efficacy graphs for rifles and dropsuits that the numbers are relatively close in both those categories. Might I suggest to ask CCP Ratatti, CCP Frame, and CCP FoxFour for additional data via CREST covering e.g. daily Kills-per-Spawn-In (K/S)? At the very least, it would save Ratatti from having to run various extracts manually


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