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Joel II X wrote:

maybe deadcatz wrote:

iKILLu osborne wrote:

maybe deadcatz wrote:

A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps.

It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans....

Well tough luck I guess. Scouts are barely alive at this point with the cloak Nerf so let the scanner take a little Nerf. If anything a logi devoted to scans is pointless 2 scanners is enough to perma scan everyone on the opposite side of the planet.

So, every logi should only be limited to one equipment of its kind, then?

That would result in every logi carrying Uplink, Nanohive, needle, scanner. Maybe a few randoms with REs instead of a needle or something.

Scanners don't even gain any points from people outside their squad (and God forbid he doesn't have one). It really is a thankless job.

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maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 11	Posted - 2015.06.01 10:54:00 - [1] - Quote A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps.
iKILLu osborne T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 789	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:11:00 - [2] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps. It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans.... (n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs Retired 62mil sp, z platoon vet, og shotty
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 14	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:21:00 - [3] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps. It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans.... Well tough luck I guess. Scouts are barely alive at this point with the cloak Nerf so let the scanner take a little Nerf. If anything a logi devoted to scans is pointless 2 scanners is enough to perma scan everyone on the opposite side of the planet.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:37:00 - [4] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps. It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans.... Well tough luck I guess. Scouts are barely alive at this point with the cloak Nerf so let the scanner take a little Nerf. If anything a logi devoted to scans is pointless 2 scanners is enough to perma scan everyone on the opposite side of the planet. So, every logi should only be limited to one equipment of its kind, then? That would result in every logi carrying Uplink, Nanohive, needle, scanner. Maybe a few randoms with REs instead of a needle or something. Scanners don't even gain any points from people outside their squad (and God forbid he doesn't have one). It really is a thankless job.
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 14	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:46:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps. It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans.... Well tough luck I guess. Scouts are barely alive at this point with the cloak Nerf so let the scanner take a little Nerf. If anything a logi devoted to scans is pointless 2 scanners is enough to perma scan everyone on the opposite side of the planet. So, every logi should only be limited to one equipment of its kind, then? That would result in every logi carrying Uplink, Nanohive, needle, scanner. Maybe a few randoms with REs instead of a needle or something. Scanners don't even gain any points from people outside their squad (and God forbid he doesn't have one). It really is a thankless job. Its a thankless job alright. Its a job that really kills peoples morale. At least with my amar scout suit fit I can get in and gun the logo down and make me feel better and him a little more afraid to bring out that damn thing.
Yeeeuuuupppp No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:46:00 - [6] - Quote Well see, the thing about scouts........... *I'll boop you with a plasma Cannon* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 14	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:49:00 - [7] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:56:00 - [8] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners.
Regnier Feros Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 382	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:59:00 - [9] - Quote Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners. 2 CPX damps bring me down to 18 DB ^-^ ZariaOwnsWhips
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 14	Posted - 2015.06.01 12:03:00 - [10] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners. 2 CPX damps bring me down to 18 DB ^-^ 3 low slots that I reserve exclusivly for low sprint speed,and poor armour rep on a high armour suit.

Haerr The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 12:21:00 - [11] - Quote The WP gain for scanners compared to other equipment is really bad. We should get intel kill assist WPs for the entire team and not just from the players in squad! KUNG FURY - By Laser Unicorns
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.06.01 12:23:00 - [12] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners. 2 CPX damps bring me down to 18 DB ^-^ Even better.
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 555	Posted - 2015.06.01 12:31:00 - [13] - Quote lol. you get scanned when your a scout?/ you must be a ** fit scout to be scanned. my gall scout only runs 2 complex damps and I never get scanned. if I do get spotted by a gal logi running duvolle focused (rarely) I switch to trip damps. or if I REALLY want to make sure there is no possible way to be scanned I use quad complex damps. cause guess what.... profile dampeners don't stack. Elite Gallenten Soldier**
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 13:13:00 - [14] - Quote Haerr wrote: The WP gain for scanners compared to other equipment is really bad. We should get intel kill assist WPs for the entire team and not just from the players in squad! Your scans shouldn't even be shown to the whole team. XD The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Haerr The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 13:20:00 - [15] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Haerr wrote: The WP gain for scanners compared to other equipment is really bad. We should get intel kill assist WPs for the entire team and not just from the players in squad! Your scans shouldn't even be shown to the whole team. XD But but but all the other equipments are allowed to benefit anyone on the team! If scanners should be squad only then so should drop uplinks, nanite injectors, nano hives, repair tools, and remote explosives! Or they should only give WPs if they are used on squad member. Jumping is Strafing UP
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 13:23:00 - [16] - Quote Agrees with only one scanner per suit. XD Scans should only be visible to squad. Intel assist points should be increased. Scans should only show a red dot for all suits instead of the directional arrow for new frames. Maybe have 1 low tier variant for newbies that scans for whole team but has a high db or super short visibility time. Wouldn't really mind if most had snap shots of the area u scanned instead of time they currently do. The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 811	Posted - 2015.06.01 13:37:00 - [17] - Quote You have the tools to counter scanners. So, stop being a scrub. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 13:43:00 - [18] - Quote Haerr wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Haerr wrote: The WP gain for scanners compared to other equipment is really bad. We should get intel kill assist WPs for the entire team and not just from the players in squad! Your scans shouldn't even be shown to the whole team. XD But but but all the other equipments are allowed to benefit anyone on the team! If scanners should be squad only then so should drop uplinks, nanite injectors, nano hives, repair tools, and remote explosives! Or they should only give WPs if they are used on squad member. They have already showed they can have the scan only benefit the squad. Don't know of they can pull it off with the other eq.Wouldn't want them to try ether for fear of screwing something else up. XD See scans as more of a luxury than the pieces of eq also. Um I guess having remotes only work on squad mates would make fw more interesting The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Barb Wilson Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.06.01 14:03:00 - [19] - Quote Scouts have abysmal HP compared to Assaults and Assaults can have close to the same speed/everything else better than a scout and still have more HP. The nerf to cloaks and passive scans really hurt the utility of scouts and made it next to impossible to run a viable fit. Scout should NOT have to put 2-3 dampeners on to get below scans, they should have to put on 1, scouts need mobility and that takes KinCats, they should have passive sight, but I can see how that can be OP. Scanners need some kind of nerf, I would like to see the range cut in half, and Gal bonus be to range, not to precision. Dampeners do in fact have stacking penalties, just not strictly speaking, because you are dealing with smaller and smaller numbers. A dampener helps a heavy more than a scout in terms of raw numbers, which I find odd, but that is the way it currently works.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.01 14:09:00 - [20] - Quote It's better to run sg assault than sg scout. You don't have to give a damn about scans (PC, town). In pubs.. take away scans from these players and they would drown themselfs in their tears. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline

Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 812	Posted - 2015.06.01 14:15:00 - [21] - Quote I only pull my scanners out after I get shotgunned or knifed in the back. What other counters, but scanners, is there against these cowards? There is none. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Oswald Rehnquist 1	Posted - 2015.06.01 15:26:00 - [22] - Quote Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners. The min assault can get below 21 with 3 damps as well, why is this limited to amarr scout? Below 28 dB
Patt MaCrotch Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 136	Posted - 2015.06.01 15:32:00 - [23] - Quote Scanners are working fine, leave them alone. If you don't want to damp up, then Git Guud! It's the natural flow of the game. When you confront an enemy and you beat them at straight up gun game what do they counter with? They b#tch up and call a tank or they run a p#ssy scout with R.E.'s and shotgun. How do you counter? A.V. or scans.
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 22	Posted - 2015.06.01 18:41:00 - [24] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Joel II X wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Well see, the thing about scouts........... I'm not gonna dampen up. Amar scouts move so slow as it is I'd rather have a basic min assault and run a cloak on that,at least I have a chance of making it out alive. There's your problem. You only have to get below 21 to dodge the permascans. An Amarr Scout should be able to reach that low with 3 CPX Dampeners. The min assault can get below 21 with 3 damps as well, why is this limited to amarr scout? I main the amarr scout suit. And I only use this suit. And if anything its so badly suited to dealing with ewar and scanners. Sure you can fit the 3 damps but at what cost? I don't use ewar. I rely on my eyes and ears and get in someone's face when I blast them with the shotgun
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 3	Posted - 2015.06.01 18:58:00 - [25] - Quote Gun game means nothing if you need the game to show you where the bad men are. XD The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 24	Posted - 2015.06.01 19:02:00 - [26] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Gun game means nothing if you need the game to show you where the bad men are. XD Give this man a cookie. What happened you using your eye holes and your ears.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 785	Posted - 2015.06.01 19:10:00 - [27] - Quote The only reason I don't like scanners is that it destroys a scouts usefulness apart from the ninja dynanmic. I say scouts should be able to do what scouts do which is to move forward quickly and observe from a distance. Scouts should have the active scan bonus and logis have the passive short range suit scans. Logis stay close to their team so they should be better at picking up close enemy contact. Nerf the passive scans of the assault, heavy and basic suits. Scouts could then use scanners and maybe have scanners not pick up anything too close, only at a certain minimum and max range. Then nerf scanners to where they have a massive cooldown. Then the scout would have a cooldown reduction bonus on the suit as well as a range increase. Give scouts WP for scans and it gives people an incentive to run scouts and makes logis better to have around. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 2	Posted - 2015.06.01 19:13:00 - [28] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: A piece of equipment that made even me explode. No one likes seeing the 'you have been scanned' permenatly written on their hud. modules are given penalties for stacking and cloaks have a limit of one per fit. Why can't we take a note from them and do that with the scanner? Make it one scanner per fit only or give it a minor scan visiblity time penalty per scanner. It would help with the proto stomps. It can be problematic on a gal logo devoted only to scans.... Limit to two. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
Barb Wilson Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.06.01 19:15:00 - [29] - Quote I do not have the data, but it seems that scouts are rare on the field. The eWare nerf hurt a lot, scouts were no longer able to "scout". If an assault can fill the role of a scout better than a scout then we have issues. The utility of scouts is lacking, plan and simple. They should not be slayers, they should be disrupters, and part of that is needing information. Pick off the stragglers or hack that point with little defense. I think if a scan nerf is needed no matter what. Not sure if scouts need a utility buff, but it is not feasible to run with passive scanners.
iKILLu osborne T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 795	Posted - 2015.06.02 08:36:00 - [30] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: You have the tools to counter scanners. So, stop being a scrub. -_- it's not just you being scanned its your entire team including movement path (where the push is gonna happen it also lights up equipment giving any enemy scout that is flanking invaluable Intel. And it says to any squad "drop ob here!!!!!" Simply put it puts your team at an extreme disadvantage with low risk especially if he is hiding on a roof with dampened gal logi (n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs Retired 62mil sp, z platoon vet, og shotty



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