KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:38:00 -
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EVERYONE CALM DOWN!
The assaults will have less walking speed, but sprinting speed and strafing speed will remain the same according to CCP Rattati.
Pokey Dravon wrote:
Assaults will be useless because their speed will reflect how much defense they have?
While I agree this thread is thread is crazy and overreacting, I don't think there's anything wrong with the assault's current speed and HP. Though I don't think reduced walking speed will be a big deal.
Cody Sietz wrote:Wasn't that the plan? Like Legions was planning on doing this already.
No. Legion is getting rid of commandos, and giving assaults 2 light weapons.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:52:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:EVERYONE CALM DOWN!
The assaults will have less walking speed, but sprinting speed and strafing speed will remain the same according to CCP Rattati.
While I agree this thread is thread is crazy and overreacting, I don't think there's anything wrong with the assault's current speed and HP. Though I don't think reduced walking speed will be a big deal.
My only concern with your statement is the lack of recognition of the repeated over nerfing of something and then the year delay that is experienced as it is readjusted to get back in line with everything else... or... almost 2 years, in the case of shields.
That might have been the case in the past, but it has not been that way since Rattati took over balancing, and he in fact was the one to undo many of the awful balancing that his predecessors did (for example, the flaylock pistol is actually good now).
Rattati posted details about the nerf in his thread, just like he always posts threads detailing his balancing decisions for community discussion and revision. We have access to specifics of the nerf (like the fact that sprint and strafe speeds will remain intact), so there is no reason to be overreacting.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.05.29 21:43:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:EVERYONE CALM DOWN!
The assaults will have less walking speed, but sprinting speed and strafing speed will remain the same according to CCP Rattati.
While I agree this thread is thread is crazy and overreacting, I don't think there's anything wrong with the assault's current speed and HP. Though I don't think reduced walking speed will be a big deal.
My only concern with your statement is the lack of recognition of the repeated over nerfing of something and then the year delay that is experienced as it is readjusted to get back in line with everything else... or... almost 2 years, in the case of shields. That might have been the case in the past, but it has not been that way since Rattati took over balancing, and he in fact was the one to undo many of the awful balancing that his predecessors did (for example, the flaylock pistol is actually good now). Rattati posted detais about the nerf in his thread, just like he always posts threads detailing his balancing decisions. We have access to specifics of the nerf (like the fact that sprint and strafe speeds will remain intact), so there is no reason to be overreacting. One person's track record does not outweigh the record of the whole conglomerate... if that were true, Enron would probably still be in business. Without seeing everything completely worked out, I think saying that strafing speed will be maintained is hopelessly optimistic... I have yet to deal with Rattati yet, but I have a feeling the numbers and sayings won't translate into reality. Excuse the tinfoilery, but we're just trying to point out flaws in the thought process that could be addressed elsewhere... Heim and I won't bj the opinion just because of who said it, and our points are valid and do need addressing... and not some handwaving rhetoric.
That one person's track record in balancing DOES outweigh the history when that one person is the ONLY ONE LEFT doing balancing. CCP is not found guilty of committing accounting fraud or any other criminal activity; your problem with CCP is a matter of their reputation, but Enron's was a matter of legal problems (and legal problems aren't erased by fixing one's reputation the way Rattati did for CCP's balancing of Dust), so this Enron analogy you whipped out is pretty ludicrous, and its even more silly given how there was no figure analogous to Rattati that took over to rectify the wrongdoing (the company just filed for bankruptcy and liquidated its assets).
This is like a US American distrusting a British person because of past oppression from colonial days. Not all histories are equally relevant, especially when comparing far past vs recent past.
I often disagree with his decisions, but from countless balancing passes with hotfixes I have learned Rattati has consistently kept his word. He starts with proposals which he then submits to the community for feedback, and based on the feedback he usually adjusts it. Once everything is finalized, he posts an announcement about what is going to change, and his announcements do not lie, or in anyway try to misrepresent what he actually wants to do. This has been the status quo for many months now, and there is no reason to doubt this balance pass will be any different in regards to truthfulness. This is not to say that the plans in regard to the assault speeds are finalized, because they're not, but at the current state of the debate, and Rattati 's position (which I should point out has gotten less severe for assaults) is no cause for this ridiculous and irresponsible panic-mongering I'm seeing.
Saying you doubt that even finalized numbers will translate into reality is basically an accusation of lying, and also unfounded by the history of his hotfixes. Even the old CCP balancing team never made it a habit of posting hotfix notes and patch notes that were blatantly untrue (and if they are wrong by accidents due to bugs, they try and fix it). I get being a disillusioned veteran (which I am), but this is just unfounded BS.
Walking speed reduction for assaults necessitating the complete removal of assaults is NOT a valid point, and frankly is a wild and frankly absurd leap in logic.
I'm out of this paranoid thread. Peace.
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