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Drake Whiteblade
machines of war
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:24:00 -
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For the millionth time, please: Can you remove, fix or do something to the strafe mechanic!
It keeps pissing people off, only ones who like it are those who abuse the sh*t out of it and it ruins the game for a lot of people. Ive spent my time and money on this game and i wish it didnt **** me off so much when die to a scout or an assault i couldnt hit because my bullets wouldnt hit him. Hell, god damn sentinels abuse that ****! Just stack kincats on a amarr sentinel and youre good to go! If you cant do that, can you atleast make it so you cant play dust with mouse/keyboard? That would but me and the other players on the same level and it would be fault that i died, not the mechanics. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:28:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:For the millionth time, please: Can you remove, fix or do something to the strafe mechanic!
It keeps pissing people off, only ones who like it are those who abuse the sh*t out of it and it ruins the game for a lot of people. Ive spent my time and money on this game and i wish it didnt **** me off so much when die to a scout or an assault i couldnt hit because my bullets wouldnt hit him. Hell, god damn sentinels abuse that ****! Just stack kincats on a amarr sentinel and youre good to go! If you cant do that, can you atleast make it so you cant play dust with mouse/keyboard? That would but me and the other players on the same level and it would be fault that i died, not the mechanics. lol nice troll.
kin cats on a heavy only helps to get to good positions, does nothing for base movement speed, thus nothing for strafing.
and you have the same mechanics available to you with a touch of your thumb side-ways, where exactly is anything but you suck at this game is going on here? :D |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:30:00 -
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Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK.
like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts?
Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically.
Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick.
48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:31:00 -
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Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:32:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. because you guys are stupid.
strafing isn't the problem, hit detection is. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:33:00 -
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Mass Drivers are fun
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Drake Whiteblade
machines of war
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:34:00 -
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have you ever seen an amarr sentinel with 3 proto kincats and a mouse/keyboard? I have. He went 30/0. I dont have a problem if i lose to someone with a controller. It only means that i lacked the skill to win the battle. But when i die to a sentinel that out strafes a caldarin assault, thats when i have problem. Im not the best player, no. But im not some rookie noob, and i know when i die to bullshit reasons. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:35:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. because you guys are stupid. strafing isn't the problem, hit detection is.
Strafing only makes these problems far more obvious and in very rare cases even allows those issues to be exploited.
It should be far more than obvious by now that we are not going to get high frame rate and hit detection that works so could we at least have something done about the things that give a huge advantage from those things being broken?
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:38:00 -
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You mean the wiggle wiggle?
Caldari Loyalist
Join Caldari FW via Kirjuun Saaja
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:40:00 -
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First of all, kin kats do not increase strafe speed or regular movement speed -- only sprint speed. Secondly, strafing while firing is a skill: the art of evasion while also maintaining one's accuracy, often against a target that is also doing the same thing.
Strafing is not a problem, though I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that assaults will getting a base movement speed nerf (which effects strafing), though they will maintain their current sprint speeds.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:43:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:First of all, kin kats do not increase strafe speed or regular movement speed -- only sprint speed. Secondly, strafing while firing is a skill: the art of evasion while also maintaining one's accuracy, often against a target that is also doing the same thing.
Strafing is not a problem, though I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that assaults will getting a base movement speed nerf (which effects strafing), though they will maintain their current sprint speeds.
When strafing breaks hit detection it is a problem. However strafing itself is not an issue.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:45:00 -
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BRING BACK THE QUICK SAND EFFECT. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:46:00 -
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Rather have them fix the hot detection problem.
Shot a Caldari Scout 2x today with a shotgun, and did 0 damage. |
BOONE novac
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:46:00 -
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I agree they should ban keyboard and mouse and turbo/moded controllers too many times I've died to those super strafers when I know I easily should've won the engagement even with my turn speed max still can't keep up with them |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:52:00 -
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Old hunter bone have improved my strafe greatly!
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
I'm probably online, but playing Bloodborne
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:54:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts?
Highly doubtful.
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 22:00:00 -
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Strafers are a non issue until you add lag. That is literally the only time they become problematic.
Though, tbh I would like this mechanic to be removed from the game or at least nerfed.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.28 22:01:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Old hunter bone have improved my strafe greatly!
Scub!
Beast Roar trumps your filthy tactics.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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golpe 4
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.05.28 22:02:00 -
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cant everyone strafe i do it cause i dont see how moving side to side is cheating if u have good aim then u can kill strafers rather easily if u have bad aim your gonna have a bad time
im just a scrub here, to u know, do things helpful like ummm commenting,complaining,and giving terrible advice thats it
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 22:08:00 -
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Dust strafing goes appropriately with Latin music.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Patt MaCrotch
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.28 22:38:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Mass Drivers are fun
LMFAO! I was thinking the same thing before I scrolled down and saw yours. That or just pull out an Alldin's and Get'r Done!
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:46:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:For the millionth time, please: Can you remove, fix or do something to the strafe mechanic!
It keeps pissing people off, only ones who like it are those who abuse the sh*t out of it and it ruins the game for a lot of people. Ive spent my time and money on this game and i wish it didnt **** me off so much when die to a scout or an assault i couldnt hit because my bullets wouldnt hit him. Hell, god damn sentinels abuse that ****! Just stack kincats on a amarr sentinel and youre good to go! If you cant do that, can you atleast make it so you cant play dust with mouse/keyboard? That would but me and the other players on the same level and it would be fault that i died, not the mechanics.
if you are playing with aim assist and still complain about strafing then you are the problem, I play without aim assist and I have no problem killing people, hit detection isn't a problem either
the only real problem I see is lag, it is the main source of most problems but isn't always present. and it has gotten a lot better then it used to be |
Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:12:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK.
like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts?
Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically.
Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Scouts are easy. But when there a damn stacked min assault rapping the holy crap out of your amor there is NOTHING you can do
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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Nachos
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:27:00 -
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i use KB/M and tried DS3, the strafing difference is really extremely minimal.
git gud, everyone can kill strafers. Not that hard
xavier zor's alt
knifed musturd, radar, duna
xavier zor
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:28:00 -
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It's lag and no, mouse and keyboard are not the culprit. We adults will keep our mouse and keyboard thank you very much.
The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
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Nachos
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:28:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK.
like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts?
Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically.
Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Scouts are easy. But when there a damn stacked min assault rapping the holy crap out of your amor there is NOTHING you can do
ignore this guy...i saw him almost go negative in a pub once.
edit: talking about Lightning35 Delta514. He sucks
xavier zor's alt
knifed musturd, radar, duna
xavier zor
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Imp Smash
molon labe. RUST415
859
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:29:00 -
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Drake Whiteblade wrote:have you ever seen an amarr sentinel with 3 proto kincats and a mouse/keyboard? I have. He went 30/0. I dont have a problem if i lose to someone with a controller. It only means that i lacked the skill to win the battle. But when i die to a sentinel that out strafes a caldarin assault, thats when i have problem. Im not the best player, no. But im not some rookie noob, and i know when i die to bullshit reasons.
And you think that has anything to do with strafing?
You are cute. <3 |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:29:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK.
like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts?
Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically.
Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Not everyone uses aim assist, and strafing + lag (server lag, not poor FPS) = poor hit detection
Aloha snackbar
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:33:00 -
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I agree something needs to be done- SO much map design was obviously put into providing cover, but it doesn't mean **** because you're better off strafing than shooting from cover.
Aloha snackbar
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:38:00 -
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While lack of inertia with strafing is an issue for mobile targets, I would like to get some misinformation straight.
KinCats only affects sprint speed. Nothing else. Not walking speed. Not strafe speed. You can't throw KCs on a sentinel and give it super strafing powers.
Intertia IMO is the answer.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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