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Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 527	Posted - 2015.05.29 01:41:00 - [31] - Quote Nachos wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK. like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts? Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically. Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Scouts are easy. But when there a damn stacked min assault rapping the holy crap out of your amor there is NOTHING you can do ignore this guy...i saw him almost go negative in a pub once. edit: talking about Lightning35 Delta514. He sucks When was that match? Mon-Thursday or fri-Sunday? I play on 2 different tvs. On weekends I'm a boss, on weekdays, I suck cuz I use an he TV that doesn't have game mode or anything. There is input lag so I literally can't aim or anything. I play those only to try to win a key. FIGHT ME. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 527	Posted - 2015.05.29 01:42:00 - [32] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK. like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts? Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically. Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Not everyone uses aim assist, and strafing + lag (server lag, not poor FPS) = poor hit detection Don't have aim assist. Never had. I hate it. I have sensitivity up. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Nachos 214	Posted - 2015.05.29 01:56:00 - [33] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Nachos wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK. like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts? Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically. Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Scouts are easy. But when there a damn stacked min assault rapping the holy crap out of your amor there is NOTHING you can do ignore this guy...i saw him almost go negative in a pub once. edit: talking about Lightning35 Delta514. He sucks When was that match? Mon-Thursday or fri-Sunday? I play on 2 different tvs. On weekends I'm a boss, on weekdays, I suck cuz I use an he TV that doesn't have game mode or anything. There is input lag so I literally can't aim or anything. I play those only to try to win a key. FIGHT ME. oh lol, another one bites the bait this right here is how you start a troll-string of posts xavier zor's alt knifed musturd, radar, duna xavier zor
Void Echo Helix Order Learning Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.05.29 02:55:00 - [34] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Ok, I'm going to say this aloud now. I have kept it in for to long. IF SOMEONE DIES TO A STRAFER, IMPROVE YOUR FREAKIN AIM CUZ YOU SUCK. like literally. Am I the only one that kills STRAFER scouts? Your choice to take that personally or not above. I did not mention anyone specifically. Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Nope your not alone, I kill scouts on a regular basis, they think a cloaker will block me from seeing them, there wrong Closed Beta Vet. My Youtube. "Until all are free"
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 03:01:00 - [35] - Quote I want the bug sprint back. If someone is firing at you YOU SHOULD SLOW THE **** DOWN!! Magical bullets -_- (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.05.29 19:43:00 - [36] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: I want the bug sprint back. If someone is firing at you YOU SHOULD SLOW THE **** DOWN!! Magical bullets -_- That was something we referred to as stun lock, though I heard that was an incorrect term for it. Sprint glitch was something entirely different. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY PERFECTION Conclusive Wrath 93	Posted - 2015.05.29 19:44:00 - [37] - Quote JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Join Conclusive Wrath or ........... die
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.05.29 19:50:00 - [38] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Is that why they are still trying and doing things like PC 2.0 and power cores? Because they don't care? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 636	Posted - 2015.05.29 19:57:00 - [39] - Quote Drake Whiteblade wrote: have you ever seen an amarr sentinel with 3 proto kincats and a mouse/keyboard? I have. He went 30/0. I dont have a problem if i lose to someone with a controller. It only means that i lacked the skill to win the battle. But when i die to a sentinel that out strafes a caldarin assault, thats when i have problem. Im not the best player, no. But im not some rookie noob, and i know when i die to bullshit reasons. You don't know that Kinetic Catalyzers only increase sprint speed and don't affect strafing at all. Sorry, but you are a rookie noob. We want cake and tea.
HOLY PERFECTION Conclusive Wrath 93	Posted - 2015.05.29 20:36:00 - [40] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Is that why they are still trying and doing things like PC 2.0 and power cores? Because they don't care? They dont care about issues like strafing, op weapons, and other small mechanics. They just add stuff and never fix it. THEY DONT CARE Join Conclusive Wrath or ........... die

DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.05.29 20:47:00 - [41] - Quote Of all the things I'm excited for in Star Citizen, their realistic movement physics is definitely one of the biggest draws. Physics = the death of strafing. This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
wireless network Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.05.29 21:17:00 - [42] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. The 'sandbox mechanic'? Lolwtf is that?
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.05.29 21:30:00 - [43] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Is that why they are still trying and doing things like PC 2.0 and power cores? Because they don't care? They dont care about issues like strafing, op weapons, and other small mechanics. They just add stuff and never fix it. THEY DONT CARE Maybe they care and just realize certain fixes take amounts of time disproportionate to problem compared to other fixes. And they obviously care about OP weapons as there have been numerous weapons changes over the past year. I think your frustration is clouding your judgment. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY PERFECTION Conclusive Wrath 93	Posted - 2015.05.29 23:05:00 - [44] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Is that why they are still trying and doing things like PC 2.0 and power cores? Because they don't care? They dont care about issues like strafing, op weapons, and other small mechanics. They just add stuff and never fix it. THEY DONT CARE Maybe they care and just realize certain fixes take amounts of time disproportionate to problem compared to other fixes. And they obviously care about OP weapons as there have been numerous weapons changes over the past year. I think your frustration is clouding your judgment. No i have taken that into consideration, i assure you that im not frustrated. I have seen they have tried, but failed flat on their face in doing so. The buffed the scrambler when its not needed. They focus too much on the numbers and not the actual game mechanic and gameplay of the weapons . Join Conclusive Wrath or ........... die
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.05.30 03:00:00 - [45] - Quote In and of itself the mechanic doesn't bother me (doesn't mean I don't roll my eyes when I choke and get blasted) but it doesn't mesh very well with the overall feel of the game--even hella myofib suits have stamina to limit them.
Kaughst Nyain San 829	Posted - 2015.05.30 07:01:00 - [46] - Quote I haven't been on in a while, which mods make you jump high. Going to switch some stuff out for my MD. "Remember: no matter the circumstances, there will always be people willing to push you down a hole."
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 592	Posted - 2015.05.30 09:31:00 - [47] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: First of all, kin kats do not increase strafe speed or regular movement speed -- only sprint speed. Secondly, strafing while firing is a skill: the art of evasion while also maintaining one's accuracy, often against a target that is also doing the same thing. Strafing is not a problem, though I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that assaults will getting a base movement speed nerf (which effects strafing), though they will maintain their current sprint speeds. EDIT: actually seems like Rattati plans to lower movement speed without it effecting strafe speed. There is strafing and there is dance dance revolution 514 Click me
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.30 09:38:00 - [48] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: You mean the wiggle wiggle? Hah, I posted a bunch of videos in the ehp thread and your gif was from one. I am amused. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
general drake55 G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.05.30 09:48:00 - [49] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Let me give you a tip. If you are close enough to for your enemy to strafe, start using assault rifles. Plenty of ammo, good damage. And if someone is strafing, they are mostly speedy scouts so you can kill them quick. Also, turn up your sensitivity on your controller. Adjust to quicker movements. agreed,the only problem I have is mass driver jumplers,I understand his frustration...but seriously,their not gonna take the mouse and keyboard out,its a no go. fight for freedom and what's right,only you have the power to stop the madness. >Rush at me trolls,I dare you!
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 7	Posted - 2015.05.30 11:29:00 - [50] - Quote Drake Whiteblade wrote: For the millionth time, please: Can you remove, fix or do something to the strafe mechanic! It keeps pissing people off, only ones who like it are those who abuse the sht out of it and it ruins the game for a lot of people. Ive spent my time and money on this game and i wish it didnt * me off so much when die to a scout or an assault i couldnt hit because my bullets wouldnt hit him. Hell, god damn sentinels abuse that **! Just stack kincats on a amarr sentinel and youre good to go! If you cant do that, can you atleast make it so you cant play dust with mouse/keyboard? That would but me and the other players on the same level and it would be fault that i died, not the mechanics. i've said this before too, it's not the strafing speed of the game that is the problem, what you are encountering is the difference between using a ps3 controller (you), and (enemy) using a mouse and keyboard strafe, and the reason ccp have done this is to get their eve players playing dust, the difference really bugs me, the extra 'speed' in which a keyboard user can strafe with really makes a massive difference, and don't even get me started on the accuracy and turret speed of tanks that use M+K, but..... too busy playing

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 592	Posted - 2015.05.30 11:44:00 - [51] - Quote deo volente2 wrote: Drake Whiteblade wrote: For the millionth time, please: Can you remove, fix or do something to the strafe mechanic! It keeps pissing people off, only ones who like it are those who abuse the sht out of it and it ruins the game for a lot of people. Ive spent my time and money on this game and i wish it didnt * me off so much when die to a scout or an assault i couldnt hit because my bullets wouldnt hit him. Hell, god damn sentinels abuse that **! Just stack kincats on a amarr sentinel and youre good to go! If you cant do that, can you atleast make it so you cant play dust with mouse/keyboard? That would but me and the other players on the same level and it would be fault that i died, not the mechanics. i've said this before too, it's not the strafing speed of the game that is the problem, what you are encountering is the difference between using a ps3 controller (you), and (enemy) using a mouse and keyboard strafe, and the reason ccp have done this is to get their eve players playing dust, the difference really bugs me, the extra 'speed' in which a keyboard user can strafe with really makes a massive difference, and don't even get me started on the accuracy and turret speed of tanks that use M+K, but..... Mouse and keyboard is very very clunky in this game though. Mouse and keyboard also does not have Aim assist so no bullet magnetism. Add the low frame rate and you get subpar controls Click me
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 7	Posted - 2015.05.30 11:51:00 - [52] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. because you guys are stupid. strafing isn't the problem, hit detection is. hit detection is a problem too, but i fear you are being the 'stupid one' by failing to understand the problem, there IS a noticeable difference to the speed as to which you can left/right 'wiggle' between controller and keyboaed. FACT. too busy playing
Michael-J-Fox Richards The Scope Gallente Federation 362	Posted - 2015.05.30 12:56:00 - [53] - Quote AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! THE STRAFFING!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! alts are for sissies. too legit, too legit to quit.
Knightshade Belladonna Kentucky Fried Clones 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 13:03:00 - [54] - Quote I'll just ask this to those who defend it. Why do you strafe? Simple question
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2015.05.30 13:07:00 - [55] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. because you guys are stupid. strafing isn't the problem, hit detection is. Strafing only makes these problems far more obvious and in very rare cases even allows those issues to be exploited. It should be far more than obvious by now that we are not going to get high frame rate and hit detection that works so could we at least have something done about the things that give a huge advantage from those things being broken? This game has been played for over 2 years by high quality FPS players from all games backgrounds... They have competed in endless PC's for months straight, Tournaments, Squad cup, Urgent Fury Tournament.. And during all this time did we ever see these players complain that someone is moving to much and making it to hard for them to aim?? Like you can't be this obtuse or focused on just your emotions and feelings of the issue not actually looking at facts. People hit each other fine... In Highly competitive modes in DUST with actual competent players who have largely left this game because of it's incompetence... No one had trouble killing each other because we moved side to side... That is just part of playing a shooter. CCP has given you guys Aim assist to largely negate the hit detection issues and moving targets that people are to lazy to learn how to track... And feel they just just have to touch the joystick in their general direction and fire and the target should die.. They have dumbed down and made this game as stupid as it can... They have chased away nearly every player who is an FPS enthusiast in doing so? In turn they have attracted a casual CoD player to DUST. And threads and opinions that strafing needs to be nerfed like these pop up.... Why do we even have the ability to aim at all? Just give us a general locking mechanic that keeps us facing at the target and landing all our bullets.... MMORPG style.. Give us "Next Target" and "Target closest target" Button options... No point in aiming really anymore anyway... With aim assist and how suits work... It's pretty much not far away from the above option anyway.
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2015.05.30 13:13:00 - [56] - Quote deo volente2 wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. because you guys are stupid. strafing isn't the problem, hit detection is. hit detection is a problem too, but i fear you are being the 'stupid one' by failing to understand the problem, there IS a noticeable difference to the speed as to which you can left/right 'wiggle' between controller and keyboaed. FACT. You have bought forum propaganda as FACT..... FACT. CCP has stated countless times... It has been proven by multiple you-tubers... There is acceleration curve in moving in DUST... When you goto move.. You DON'T automatically start at full speed... There is an acceleration curve before you get to top speed. You can hit "A,D,A,D,A,D" all you want on the keyboard.... you end up in the same spot and EXTREMELY easy for aim assist to hit.. There is a thing called Stutter stepping on the Gamepad... This is a skill that every quality Console FPS player learns as a right of passage from becoming a normal casual FPS player to one that cares about their outcome and continuously tries to improve it. But whatever sit in your ignorance blaming **** that doesn't exist and calling it facts.
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2015.05.30 13:25:00 - [57] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JUST GIVE UP CCP DOESNT CARE Is that why they are still trying and doing things like PC 2.0 and power cores? Because they don't care? They dont care about issues like strafing, op weapons, and other small mechanics. They just add stuff and never fix it. THEY DONT CARE Maybe they care and just realize certain fixes take amounts of time disproportionate to problem compared to other fixes. And they obviously care about OP weapons as there have been numerous weapons changes over the past year. I think your frustration is clouding your judgment. No i have taken that into consideration, i assure you that im not frustrated. I have seen they have tried, but failed flat on their face in doing so. The buffed the scrambler when its not needed. They focus too much on the numbers and not the actual game mechanic and gameplay of the weapons . Wtf are you smoking? So much stupid in this thread... CCP Shanghai spent over a year buffing and nerfing things based on them playing the game and deciding to nerf or buff this based on whims... CCP Rattati came in and his first year was just building spreadsheets and data points in which CCP Shanghai could make proper educated decisions about actions in the game.. Not nerfing and buffing soemthing because they "Felt" it was to strong in playstesting... They do it based on actual data now. Which every game developer does. Further more the nerfing and buffing of gun classes is game development 101... They teach this in universities accross the planet.. It is part of basic game design... They do it in Destiny, CoD, BF, Titanfall... When certain gun classes or weapon become to prominent or used to much with extremely high statistics..They will nerf it and buff another gun class... Why? because it is good business.. Because it keeps players engaged, hunting and training for new items.. Evolving.. It's how you design these games... Bungie does the same with Destiny.. This should not be a surprise to people... If you see alot of people using the same weapon... It will get nerfed.. Not because it is OP... but because everyone is using the same weapon.
deezy dabest 2	Posted - 2015.05.30 14:05:00 - [58] - Quote wireless network wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Strafing is an issue and has been since the removal of the sandbox mechanic thanks to terrible frame rates and bad hit detection but OP just makes everyone that sees the problem look stupid. The 'sandbox mechanic'? Lolwtf is that? It has also been referred to as the quick sand effect and stun lock and a bunch of other names that no one ever really knew what it was called. Basically it was the effect where getting hit by bullets caused you to slow down. It was a good mechanic that had a broken implementation. Unfortunately CCP decided it was best to throw it away instead of fixing it which was really the day strafing was born in Dust. It could have been fixed and toned way down but everyone yelled that it killed strafing which was true in its broken form.
lowdevil Savage Bullet RUST415 77	Posted - 2015.05.30 15:13:00 - [59] - Quote I Full heartedly agree with removing any and all keyboard functionality. Having it allows for a whole realm of cheating. It's a console game dammit, make people play it as one.
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 669	Posted - 2015.05.30 15:22:00 - [60] - Quote Drake Whiteblade wrote: have you ever seen an amarr sentinel with 3 proto kincats and a mouse/keyboard? I have. He went 30/0. I dont have a problem if i lose to someone with a controller. It only means that i lacked the skill to win the battle. But when i die to a sentinel that out strafes a caldarin assault, thats when i have problem. Im not the best player, no. But im not some rookie noob, and i know when i die to bullshit reasons. That's what KTB said. Look at him now, archenemy of half the playerbase. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç



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