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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:03:00 -
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Check out this concept infographic. There's even love for alliance interaction as well with districts.
Note: If district is raided, those warbarges that were connected have their modifiers offlined for 12 hour period. At this time, the planetary logistics officer may choose to pull up the menu and select a player from the corp or alliance, not connected to a district to slave move their warbarge into production link with the flotilla. If another raid occurs where enemy is victorious, that player's modules are then offilined for a 12 hour period. Only 25 warbarges may be connected to a flotilla factory link at a time.
Benefits of production go to player. Logistics officers communicate with corp members to acquire goods produced from player, or manage time slots.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:16:00 -
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Players could have a log of when their warbarge was connected to their corp or alliance districts. This info could be used to broker time share rights. It could also be used as a collective claims too to show if planetary logisicts officers are optimizing everyone's warbarge production time amidst raiding.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:28:00 -
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x2 double modification would probably be the highest anyone could upgrade their modifiers with district kredits. You get done in one day what normally took 2 days to produce.
You'd still have a cap, which means you'd have to log in more frequently to collect goods.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:55:00 -
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There would also be a minor command point cost tied to moving players' warbarges to and from the factory flotilla link by the logistics officers.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:54:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Found a breakthrough on enhancing raiding, district ownership and use of District Kredits. Check out this concept infographic. There's even love for alliance interaction as well with districts. Note: If district is raided, those warbarges that were connected have their module modifiers offlined for 12 hour period. At this time, the planetary logistics officer may choose to pull up the menu and select a player from the corp or alliance, not connected to a district to slave move their warbarge into production link with the flotilla. If another raid occurs where enemy is victorious, that player's modules are then offilined for a 12 hour period. If that logistics officer chose to keep the original warbarge in-place, it's modifiers would come back online in 12 hours, unless the district was raided again at which time the offline modifier counter resets for that warbarge. Only 25 warbarges may be connected to a flotilla factory link at a time. Benefits of production go to player. Logistics officers communicate with corp members to acquire goods produced from player, or manage time slots.
Looks like a way to increase the protostomping. I hope CCP won't do anything like this.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:11:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Looks like a way to increase the protostomping. I hope CCP won't do anything like this. How so? Please explain. Yes, the damage modifier requires consideration, but I think it's fine in the scheme of things. If you want to cut down this player's modified power abilities you cut off this power source by attacking that player's corporation/alliance holdings with raids.
The 25 warbarge limit per district, modifier locking mechanics for lost raids, and command point cost for moving warbarges to the link curtail the ability of a player to always remain at modified power levels unless they work really hard at it with the combined effort of their corporation and alliance.
Defending districts from raids and making sure the planetary logistics officers are maximizing timeshare on the flotilla links while not eating up too many command points which leave the corp vulnerable.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:16:00 -
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As a personal note, it would be helpful to see when a player's weapons are boosted on the 'killed by screen.' Helps for making a mental note and planning your vengeance on that player's corp/alliance districts to take them back down a peg.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:36:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Looks like a way to increase the protostomping. I hope CCP won't do anything like this. How so? Please explain. Yes, the damage modifier requires consideration, but I think it's fine in the scheme of things. If you want to cut down this player's modified power abilities you cut off this power source by attacking that player's corporation/alliance holdings with raids. The 25 warbarge limit per district, modifier locking mechanics for lost raids, and command point cost for moving warbarges to the link curtail the ability of a player to always remain at modified power levels unless they work really hard at it with the combined effort of their corporation and alliance. Defending districts from raids and making sure the planetary logistics officers are maximizing timeshare on the flotilla links while not eating up too many command points which leave the corp vulnerable.
Because most players won't do PC at all, nor will they have the ability to do so. The whole thingwould just increase the difference between newbies and vets furhter.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 07:46:00 -
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Newbies have academy, matchmaker in public contract, and a way to contribute to building command points of PC involved corporations by running missions. From there, corp trainers bring up players into the C and B teams to participate in queued Faction Warfare and District Raids. Top skill competitive players will player your big fights and likely have their warbarges placed in flotilla link to get battle bonuses. Again, this kind of logistic work costs command points.
It's a game of careful planning and not over extending yourself to make sure you have the bonuses when you need them most.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 08:34:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Newbies have academy, matchmaker in public contract, and a way to contribute to building command points of PC involved corporations by running missions. From there, corp trainers bring up players into the C and B teams to participate in queued Faction Warfare and District Raids. Top skill competitive players will participate in your big fights and likely have their warbarges placed in flotilla link to get battle bonuses during those key battles. Again, this kind of logistic work costs command points.
It's a game of careful planning and not over extending yourself to make sure you have the bonuses when you need them most.
Seems like a next gen kind of concept, but I really like it.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:42:00 -
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Here is what that operations menu could look like for logistics officers.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:37:00 -
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Preface: For damage modifier to apply, player must be connected to a home corporation district. Link to alliance district does not power damage modifier bonus. Alliance district link modifies power of out of game production subsystems.
I'm cautious about the possibility of a maxed out 2x modifier being applied to a fully upgraded damage modifier subsystem, 8% (or 16% damage buff when modified by district link).
At the same token, it puts a greater emphasis on raiding as a way for defenders to weaken a districts' home advantage.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:46:00 -
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What I think...
This is a great suggestion, overall. I dislike any idea of buffs to the Ammo Facility, but generally it's a good proposal that maintains activity. Also, I like how raiding is factored in.
I do want to say, though, that something needs to be done to make Pubs less attractive to Protostomp squads,or this would make them even more unbearable.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:00:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:I dislike any idea of buffs to the Ammo Facility, but generally it's a good proposal that maintains activity. Also, I like how raiding is factored in. How about this alteration to the ammo facility bonus?
"Damage bonus only applies to fighting on that planet (including all districts on that planet)." This would require establishing a foothold on the planet by conquering a district. Moving your prospective A-team's warbarges to link with that district. Finally, defending against raids around the clock in order to keep those linked warbarges from having their modifiers offlined by a successful enemy raid.
If you want to maintain that damage bonus for fights on that planet you have to work really hard on defense.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:53:00 -
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That I can get behind.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:17:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:That I can get behind. As the damage modifier is a corp specific bonus for that planet (you only get it when linking with your corp district) this disincentivizes ringers from being used to fight a corporations primary battles. Ringers and alliance members can still be brought in to assist in the defense against district raids.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.05.28 18:08:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Kallas Hallytyr wrote:That I can get behind. As the damage modifier is a corp specific bonus for that planet (you only get it when linking with your corp district) this disincentivizes ringers from being used to fight a corporations primary battles. Ringers and alliance members can still be brought in to assist in the defense against district raids. Restricting that bonus to the District itself and/or the Planet it's on also has a fringe benefit: location of your District matters, as you are more able to influence local areas than being able to just spam clone packs wherever and whenever you like.
+1.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:11:00 -
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Quote:Raiding This also introduces a way for Corporations that donGÇÖt want to own Districts, to make money by using their earned Command Points to attack their enemies, or easy targets by any definition, to see if they canGÇÖt make money using the recently introduced Keep what you Kill reward method. If a corporation ends up winning a District, and doesnGÇÖt want it, they can always ransom it back as well. We hope to expand on the Raiding concept further down the line, by actually stealing resources from the District owner, possibly by GÇ£instant-sellingGÇ¥ clones for ISK and DK.
The next thing that needs to be sorted out is time it takes players or logistic officers to 'prepare to leave/prepare to join' either the flotilla or their corp; this relates to the frequency of how often players can raid a corporation.
Does anyone from the PC Think Tank know how often you can raid a corporation? Is it an X number of times per day?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.29 04:50:00 -
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Here is a new concept graphic showing the specifics of docking management and damage dock states. I used Lux Aeterna Int and THE LAST H0PE. as the example for alliance interaction with warbarge transferring.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.29 05:10:00 -
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25 spots per district with 245 districts in Molden Heath, that allows 6125 players to participate in the modified module process. That seems large enough while also encouraging competition for space.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.29 05:22:00 -
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To alleviate the concerns that in order to compete on a PC level you have to pay AUR in order to max level your ammo damage factory for the best bonus, I have this secondary feature suggestion.
[Here's an idea. Spend District Kredits in order to send components to another player]
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:18:00 -
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I continue to support your ideas Jadek.
Aka, bump
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Edgar Reinhart
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:28:00 -
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Any opinions on if there should be punishment / loss of levels / upgrades / subsystem damage / component loss / timed warbarge lockout should the district your warbarge is linked to be lost? |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:55:00 -
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Edgar Reinhart wrote:Any opinions on if there should be punishment / loss of levels / upgrades / subsystem damage / component loss / timed warbarge lockout should the district your warbarge is linked to be lost? Sure, I'd like to explore loss of bonus modifier levels as consequence of district being lost while your warbarge was connected. Because of the power of logistics officers hold to move corporation warbarges and even warbarges of alliance members (if those corps' directors wave the authorization security check), a team of logistics officers could mess up in a big way by poorly managing warbarges docking on at risk districts which could result in interesting inner-corp/alliance conflict as members are frustrated that their investment of district kredits into modifiers was wasted due to someone else's bad management.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.05.30 01:38:00 -
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happy birthday?
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.30 03:22:00 -
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Cool.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:31:00 -
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Addressing the Cargo Hub Proliferation Issue: The 25 player warbarges connected to a district are impacted when allies or corpmates win or lose battles over that district's control. -Win: If team is successful in defending district, all warbarges connected to that district randomly receive x0.1 point to a module modifier. Each module modifiers works from a 10 point system between x1.0 to x2.0. Each modifier level costs increasingly more District Kredits to level up. District wins facilitate leveling process in a risk vs reward paradigm. Surface infrastructure does not impact how points you received. All wins only award x0.1 point to one module on each of the 25 players connected to the district.
-Loss: Surface infrastructure type impacts how many points you lose. For hypothetical example, Molden Heath's is 80% covered by cargo hub installations. A warbarge connected to a cargo hub district now carries greater risks with the same x0.1 point reward for a win. If the district suffers a loss, 80% of your unlocked modifier modules go down by x0.1 points. If you had five modules unlocked, four would be affected by a district loss.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:33:00 -
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I shall use 'Hidden Bump' of the 'Crouching Idea' form of Forum Fu.
Regadless, very good idea.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.30 08:28:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Each module modifiers works from a 10 point system between x1.0 to x2.0. Each modifier level costs increasingly more District Kredits to level up. Again, to clarify, this modifier is production speed not production capacity (except for the damage bonus, which is only active for the planet your warbarge is connected to in Molden Heath).
So if you had mobile factory 5 producing 600 components a day normally (2 day capacity of 1200), and you had a x1.8 active modifier running to boost that subsystem, you'd now make 1080 components in a single day. Once you reach the capacity of 1200 for that module, any additional production is lost time. When you are producing at this faster rate, you have to log in more frequently to make sure you're not hitting capacity.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.06.01 06:54:00 -
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Bump for discussion.
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