...What?
Did you notice the other part?
Nerf stamina?

I want Gallente to be what they are supposed to be, quick sprinters, terrible long distance runners.

Haven't down the thread, but wouldn't it be logical at that point to make armor plates reduce stam.

No, in fact it would not, a nerf is a reduction, unless the heavy suit was in fact reduced in some fashion, then it is not a nerf.

Are you unfamiliar with meaning and cause/effect?

Can an Assault get a Cloaking Device, two equipment slots, and inherent low profile without having to sacrifice a boatload of fitting to do it?

I can't even wrap my head around the irony here - the argument (I assume as I still haven't gotten a direct answer) was that Assaults were too mobile and got too much EHP for this hypothetical EHP/Speed curve

Yet, not three pages ago, we were arguing that an Assault can get 9m/s sprint speed with 900 EHP.

So what's the -actual- problem? What are you guys trying to accomplish here besides making the shoe fit after you've hit the foot with the hammer?

"Scouts should have the same movement speed as Logis" in this case and watch the cascade of hatred/rage come pouring out of the Barbershop.

I'll take the movement speed over the sprint speed -ANY- day.

My problem is that I had to repeatedly ask what the overall goal here was and I brought up points of contention that, I feel, weren't fully considered.

The question (that I feel were not answered) I asked were:
- How is the Gal Assault's role going to be made more viable so that it's intended design is being used competitively?
- What is going to put the weaker Assaults on par with their current performance whereas the problem Assaults are justifiably brought down?
- What unique role does the Assault play that justifies it's existence if other roles become more viable/overshadow it? What can the Assault do that no-one else can?
- Why make these changes all at once instead of bringing up the Logis/Commandos -AND THEN- bringing the Assaults down?
- What evidence do we have that supports that simultaneously buffing Logis/Commandos and nerfing Assaults in the same pass -ISN'T- going to drastically shift the meta spectrum in a way that is unhealthy?/quote]

Thanks for linking to your other post. Sometimes stating core concerns painfully simple is needed otherwise it can get overshadowed, which I think your cpm comment gave room for others to shift away from your base concern, it took up about half of your post. I also think your response to me was more concise than your original post, which is why I responded to you in my last post to give you a better platform to express your thoughts unabated. The very simple question of intra balance and inter balance with assaults along with role are extremely reasonable questions.

Obviously a lot of people value your opinion since everybody is responding to you (gets overwhelming though). I'd try to alter your arguments and presentation to hit very specific focal points. People wall up when they perceive hostility in an argument, even if it had a solid concern.

Things like

-If the speed/ehp regression line is the metric for killing power? Would that not diffuse killing power to every suit equally while other suits still have other unique attributes?

-Should the game be more role / niche focused with extremes rather than focusing on absolute power to prevent overlap?

-Base walking speed is more important that high ehp, then could not logis get the sprint modifier / ehp while assaults get the base speed since the ehp difference is still under the initial alpha damage?

Stating one of these alone is a huge topic in and of itself, which is why it has to be very simply stated or else the conversation just slips to another facet without actually going in depth. Also, I actually agree with you that assaults should be the majority suit in the game, that it should fit the killing role the best, with the others having extremely power niches.

I share a lot of your concerns because I recognize that a simple tic for tac is glossing over a lot without there being some synchronization. My post in 33, had a similar concern.

I feel that the curve is just a base more than a balance, and that there will definitely be a need to deviate from the curve once it gets enacted.

[quote=Aeon Amadi]
-I don't want to live with lower strafe speed-. That's the entire premise here. I'll take an EHP hit but I like the movement speed where it's at.

Sort of...? I mean, it's not directly damage and some would argue that some effects (reload speed, which the commando gets anyway and dispersion which some of us are convinced is just a placebo) have little or nothing to do with damage output.