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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.27 01:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Oversupply of LP? You know they sell other stuff then SKINs and APEX suits. And this was never about economics, it was never about making loads of isk.
Honestly I'm feeling pretty good at convincing my position to the Rat Lord. It's not as if those farming LP won't have other stuff to sell ( APEX, Sepecialist gear, Etc) All I'm saying is that I don't think you can justify a 100,000,000 ISK price tag to the general community. Primarily because that is an incredibly large amount of ISK and the market for players both willing and able to pay that amount is incredibly low. then all I'm saying is don't let them be tradeable and let LP farmers use APEX and specialist gear to convert their LP to ISK
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.05.27 01:30:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:
Honestly I'm feeling pretty good at convincing my position to the Rat Lord. It's not as if those farming LP won't have other stuff to sell ( APEX, Sepecialist gear, Etc)
Oh, so your are not only ignorant and delusional, you are also vain. Good to know.
*checks out of the tread.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.27 01:57:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:13.730.220 ISK. Yup thats right folks less then 15 mil ISK. How i got that number? Quite simple i compared how many proto suits i could get for 23.800 AUR and that number is exactly 238 proto suits.
So lets do some math here:
-1 proto suit AUR suit equals to 57.690 ISK (100 AUR a suit)
-i could buy 238 suits for the price of 1 skin
- 238X 57.690 ISK= 13.730.220 ISK
So if you are trading Skins or are looking to buy a skin you should keep that in mind. If some 1 offers you 25 mil+ ISK for a skin then you allready get more ISK value out of it. So dont be silly and put 100 mil+ pricetags out cause allmost nobody is that stupid. Due to prestige/other nonesense the arguable pricetag would be probs 30 mil which is over 100% then your AUR was originally worth.
A suit is worthless without any gear on it btw. Did you happen to factor that in as well.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.27 02:32:00 -
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I don't understand the hostility here.
I think everyone understands the basics of supply and demand, this isn't shocking news, The Invisible hand has been on the bookshelves for a while now.
The price of 50 mill for a skin simply lowers the profit margin you can gain with that LP. I mean the consumable markets have performance boosting value and apex have actually isk value, skins do not, so lower demand does push down prices but the supply is going to be even lower. You'd make more selling the other items rather than skins, also overstocking specialist consumables has more utility for the seller than overstocking skins which become completely useless.
I don't expect the LP skin market supply to really be all that high due to these constraints, and any increase to it will entirely be driven by an actual desire for it by non or low factional players, which I don't see happening either.
The best chance you guys have for dirt cheap skins are right when the market opens up (if it does) due to a possible over prediction of the potential demand for them from sellers. Otherwise they are just going to get more expensive as people shift their LP towards more profitable items.
Below 28 dB
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.27 13:59:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:13.730.220 ISK. Yup thats right folks less then 15 mil ISK. How i got that number? Quite simple i compared how many proto suits i could get for 23.800 AUR and that number is exactly 238 proto suits.
So lets do some math here:
-1 proto suit AUR suit equals to 57.690 ISK (100 AUR a suit)
-i could buy 238 suits for the price of 1 skin
- 238X 57.690 ISK= 13.730.220 ISK
So if you are trading Skins or are looking to buy a skin you should keep that in mind. If some 1 offers you 25 mil+ ISK for a skin then you allready get more ISK value out of it. So dont be silly and put 100 mil+ pricetags out cause allmost nobody is that stupid. Due to prestige/other nonesense the arguable pricetag would be probs 30 mil which is over 100% then your AUR was originally worth. A suit is worthless without any gear on it btw. Did you happen to factor that in as well.
Suits are the base which every 1 has to use. I stated the raw value but since there is the greed factor you could charge 2/2.5 times that much and we are looking at somewhere around 25~30mil ISK. Its just as a reference so people dont put out stupid demnds like 80 million ISK for a AUR skin. Plus the math above cannot be applied to FW navy skins.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.27 14:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
You do not lose 85M ISK in the earning of the Dropsuit. Even I don't by fielding HAV. You might lose in the 50 Battles to the top 20M ISK. That means with the additiona 10M ISK cost you are recouping your losses and making 35 Million ISK profit.
One time I had enough money in eve to do an isk transfer with gyn Wallace and got 50 million isk and spent it in a week of playing pubs and fw :(
Only 40k LP to show for it too so it's possible to spend mega isk in FW to earn apex and skins :-/
Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:29:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You do not lose 85M ISK in the earning of the Dropsuit. Even I don't by fielding HAV. You might lose in the 50 Battles to the top 20M ISK. That means with the additiona 10M ISK cost you are recouping your losses and making 35 Million ISK profit.
One time I had enough money in eve to do an isk transfer with gyn Wallace and got 50 million isk and spent it in a week of playing pubs and fw :( Only 40k LP to show for it too so it's possible to spend mega isk in FW to earn apex and skins :-/
Bahahahaha. This made my day. I was always using DUST ISK to fund EVE (transfered 100s of millions of DUST ISK).
I usually spend around 20mil (restocking) per 100K LP.
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.27 20:27:00 -
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I bought my skin @ 30 mill isk
Imo 30-40 mill is going rate and small price to pay
Why did I pay 30? Because the extra isk was insurance
I seen at least 15 people get scammed trying to buy at 20 mill
Most people that are actually selling these AUR skins
Will be selling at 30-40 mill o7
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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