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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.05.26 17:57:00 -
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Dropship fights would literally be the dumbest thing ever.
Basically as soon as two DS's deploy, they would immediately cancel each other out because neither could dodge the fire of the other and would just come down to who saw who first, with no skill required.
Flying takes some level of skill, please don't port over skill-less mechanics from AV
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:51:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Dropship fights would literally be the dumbest thing ever.
Lol. Not as dumb as your use of "literally". Anyways, have you ever been in a DS dog fight? They couldn't really get much dummer --- Circle strafe around each other firing your missiles, trying to out climb the other guy, as soon as one person takes too much damage, retreat behind your MCC. When ramming is the most viable DS vs. DS strategy then there's already a problem. The idea anyways was more as an air-to-ground weapon. So you could make them not able to lock air craft... potentially
I literally used the word literally in literally the exact way that I literally wanted you to literally perceive it.
Like, literally
I don't play much anymore but I have over 2 full years of DS flying under my belt. I have some idea of what I'm talking about. Dogfights are for Incubus, and it actually does take skill to land a kill.
That's how you can tell pilots who know what they're doing vs those who don't. The ones who actually know what they're doing know that dogfights can be very short. The fact that you mention a missile dogfight kind of highlights your position in the matter.
Good dropship pilots can handle tanks just fine as is, no need to add a silly mechanic like this to the mix. Bad pilots should be punished severely for being bad, it's bad enough how many wannabies are up in the sky as is.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.05.26 23:12:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:
Lol
Your two years of ramming people in your Incubus don't impress me.
As to your quip about missile dogfights "highlighting my position"... Rail guns are obviously the ideal weapon in a DS "Dogfight", however most ADS' are outfitted with missiles for anti-infantry, thusly this is how most ADS' encounter each other and how most ADS dogfights happen. Unless someone fits rails to specifically shoot down another ADS, in which case they have a distinct advantage.
But regardless, as long as both ADS' are fitted the same the "Dogfight" works the same way. Circle strafe shooting at each other until one DS has significant damage to be forced to retreat to the red line.
Regardless again, this was more intended as an air-to-ground weapon, so wouldn't even effect "dogfights"
I've pretty much only ever accidentally rammed, but thanks for playing.
The fact that you would engage a "dogfight" while using missiles proves that you don't fly very much, or very well (unless your side gunner is using a missile, then that's slightly less noobish)
Good missile pilots know to simply disengage before it even becomes a dogfight because all you're doing is wasting time, and asking to get rammed or hit by AV while you flail around in the air like an armless tourettes patient.
Rails are AV, missiles are AI, and that's the way it should be.
If only Blasters were somewhere in between, but sadly they're nowhere near either.
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Posted - 2015.05.27 15:13:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
I've pretty much only accidentally rammed mostly,
Well I think the fact that you're constantly ramming into other dropships by mistake kind of highlights your position on this matter... Look, I've shot down tons of pilots like you, with missiles and turrets both, and in numerous situations. The fact is that DS "Dogfighting" is fundamentally wonky anways, it's like watching two Vietnam Era Huey helicopters trying to battle each other. Dogfighting is for fighters. If you don't like the missile idea, then that's fine, but don't act like DS "dogfights" are some perfect art form in danger of being ruined.
I don't know where you assume I'm constantly ramming people lmfao. Just because you know you're wrong, doesn't mean you have to try and paint me as something I'm not.
Pythons aren't allowed to dogfight because missiles that are also good vs vehicles would be insanely OP, and dogfighting with Incubus actually is a perfect art form in danger of being ruined.
You want swarm launchers on drop ships. That's really all that has to be said haha.
I also strongly doubt you've shot down pilots like me with missiles. Unless I was drunk. Well even then you probably didn't cuz I tend to crash into the ground a lot when I drink and fly. Unless of course you mean swarm launchers, then yea I'm sure you have, but that's not saying much lol.
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