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          IG8T8 
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 11:47:00 -
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          can pelt these ******* with triple damage modded proto AV all day and they shrug it off and retreat into redline cover. yet they can oneshot infantry with impunity.
  zero risk.
  why is this an acceptable game mechanic?
 Nomadic ISK farmer. 
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          The Attorney General 
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 11:56:00 -
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          Because most maps, they can only see on flag from there, and can't stop hacks. If they stay in their redline you will win the match. If they come out, have at them.
 Mr. Hybrid Vayu. 
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          jordy mack 
          WarRavens
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 12:02:00 -
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          alot of things one shot infantry, but a lav or a dropship instakill really pisses me off.
 Less QQ more PewPew 
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          Breakin Stuff 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 12:07:00 -
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          Get over it. Until runing tanks is actually profitable this will never stop being a thing.
 WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you. 
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          IG8T8 
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 12:13:00 -
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          Breakin Stuff wrote:Get over it. Until runing tanks is actually profitable this will never stop being a thing.  
  zero risk gameplay is always profitable
 
 Nomadic ISK farmer. 
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          Breakin Stuff 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          IG8T8 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Get over it. Until runing tanks is actually profitable this will never stop being a thing.  zero risk gameplay is always profitable   You clearly don't know how to create risk then.
 WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you. 
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          KEROSIINI-TERO 
          The Rainbow Effect
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 14:02:00 -
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          IG8T8 wrote:can pelt these ******* with triple damage modded proto AV all day and they shrug it off and retreat into redline cover. yet they can oneshot infantry with impunity.
  zero risk.
  why is this an acceptable game mechanic?   
 
 
  That is possible for ONE REAL reason:
  The redlines are too close to the focal point of the fights. Period.
 
 
  All other aspects are necessary: the tank fitting ability, the existence of redline, the tanks ability to survive one or two AV/antitanktank hits...
 
  If the maps would be a longer, not wider, tunnel: the only time people could redline snipe or redline tank would be when they themselves are pushed to their own homeline.
 Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one. 
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          Mejt0 
          Dead Man's Game
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 14:26:00 -
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          Well.. they're not a threat at all.  If you'll stay near the point you'll be fine.
  Snipers are worse.
 Caldari Loyalist 
Uka ki onuoto Kirjuun. Nei ya arekaini saaja hui ka Heiian! 
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu 
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          IG8T8 
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 18:08:00 -
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          Mejt0 wrote:Well.. they're not a threat at all.  If you'll stay near the point you'll be fine.
  Snipers are worse.  
 
  snipers you can kill with a sniper. there is a risk. that is acceptable.
 
 Nomadic ISK farmer. 
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          Void Echo 
          Helix Order Learning Alliance
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 18:20:00 -
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          When tankers see that they no longer need to fear losing isk from their tanks, then you see them coming out of the redline, why on earth would I stay in the battle and lose up to 1 million isk just for you to feel good about yourself?
 Closed Beta Vet. 
CEO: Helix Order 
My Youtube. 
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          IG8T8 
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 18:28:00 -
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          no answers yet to why redline tankers should be able to play zero risk game...
  just poor excuses from cowards.
 Nomadic ISK farmer. 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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          I partially blame the maps. In smaller maps, being outside the redline means that rail tankers are putting themselves at a severe range disadvantage.
  Nothing can be done about it now, but maps like the 5 point skirmish with the small bridge (in domination, the point is on said bridge), fight redline HAVs very well because 1: you can't hit much from the redline, and 2: the redline is up a hill, which takes a little longer to climb.
  Also yesterday, I saw a blaster HAV trying to redline snipe on that map. It was quite amusing.
 Some details can be ignored 
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          Onesimus Tarsus 
          is-a-Corporation
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 18:33:00 -
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          IG8T8 wrote:no answers yet to why redline tankers should be able to play zero risk game...
  just poor excuses from cowards.   ... Well, they are tankers.
 .emag nug ym tpecxe gnihtyreve sexif gnikamhctam RDK 
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          QRT30 
          Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 18:48:00 -
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          Onesimus Tarsus wrote:IG8T8 wrote:no answers yet to why redline tankers should be able to play zero risk game...
  just poor excuses from cowards.  ... Well, they  are tankers.   not tankers but redline quardians  
 QRT30 - open beta vet with over 90 mln Sp or close beta newbie at Planetside 2 
QRT300 - Amarr 
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          Onesimus Tarsus 
          is-a-Corporation
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 19:29:00 -
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          Void Echo wrote:When tankers see that they no longer need to fear losing isk from their tanks, then you see them coming out of the redline, why on earth would I stay in the battle and lose up to 1 million isk just for you to feel good about yourself?   I had never thought about it that way... Think how hard it must be for tankers to feel good about themselves... God only knows.
 .emag nug ym tpecxe gnihtyreve sexif gnikamhctam RDK 
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          Vesta Opalus 
          Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 19:36:00 -
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          IG8T8 wrote:can pelt these ******* with triple damage modded proto AV all day and they shrug it off and retreat into redline cover. yet they can oneshot infantry with impunity.
  zero risk.
  why is this an acceptable game mechanic?   
  b-b-because AV is OP, buff tanks! | 
      
      
      
          
          Lightning35 Delta514 
          48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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        Posted - 2015.05.25 20:28:00 -
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          Also because (at least in the matches I play) rails and missiles are used on shield tanks. If a shield tank leaves the redline, there is like a 78% chance they WILL be destroyed by AV and an armor tank
 48th Special Operations Force 
Twitter-@48SOF 
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