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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:47:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Well, everyone has to grow up sometime. Between 18 and 20 is a common time frame for it to happen. Although I have seen it happen to some people as early as 12 (usually due to very challenging circumstances), and have seen others in their late 30's who have not grown up yet (often due to being spoiled and still living at home).
As always Fox, your input is measured and inspiring.
Kirk is way better than I was at his age. It took moving to CA and Seattle and the people I roomed with to really improve the most glaring of my flaws, and although they are nowhere near eradicated even today, just the maturity Kirk has shown by choosing to avoid self justifying is telling.
It would be so easy for him to simply try and put others down and try to bring people down to make himself look better, but I know Kirk and he knows he can and must expect to change and improve throughout his life.
This thread originated with tasteless intentions but I applaud Kirk for doing a damn fine job by taking it in stride and not becoming defensive and attempting to justify himself.
Hell I've written way worse things on the forums lol but outside the realms of bias I think you would be hard pressed to say that those statements were characteristic of my contributions as a CPM.
Keep it up Kirk. Continue improving and being humble enough to change for the better and you'll go far.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:34:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:This thread originated with tasteless intentions ... 1. Kirk proclaims -- repeatedly -- that the majority of the Community are idiots, then asks that Community to elect him as their representative. 2. A Community member looks into a CPM candidate's post history, then shares his findings and concerns. ^ Which of these is tasteless?
Because it is inflamatory, instead of constructive.
You're intentions couldn't be clearer.
It was always extremely clear to me when I was running for CPM those people who were here only to attempt to showcase my flaws and find any avenue in order to attempt to damage my candidacy and those who honestly came to me with concerns about who I was and what i was about.
Almost every people who was truly interested in figuring out if I was worthy of their vote despite my frailties came to me privately with constructive criticism and meaningful concerns, not lambasting posts seeking to highlight my weaknesses.
I was contacted by over 30 people on skype and email with a far range of concerns.
When sincere people used to forums to determine if i was someone they wanted to support they asked me why they should vote for me, checked out my vote match, and many other things.
But what of the ones who were obviously only there to bring me down? Look at Sota's comments as a prime example on my CPM campaign thread. He wasn't sincerely inquiring....he was there to be a stumbling block.
At worst the least you could do is simply promote the candidates you feel are worth your time, at best be open minded enough to get past your bias.
But simply targeting a candidate you don't like trying to showcase flaws?
If you can't see the difference between "Why should I vote for you, I am really concerned about X" vs "This is who this guy is and **** he did, yeah **** him as a candidate"
Kirk is so much more than the one dimensional flaws you purposed this thread to highlight and put put him on blast about.
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Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:08:00 -
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Where did I say you dislike Kirk?
Who said you weren't well within your rights?
Where were you bringing up these great points about Appia, someone you were intimately more familiar with and has been far more guilty of this type of thing?
Calling out people in a manner that is constructive is different than putting people on blast trying to point out flaws.
I displayed how those two varying purposes could be differentiated. You are being destructive.
For that matter why is this post not pointing out comprehensively anyone that's made these mistakes? Even being consistent to you charade I would expect you are preparing to make these posts about each candidate, should there be any evidence?
They are being misrepresented in that you're trying to use mistakes to define him. Instead of attempting to see if he's changed you're more interested in making sure it's simply put on blast that he's said these things.
"Kirk on the community"
The title indicates what the intent was.
backchannel/private communications? Frequently I refer?
You see, you're trying to give talking on skype a negative connotation. It's pathetic.
It's little different than people calling laws by various names to give them negative connotations and shock and awe factor.
EX: Obamacare instead of the ACA
Foodstamps vs Safety Net
You can have the last word [undoubtedly], but people won't be so easily swayed by petty attempts like this.
You can make whatever silly insinuations you like, I don't have to speculate to know why.
Hopefully one day you'll realize the value in more constructive posting because you have the capacity to effect a great amount of good bud. But this is not the best way to go about it.
Have a good one :)
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Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.17 14:22:00 -
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Using 6-20 month old statements to define a person's character though long past mistakes that recent history has demonstrated a change of character.
This type of insipid attack holds no sway over anyone reasonable.
I reiterate:
At worst the least you could do is simply promote the candidates you feel are worth your time, at best be open minded enough to get past your bias.
But simply targeting a candidate to showcase flaws? Ugh
If you can't see the difference between "Why should I vote for you, I am really concerned about X" vs "This is who this guy is and **** he did, yeah **** him as a candidate"
Kirk is so much more than the one dimensional flaws you purposed this thread to highlight and put put him on blast about.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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