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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.18 05:05:00 -
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Please tier, in your own thoughts what race you consider to be OP. Give a reason as well !
My tiers :
1) Amarr: Scramblers, Now Everyone has one.
2) Minmitar: Next to Amarr, Flying Mass Drivers.
3) Gallente: Just in the middle, not too OP not too UP
4) Caldari: Shields are UP phenomenally, Everything eats shields. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6453
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Posted - 2015.05.18 05:07:00 -
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Minmatar, have the most none underpowered suits and weapons compared to everyone else.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
714
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Posted - 2015.05.18 05:54:00 -
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Large rail turrets. They're too good at any range and defeat the purpose of missile and blaster turrets.
The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
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DDx77
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
272
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Posted - 2015.05.18 05:57:00 -
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1) Gallente
- Best scout by a wide margin (can do basically all other scouts roles)
- Best logi at level 5 (scan everything from across the map for whole team)
- 2nd best assault if you don't use a Scrambler (better native rep)
- Usable commando AV/ infantry
- maybe the worst heavy tho
2) Minmatar
- Best Assault (speed/versatile/ glitchy :)
- 2nd best logi - really does everything well/ best repper
- Best commando for Av/MassD/support
- Good heavy (before update was prob the top heavy)
- versatile fun scout (3rd best) knives bonus/hacking/ jumping
3)Amarr
- Best heavy for high HP
- Assault Debatabley better than Gal. When used with scrambler yes (better native hp but slower)
- Usable commando
- logi is somewhat versatile with sidearm but lacking at proto vs other logis
- scout weakest due to range of passive scans and slowest movement
4) Caldari
- overall weakness due to shields being well, weak
- Good scout (I think it is the 2nd best scout)
- Good heavy - somewhat of a specialist role
- weakest assault due to shield tank, terrible bonus, mediocre stats, Rail rifle having terrible kick. Role requires experienced user/player
- commando is more a specialist role (sniper?)
- logi has best slot layout but mediocre bonus and equipment config |
Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1480
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Posted - 2015.05.18 05:59:00 -
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1) Caldari - I got nothing. If you mean OP as in extremely lethal AND durable, then I can't say any of our racial fittings satisfy.
2) Minmatar - Assault and CR/ACR. Wiggle, Strafe, Spray, reap rewards. It's terrible for balance.
3) Amarr - Plated up with a logi (meh) or just reactives, but dat triple damage modded Scr/AScr. 
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
1087
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Posted - 2015.05.18 06:24:00 -
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Everything that kills me is OP, but no seriously the Minmatar Assault strafe is OP in a head on, the Scrambler Rifle is OP, and if you can use it well the Combat Rifle is OP.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
761
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Posted - 2015.05.18 06:45:00 -
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minmatar with their crack addict wiggle strafing, in addition to pray and spray weapons, noobtubes and, of course, core locus grenades...
the other races are ok..
gallente's got good suits but their weapons are not much talked about.
amarr's only got 3 weapons in the game and an useless scout.
caldari is underwhelming overall, in my opinion.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
RUST415
843
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Posted - 2015.05.18 06:46:00 -
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With the way netcode breaks hit detection I have to say Minmatar. However, were hitdetection clean and crisp I would say Amarr. And even then, depending on network conditions Amarr.
And I feel bad for the poor Caldari |
Damodred Matari
Heavy Support INC
181
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Posted - 2015.05.18 06:53:00 -
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The Vanu sovereignty Orion lmg with it 0.75 ads.
Shut fi yuh mout before mi bax yuh
Thank you for playing the wheel of fortune.
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2015.05.18 13:18:00 -
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Bump for opinions |
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1424
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Posted - 2015.05.18 13:52:00 -
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Right now, minmatar assault is breaking the hit detection because of thier scout like speed.
With fixed hit detection it would look much better.
As for now nothing is really that much op compared to other itmes and their roles.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
425
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Posted - 2015.05.18 14:08:00 -
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A rattati assault with 2 kalante assault rifles, core nade, 3 complex damage mods and tons of armor and rep. Can l anything. GALLENTE
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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IVIaster LUKE
Art.of.Death
823
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Posted - 2015.05.18 14:14:00 -
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I wish the Caldari Assault had ****** netcode and awful hit detection as our racial bonus. 
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6
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Posted - 2015.05.18 15:50:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Large rail turrets. They're too good at any range and defeat the purpose of missile and blaster turrets.
Large rail installations: think about shooting one, and it'll OHK you at any range.
Some details can be ignored
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:02:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:A rattati assault with 2 kalante assault rifles, core nade, 3 complex damage mods and tons of armor and rep. Can l anything. GALLENTE
Why 2 ARs? Seems redundant. |
Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
710
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:23:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Please tier, in your own thoughts what race you consider to be OP. Give a reason as well !
Amarr assault + scrambler rifles are horrendously OP
Amarr assault + assault scrambler rifle are pretty OP
x2 rep/x2 hardener madrugers are pretty OP
Scrambler rifles on any other suit are slightly OP
Minmatar suits are slightly OP and need to have their stamina regen lowered slightly to reduce their mobility to within sane bounds
Scrambler pistols suck
Caldari assault, logi, commando all suck, their regen stats, health, and speed are all bad and the suits excel at nothing
Shield rechargers and energizers need their CPU cost reduced (and their pg cost increased if needed for balance)
STD/ADV kincats blow and should be rebalanced in terms of both bonus and cost to make them worth using
Ion Pistol is a little underpowered and needs to be reworked to give it a niche that isnt completely overlapped by the SMG
Breach Rail Rifle is a piece of trash and needs to be buffed a bit
MagSec is a bit poopy
Amarr Scout needs to be fixed to be faster than the min assault
Shield support equipment needs to be introduced to the game in an attempt to make shields viable against dominant armor meta
Sniper rifles should be reworked to not incentivise static campy, redline play (one suggestion would be to remove sway and maybe reduce range to 200-300 meters)
And finally I wish there were diminishing returns on HP modules so that HP stacking wasnt rewarded disproportionately compared to every other fitting. |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:31:00 -
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We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? |
Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
712
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:43:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes?
Cal Scout is ok, Cal Sentinel is ok, mostly because their regen stats are really, really good at base and actually live up to the promise of shield regen.
Minmatar suits are good, even though I'd argue they are speed based, not shield based. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:43:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes?
I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right)
Otherwise, yes.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
712
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:46:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes.
Laughable claim since the tactical scrambler can output 500+ damage in the time it takes a rail rifle to charge up and even begin doing damage. Unless youre using a scrambler yourself, which is even more hilarious, because guess who can fire more, has resistance to scrambler damage, and is firing at a shield suit who is weak to them? This guy. |
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:47:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. Laughable claim since the tactical scrambler can output 500+ damage in the time it takes a rail rifle to charge up and even begin doing damage. Unless youre using a scrambler yourself, which is even more hilarious, because guess who can fire more, has resistance to scrambler damage, and is firing at a shield suit who is weak to them? This guy.
Dammit! Stop using logic on these forums! Shields are supposed to be cannon fodder I guess.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
713
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Posted - 2015.05.18 16:53:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. Laughable claim since the tactical scrambler can output 500+ damage in the time it takes a rail rifle to charge up and even begin doing damage. Unless youre using a scrambler yourself, which is even more hilarious, because guess who can fire more, has resistance to scrambler damage, and is firing at a shield suit who is weak to them? This guy. Dammit! Stop using logic on these forums! Shields are supposed to be cannon fodder I guess.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.18 17:36:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. Laughable claim since the tactical scrambler can output 500+ damage in the time it takes a rail rifle to charge up and even begin doing damage. Unless youre using a scrambler yourself, which is even more hilarious, because guess who can fire more, has resistance to scrambler damage, and is firing at a shield suit who is weak to them? This guy.
Dammit! Stop using logic on these forums! Shields are supposed to be cannon fodder I guess.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.18 18:41:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes.
My Duvolle would like to take you up on that offer. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.18 20:20:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. My Duvolle would like to take you up on that offer.
60-70 meters away? I'll take up on that also... With my Kalaakiota RR... That I don't have 
I can always get an LP one tho.
I assume you mean Duvolle TAC... Doesn't matter either way.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.05.18 20:22:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote: if you can use it well the Combat Rifle is OP.
Use it well? It's the second easiest to handle gun in the game. 
Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you
AIV member.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
850
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Posted - 2015.05.18 20:36:00 -
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I skilled into pretty much everything.
#fuckanerf
No Skill Required
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7
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Posted - 2015.05.18 21:32:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Joel II X wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. My Duvolle would like to take you up on that offer. 60-70 meters away? I'll take up on that also... With my Kalaakiota RR... That I don't have I can always get an LP one tho. I assume you mean Duvolle TAC... Doesn't matter either way.
No. Vanilla.
Don't worry, though. I can close the distance, assuming I use cover as well. |
sir RAVEN WING
3
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Posted - 2015.05.18 21:37:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Joel II X wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:We can all agree that anything shield based is basically a walking dead target, yes? I invite you to try and down me... When I have cover and about 60-70 meters between us (aka doing shields right) Otherwise, yes. My Duvolle would like to take you up on that offer. 60-70 meters away? I'll take up on that also... With my Kalaakiota RR... That I don't have I can always get an LP one tho. I assume you mean Duvolle TAC... Doesn't matter either way. No. Vanilla. Don't worry, though. I can close the distance, assuming I use cover as well.
Once he is with in 21m, he can practically OHK you, assuming he used Duvolle and you are stacking shields.
If you are not, he's wasting the one shot.
"Are you crushing them?" - Delt
"Yeah." - Medicure
"You're doing God's work son." - Delt
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1
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Posted - 2015.05.18 21:37:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Large rail turrets. They're too good at any range and defeat the purpose of missile and blaster turrets. Large rail installations: think about shooting one, and it'll OHK you at any range. I'm starting to hack those before I hack CRUs and ****, then position myself so that if I get shot at, whoever is shooting will aggro the turret and get sniped.
Those bastards get me almost everytime I forge them I think "good shooting" then see they are unmanned.
Because, that's why.
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