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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 03:35:00 -
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Carilito wrote:Back to the OP's intention for the thread please
^this. Join STB or you might regret it later. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 03:45:00 -
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Dust servers alil laggy tonight guys or was it just me///.. Shout out to regnum when u apss threw you cost me alot of money tongiht good stuff |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 03:49:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:Dust servers alil laggy tonight guys or was it just me///.. Shout out to regnum when u apss threw you cost me alot of money tongiht good stuff
If you get a chance message me on psn or dust |
STB-Quickgloves EV
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Posted - 2012.08.21 03:53:00 -
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i just got offline my wife went to bed ill b on 1pm eastern tomorow till 9 pm eastern |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 03:58:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:i just got offline my wife went to bed ill b on 1pm eastern tomorow till 9 pm eastern
So is this a second chance? |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:07:00 -
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?? um... no the second an third chance was when i followed u into threads an told u to stop the fourth was when ZionTCd told me you were rying to make an alt an join them STB doesnt do that.. we dont use or need spies. We play for respect an honor for THE BROTHERHOOD |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:08:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:?? um... no the second an third chance was when i followed u into threads an told u to stop the fourth was when ZionTCd told me you were rying to make an alt an join them STB doesnt do that.. we dont use or need spies. We play for respect an honor for THE BROTHERHOOD
Considering that somone else logged into the EV Teamspeak using my forum name and it took over 30 minutes before somone said anything about it is rather appauling to the lack of security.
This is comming from the second worst spy in New Eden. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:14:00 -
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It was a web of lies that could have worked because i planned on feeding them false info while providing accurate data to STB.
So a fith chance? |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:17:00 -
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After doing some back end work I ID'ed the responsible hes the same guy that got the innocent one kicked out. BTW the clean up a shortly back for people not showing up to the clan event you nailed about 5 sleepers so thats a start on counter intel work. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:31:00 -
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Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either. |
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either.
Wait you take people's voice prints? I'm gonna use a couple voice changers if i ever play on your team. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 04:56:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either. Wait you take people's voice prints? I'm gonna use a couple voice changers if i ever play on your team.
You're safe for now I have no way of recording dust 514 battles on the ps3 and I am not spending the money on a video/audio capture device. However open door teamspeak servers are extremly vunerable which is why I been sitting on that server for the last month shortly after I warned you guys about possible future metagaming and some of you scoffed at the idea.
Voice prints are oftenly used in counter intel. basically one reason why a counter intel officer will interview you is to match up with any known 'flags' as they're called. They also know how modulation effects the voice that uses the eve chatter. However do note that any publically supported voice changer you suggest to the entire clan will be considered as well. So if you make it a policy recommend nothing for your future infiltration agents. So there really isnt a good reason to have the voice changing stuff (most of it sucks anyways) unless you want to infiltrate corps in the future, especially the much larger allainces that pays for said device above. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 05:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either. Wait you take people's voice prints? I'm gonna use a couple voice changers if i ever play on your team. You're safe for now I have no way of recording dust 514 battles on the ps3 and I am not spending the money on a video/audio capture device. However open door teamspeak servers are extremly vunerable which is why I been sitting on that server for the last month shortly after I warned you guys about possible future metagaming and some of you scoffed at the idea. Voice prints are oftenly used in counter intel. basically one reason why a counter intel officer will interview you is to match up with any known 'flags' as they're called. They also know how modulation effects the voice that uses the eve chatter. However do note that any publically supported voice changer you suggest to the entire clan will be considered as well. So if you make it a policy recommend nothing for your future infiltration agents. So there really isnt a good reason to have the voice changing stuff (most of it sucks anyways) unless you want to infiltrate corps in the future, especially the much larger allainces that pays for said device above.
If i have to I'm ready to go deep into infiltration. I could use some tips though. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 05:59:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either. Wait you take people's voice prints? I'm gonna use a couple voice changers if i ever play on your team. You're safe for now I have no way of recording dust 514 battles on the ps3 and I am not spending the money on a video/audio capture device. However open door teamspeak servers are extremly vunerable which is why I been sitting on that server for the last month shortly after I warned you guys about possible future metagaming and some of you scoffed at the idea. Voice prints are oftenly used in counter intel. basically one reason why a counter intel officer will interview you is to match up with any known 'flags' as they're called. They also know how modulation effects the voice that uses the eve chatter. However do note that any publically supported voice changer you suggest to the entire clan will be considered as well. So if you make it a policy recommend nothing for your future infiltration agents. So there really isnt a good reason to have the voice changing stuff (most of it sucks anyways) unless you want to infiltrate corps in the future, especially the much larger allainces that pays for said device above. If i have to I'm ready to go deep into infiltration. I could use some tips though.
And there is your first mistake there. Now that this is on a semi penrament cached area somewhere people wtih the know how can google this up even if you edit it and this is where the voice print which I may or may not have earns its value.
Anyways some quick tips.
1 Mind the quarry: before latching onto a target understand the group thier relationships, activites, behavior, and phyc evalauate the people in critical positions. Being able to read people is the most important part of an infiltrator. Most of EV's leadership failed the phsyc eval and its considered the weakest part of the cirlce of trust.
2. Know your limits: I know I cannot join any serious major allaince in eve online anymore because I am flagged by every counter intel agency in that galaxy, that doest stop me form plainly walking into a corp that fails to do background checks to tear out thier hearts.
3. Blend blend blend. If the group you are going into is a bunch of @!#$bags then so be it, be a @#$%bag for the duration. Another fine example is why send in a sucky FPS/ Eve onlie pro gamer that has no business infiltrating the CoD/BF3 clan. However those who can competitivly hold thier ground does so chances are the other spies that are in Ev with me are probably both eve and rival clan players.
4. Alteregoizing. Being in two places at once is most helpful from detracting from possible leads of you being a possible agent once in. For example it be might rather suspecious I log on every time one of your members logs off. hint hint. Avoid having patterns betwen your main and your agent, make the two very unrepdictable, the less they see each other the best. the more they kill each other the semi better. Just dont screw up in fighting yourself or bad posting agiast yourself double check the trashing post to ensure its the right character and mindset in place.
Mind you these tips come from the second worst spy in eve. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Anyways when are you going ban my imposter on teamspeak thats clearly not me and him and the 6 others are probably harvesting voice prints for thier own counter intel programs. And no I am not in your team speak to listen into your battlecomms I am doing the same thing as them harvesting voice prints they sell for quite alot to the right agencies.
I take that back looks like a probe, and becuase you dont trust people to delegate responsibilities it also seems you dont have the team speak manager on speed dial either. Wait you take people's voice prints? I'm gonna use a couple voice changers if i ever play on your team. You're safe for now I have no way of recording dust 514 battles on the ps3 and I am not spending the money on a video/audio capture device. However open door teamspeak servers are extremly vunerable which is why I been sitting on that server for the last month shortly after I warned you guys about possible future metagaming and some of you scoffed at the idea. Voice prints are oftenly used in counter intel. basically one reason why a counter intel officer will interview you is to match up with any known 'flags' as they're called. They also know how modulation effects the voice that uses the eve chatter. However do note that any publically supported voice changer you suggest to the entire clan will be considered as well. So if you make it a policy recommend nothing for your future infiltration agents. So there really isnt a good reason to have the voice changing stuff (most of it sucks anyways) unless you want to infiltrate corps in the future, especially the much larger allainces that pays for said device above. If i have to I'm ready to go deep into infiltration. I could use some tips though. And there is your first mistake there. Now that this is on a semi penrament cached area somewhere people wtih the know how can google this up even if you edit it and this is where the voice print which I may or may not have earns its value. Anyways some quick tips. 1 Mind the quarry: before latching onto a target understand the group thier relationships, activites, behavior, and phyc evalauate the people in critical positions. Being able to read people is the most important part of an infiltrator. Most of EV's leadership failed the phsyc eval and its considered the weakest part of the cirlce of trust. 2. Know your limits: I know I cannot join any serious major allaince in eve online anymore because I am flagged by every counter intel agency in that galaxy, that doest stop me form plainly walking into a corp that fails to do background checks to tear out thier hearts. 3. Blend blend blend. If the group you are going into is a bunch of @!#$bags then so be it, be a @#$%bag for the duration. Another fine example is why send in a sucky FPS/ Eve onlie pro gamer that has no business infiltrating the CoD/BF3 clan. However those who can competitivly hold thier ground does so chances are the other spies that are in Ev with me are probably both eve and rival clan players. 4. Alteregoizing. Being in two places at once is most helpful from detracting from possible leads of you being a possible agent once in. For example it be might rather suspecious I log on every time one of your members logs off. hint hint. Avoid having patterns betwen your main and your agent, make the two very unrepdictable, the less they see each other the best. the more they kill each other the semi better. Just dont screw up in fighting yourself or bad posting agiast yourself double check the trashing post to ensure its the right character and mindset in place.
I am by no means foolish enough to put my agent on the same email so tracking me will be harder than others. I've only played the eve demo and some would consider me a formidable foe in most fps's. Reading people is easy to me because i knew since yesterday Zion didn't trust me but i doubted they would shoot themselves in the foot by ratting out their "informant"
Teach me wise one, and i shall use this knowledge.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:34:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Teach me wise one, and i shall use this knowledge.
Well first lesson in spying? Finding learning to find the other spies. I've talked to the other agents that are already infiltrated they're not members of Soki the organization I hail to. The fact nobody ratted my own inserted agent yet to your loyalist means I have been so far successful with this. Of course I am not too good at hiding either, two agents from {redacted} ID'ed me real quick and started the convo discussing my purpose there and basically we agreed to not to interfere with each other too much, so i still obviously suck at Infiltration.
Independent spies are by far the hardest to ID' simply because they dont play by a certain rule book thier own agency trians them by. This is why Soki agents are the absolute hardest to find or ID becuase of decentralizatoin and end user translation of the training given albit very cryptic its almost very safe to say most Soki agents are self trained.
This is however a never ending game so to say spies get better methoods for figuring them out is also refined, but as most people in this part of metagaming everyone has thier own notebook and each on fo them is flawed.
Either way once you find your first few spies successfully you sit down and have to think... why did they get caught? Some answers you come up with will distrub you if you're beginning to think agent minded, however the amount of paranioa I am seeing in your group this is not the right question to be asking atm it may spiral it into self destruct.
Then you have to figure out what sort of damage spies can do. You're dealing with the most public of attacks now in the group which is nothing more than probing and part of the phsyc evaluations. These are throw away agents, they dont care if you delete them. These are deployed late game however.
Early game deployment is Observer agents, they just passivly record information back to thier owners or thier own nefarious ends, passwords to fourums, public pages, policies, those sort of things, they are inserted earliest as possible to avoide suspicion when the later attacks happen. The other early game agent is the sleeper, which at least you have some policy in getting rid of by clearing out old unused alts that never seem to log on anymore. These guys wait for the right day to log on to be nasty. Chances are however they typcially miss the party day when one agent does it first befor everyone else.
Once observer agents have either done thier job and done a good enough job to pretend to be your best friend then mid game is put into play where the agency starts to deploy agents that will do the most harm. Sabatours, Deceivers, and Overlords. Sabatours are the kind that is your best friend until they backstab you. They will delete your clan if given the chance and steal all of your armory and sell your territory to the highest bidder. They oftenly get into leadership positions becuase you trust them that much and they make you think your his best friends to.
Deceivers or diverters are the kind that subtly increases corproate drama, if done well they dont need to say a word publically at all. One simple case is pointing out (as in not lying but acutally do pointing it out) how one team member didnt do thier fair share and blame the last match on them. This may result in the team arguing and a key chance to see how the first guy thinks of others. Once queued up the agent will then 'further' encourage the bad behavior that has always existed but kept under covers.
Finally the Overlord. This is by far the most damaging type of agent rather masterful one too. Because hes your CEO of your corp.
Late game agents are however what you're currently experince it seems, they're only there to cause further confusion, increase the feeling of lost control, chaos and the general sorts, makes it much much easier to get midgame agents promoted to 'certain' positions.
This is alot to digest in one night read it digest it a bit and maybe you can mold something better. Take what I say with a grain of salt and a pound of mud.
This is only what I share from personal experince as I myself was originlly just an observer type that was forced to be sabatour becuase of tighter restrictions during war time and comming from the second worst spy in eve online. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:38:00 -
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also being able to find gems like these are things spies are looking for I mean cmon its supposed to be deleted yet anyone can access this page.
http://d3ltaforc3.shivtr.com/news_entries/65693?#comment_1736742 |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:43:00 -
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Thank you. This info will really help me in the full game. You sir have earned a small amount of isk in the full game and is there anything else I should know that you don't want everyone to know? |
thereal herbzula
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:53:00 -
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You EVE people and you silly spy games you play. I think it is so funny |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:55:00 -
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thereal herbzula wrote:You EVE people and you silly spy games you play. I think it is so funny
If you're not in a corp it's hilarious. Otherwise... |
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:57:00 -
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thereal herbzula wrote:You EVE people and you silly spy games you play. I think it is so funny
Silly until somone wakes up and thier empire built over two years is gone. Right now we're just watching the deathroes of an allaince that hopefully when smashed to peices will form into something stronger, well that's Soki's hope, others care not to see its fragments reassemble in any manner to some extent I agree with. Currernt prospects bets that majority of leadership in question of being the weak points will rage quit for good, members will continue without them and likely under different names as they will be too bitter or betrayed by those they had followed.
Intel and Counter Intel has cause more damage than any single bullet ever did in eve online could ever had done. Every major war in new eden rarely ended in surrender and conquest. Civil unrest, backstabbing and fallout are the most common reasons that every corp fails though and that is the ammunition spies use.
Its how you goto sleep one day empire a buzzing and getting a call 4am in the morning from your best ingame friend telling you everything is gone. |
thereal herbzula
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:01:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:thereal herbzula wrote:You EVE people and you silly spy games you play. I think it is so funny If you're not in a corp it's hilarious. Otherwise...
I played Eve, and still thought it was so funny |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:thereal herbzula wrote:You EVE people and you silly spy games you play. I think it is so funny Silly until somone wakes up and thier empire built over two years is gone. Right now we're just watching the deathroes of an allaince that hopefully when smashed to peices will form into something stronger, well that's Soki's hope, others care not to see its fragments reassemble in any manner to some extent I agree with. Currernt prospects bets that majority of leadership in question of being the weak points will rage quit for good, members will continue without them and likely under different names as they will be too bitter or betrayed by those they had followed. Intel and Counter Intel has cause more damage than any single bullet ever did in eve online could ever had done. Every major war in new eden rarely ended in surrender and conquest. Civil unrest, backstabbing and fallout are the most common reasons that every corp fails though and that is the ammunition spies use.
After i get enough isk or aur I'm just gonna kick back with friends in high sec drinking quafe in a titan because as fun as deceiving people is, i gotta retire some day but now it's too early to plan for what might not happen. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:06:00 -
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Yeah just sucks when your empire was audted at trillions and blam gone the next day.
I mean cmon throwing multiple 70 billion isk into the fire is merely appauling to most dust 514 people, hell I dont think all of dust 514 has earned enough for one full fit titan yet. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Yeah just sucks when your empire was audted at trillions and blam gone the next day.
I mean cmon throwing multiple 70 billion isk into the fire is merely appauling to most dust 514 people, hell I dont think all of dust 514 has earned enough for one full fit titan yet.
Corps constantly brag about there eve connections so expect the isk to be plenty but i doubt enough in one group to buy a Titan |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:16:00 -
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And to think we're blowing up an MCC every skirmish match, those are 100 million a pop to build the hull for the XL guns on them are probably a million each.
Then the faciliteis oh the facilites they're just as expensive and if the enemy wanted to be a kitten they blow it up after capping it. |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And to think we're blowing up an MCC every skirmish match, those are 100 million a pop to build the hull for the XL guns on them are probably a million each.
Then the faciliteis oh the facilites they're just as expensive and if the enemy wanted to be a kitten they blow it up after capping it.
Possibly in null but i doubt we'll see them much elsewhere |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 12:58:00 -
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Yo vermak an wolf saber please move your conversation to another thread STB does not condone any of the things you are speaking of here so please leave be an adult an move to a new thread. Niether of you are in STB ..so leave the STB thread please
Ps about your sleeper agent.. well we know a lawyer lies until he dies but does he die from all his lies?
We know who is who but it doesnt matter we like playing with them an were not trying t hide anything i dont get why people think were bieng secretvie an we know its kegfna in out vent chat i called him out yesterday morning about it . No big deal we noved on
Only thing we dont want it people joining who are going to b counter productive. we are on chat to try out loadouts discuss mechanics an work togther q syncing.. anyhow meet us b4 negative presumptions are made.. |
Kengfa
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:09:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:Yo vermak an wolf saber please move your conversation to another thread STB does not condone any of the things you are speaking of here so please leave be an adult an move to a new thread. Niether of you are in STB ..so leave the STB thread please
Ps about your sleeper agent.. well we know a lawyer lies until he dies but does he die from all his lies?
We know who is who but it doesnt matter we like playing with them an were not trying t hide anything i dont get why people think were bieng secretvie an we know its kegfna in out vent chat i called him out yesterday morning about it . No big deal we noved on
Only thing we dont want it people joining who are going to b counter productive. we are on chat to try out loadouts discuss mechanics an work togther q syncing.. anyhow meet us b4 negative presumptions are made..
The only reason you know is because I told you. And the only reason i told you is because all of you have terrible southern drawls and I can't stand having to listen to your voices. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:20:00 -
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Kengfa your trolling is more entertaining than anything else. Please continue. |
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