why do people dislike proto stompers, weve all earnt what have so why are we not allowed to use it

why do people dislike proto stompers, weve all earnt what have so why are we not allowed to use it

Protostomping isn't about just wearing a proto suit.

well some time has gone buy so I don't know how much the effect has worn down, but most 'proto-stompers' did NOT earn it. The skill points to run proto was earned, but the old major corps got to cash in on hundreds of millions (if not billions) of free ISK while the original PC mechanics were broken. Large corps could get a couple territories and "lock" them and they would generate enough free ISK for a lifetime, basically for doing nothing. Hence, there were those who just simply earned free money and could constantly run squads of full proto gear and stomp the daylights out the rest of the casual players who had to grind their ISK the hard (and appropriate) way.

A while back it got irritating for people to run lower level gear (to save money to use for their future proto uses) while others could just come in and stomp you to death with their unlimited and unfair incomes.

Running proto is one thing, but if that's all you run then that begs the question: How did you get the money for all that? It's nice when you can run cheaper gear to build some wealth without the headache of "proto stompers" coming in with their unlimited wealth and slaughtering you when you're just looking for a few casual games.

CCP has made changes to prevent this unfair ISK building through PC lately and I'm sure it helps, but the damage done in the past still lingers today.

By all means go ahead. With better matchmaking, people who are capable of using protoype gear are more often than not fighting each other.

It was a very big deal until very recently, when stompers whould crush new players relentlessly into the ground. It's partly the reason why matchmaking takes so long now, very few newberries stuck around after going 0-15, so player count never grew. We'll have to wait and see if player numbers can actually recover, but it may be too little to late.

Here's a population graph, for reference.

i earnt all my 125 mil isk form scratch all my 25 mil sp from scratch( all from pubs) no handouts, i have never been in a corp nor a squad i have only played for 8 months. i did have to run cheaper gear to make my money initially but than only got 50% of the way.

Those charts are not reliable any more. The switch in console generations has forced the decline over the last half year, as you can see starting in August. People started trying to trade in their consoles to get better turn-in value for the trade up to the Playstation 4.

Think about this your on a team with a protostomper and you just wanna play and get some kills. He is way faster than you and has a higher survivability with stronger guns. How do you feel when in the EoM screen he has about 50 kill with no deaths and you have only 2. Also you have about 20 assists, oh my gawd this dude has been kill stealing.



Think about this on the flipside. You jump in a battle and you wish to play against people with equal grade gear to keep the game fun. You go hack a point and your team guards it for a minute. A dude in Assault mK.0 with Six Kin ACR comes and destroys your team. You shrug it off and redeploy. Seconds later your shot to death by the same person. You redeploy again, seconds later shot again. This will cause your KDR to drop (Even if u dont care about it like me) and cause a negative net in isk in the end. Do you wanna play a game where all you do is die, respawn and let the same person kill you?

i earnt all my 125 mil isk form scratch all my 25 mil sp from scratch( all from pubs) no handouts, i have never been in a corp nor a squad i have only played for 8 months. i did have to run cheaper gear to make my money initially but than only got 50% of the way.

Think about this your on a team with a protostomper and you just wanna play and get some kills. He is way faster than you and has a higher survivability with stronger guns. How do you feel when in the EoM screen he has about 50 kill with no deaths and you have only 2. Also you have about 20 assists, oh my gawd this dude has been kill stealing.

Think about this on the flipside. You jump in a battle and you wish to play against people with equal grade gear to keep the game fun. You go hack a point and your team guards it for a minute. A dude in Assault mK.0 with Six Kin ACR comes and destroys your team. You shrug it off and redeploy. Seconds later your shot to death by the same person. You redeploy again, seconds later shot again. This will cause your KDR to drop (Even if u dont care about it like me) and cause a negative net in isk in the end. Do you wanna play a game where all you do is die, respawn and let the same person kill you?

Just be glad it's not an all-out Officer stomp mainly because those are extremely expensive. Some people are running around in officer suits fitted with officer stuff totaling in the hundreds of the thousands (if not a couple of million) ISK.

My problem is that i no longer have a choice to run high meta gear or not. Proto is a requirement for pubs just to be competitive. You can run low grade gear & die often (which i do, barely ever run over 300ehp) or run proto & hold your own. Even the amount of officer gear in pubs is disheartening.

why do people dislike proto stompers, weve all earnt what have so why are we not allowed to use it

I completely agree. As I was explaining above you, the term is more aimed at the people who amassed huge fortunes via broken mechanics and constantly use proto against people who don't have the cash to counter them. Using proto gear should be a luxury that you save up for to use on special occasions or when you're in the mood. Proto stompers are kind of like the rich kids who were born into rich families yet pick on you for being broke when they really did nothing special to earn their high quality stuff themselves.- just an analogy- Or even like taking steroids and beating up on someone small, but then claiming there's nothing wrong with it cuz they could work hard and get strong too.

Bottom line, if you use proto ALL the time, we want to know how you got all that cash cuz (at least a while back) it wasn't like you were grinding it like the average citizen; you likely used an exploit to become strong and beat up on the weak. This is where "protostomping" came from, and as I said, it was usually full squads of the big corps (wearing all proto) taking advantage of the weak. Also, I think this fact really hurt the number of players and quality of the game when it should have been in it's prime time to make a name for itself.

CCP really took a dump on itself with that one and this game still is the most unforgiving for new players to try to join in on. Could you imagine being a new player just now starting for the first time? You would be extremely disadvantaged. On that note, new players should start with like 10 mil SP or they won't stick around more than a few fights (unless they're diehards and they only play cuz it's free)

why are we not allowed to use it