Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2070
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:50:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Militia junk is a small problem. It's bad equipment and will result in the players doing poorly against good players. So there is a faucet effect, but its minimal -- especially when competent matchmaking filters out these bad players.
With APEX the situation is different. Good players can abuse many APEX suits and do incredibly well. This gives it a large faucet effect.
An unchecked faucet is highly damaging to economy. In a game where all you are doing is buying from an NPC market, this can be forgiven. However that is not Dusts stated design. It's not supposed to be that way, and with every update we move further away from that. The concept of APEX is poisonous to the direction the game is heading.
It is also poisonous to the concept of schadenfreude, which is supposed to be the defining meta of Dust as well as EVE. The game was supposed to get an ISK destruction stat to make people feel good every time they secure a kill. It's one of the reasons the devs originally took the BPO's out of the game in the first place, despite all of the complaints to Sony that happened afterwards. They recognized it was a necessary step to forging the proper public metagame, as well as economy.
Rattati effectively reversed their efforts and made that fallout from that decision be entirely in vain. He did this because the team was scrambling to find something -- anything -- that would sell. They were that close to getting the lights turned off and Dust shut down. More methods of monetization have come since, and its no longer necessary for APEX to exist.
Ergo, APEX is trash and should be removed from the game. If that isn't possible, then its use needs to be tied to a resource that can deplete. Something that can be tied in ISK in some manner, and can be measured when it is destroyed. Another piece to place onto the big board of Dust truths and very well said , I have been saying similar for sometime now . I wouldn't want to remove them though because it's RW currency and needed content but it needs to have a stacking penalty so to speak like lower payouts .. there just isn't any incentive to use what's on the market besides BPO items with the weapons , suits now that are customizable and talks about vehicles ... if your going to incorporate tiericide then just do it and stop trying to backdoor someone because people like me are against that concept and this goes along again with following certain suggestions that take away the advantages of playing this game and it knocks this game to the level of the majority that's on the market meaning besides New Eden , nothing does or will stand out , pretty soon vanilla mechanics , gameplay , items and suits because Dust has zero originality anymore from following the pack instead of becoming the leaders and the game play suffers for it .
But go ahead , it seems to be working so far for the " rebirth " of this game .
This is stupid to discuss , if you don't see what's wrong with this whole notion then ... what could be said .?. risk & reward ... gone , content ... gone , originality .... gone , I mean why have isk then .?. just make everything LP based and have everything bought with LP's but not faction LP it's game play LP's ... the more you play the more you make because isk isn't a factor for those who have 2 or more of these suits regardless of how they were obtained , LP's or Aurum .
If you got them with LP's it wasn't like you didn't spend some Aurum to get them because FW payouts are crappy and like girl alt toons being able to strafe better , everyone know this , so again ... it's paying for something that has a negative impact on the game's structure .. socioeconomic .
Why have isk ? There is no economy because of this .
Doubts are like bothersome flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2070
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:53:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:these complaints show who is unwilling to put in the work or the $$$ to get apex I've got the FW APEX. It's a money maker. It's also completely broken because it ruins the entire concept of risk vs reward which is the most important pillar of new eden. Still the worst thing to ever happen to this game. This simply made it a little more worse. I barely have 150 mil and I cant remember a time where any of my 3 accounts had to think about risk vs reward? Perhaps 10% of the dust populus is playing that imaginary game you speak of. For one , it's easier to talk like this while playing in a corp and in squads ... your right , there is no risk & reward for you because your masked behind others ... for solo players it's different .. also you have an APEX so that's money hand over fist so , yeah your right .
You wouldn't know .
Doubts are like bothersome flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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