You shouldn't ever have to be required to use something. Using a particular module should make a certain aspect of the game easier to deal with, but it shouldn't be required to be able to deal with it. The sound alert is the only way to tell if there are proxies or not if you don't have a scanner.

Your idea is basically like saying to remove everyone's ability to hack and to require everyone to put on a hacking module in order to be able to hack.

If you are so worried that proxies are useless (which they aren't from a pilot's point of view), then be glad we don't have battlefield's system where they get passively scanned for you in your line of sight out to a dozen meters or so.

Completely agree, how can it be a trap if they have multiple warnings for it?

Proxies are pretty useless period.

You need a combination of 6 active proxy/ Re to kill or do serious damage to a tank

I do not understand why the devs have bandwidth on Remotes and proxies

So, having the ability to detect proxies for free is fine yeah? I have to use a scanner to detect a scout, cos lord knows that passives on an assault aren't ever gonna get close unless you stack 3 precision enhancers, and even then its a stretch.

Also my idea is nowhere near comparable to removing peoples ability to hack, you have a built in warning system and on top of that the ability to scan them. So not only can you see them you get a nice Beeping sound when they are near. Everyones dropsuit doesnt have a built in warning for remotes, why should a tank get one because its a tank?

You can hear it driving along normally. Dont talk rubbish mate. Also on to the other point, REs stick to anything, they can be hidden better than proxies, Proxies hardly blend in and even if they did, there is only one place they could be and thats on the road. The warning sound should be removed cos, lets face it you dont need an on-board scanner to pick them up if you're in a squad with a logi or two, they'll have a scanner and can pick them up for you.

You really trying to tell me I'm talking rubbish? I know you can hear the beeping sound and I know for a fact they don't blend in. I've seen tankers roll up, no scanners and no scan warning on me and shoot them.
Pilots have the tools to find them and if you can't hear the sound, then what's the problem with removing it?

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either get rid of the noise or make them invisible to the naked eye

No players do not deserve another "Fire/Place and Forget" weapon that is incredibly powerful which Proxies are when 4+ detonate under you. You want to keep tanks at bay? Actively control the battlefield. Proxies in this sense should be more of a hindrance/ way to cut of escape routes.

Yet another QQ request from the forums.

Putting them in proper locations is a learned skill, apparently. Cause I pop vehicles with proxies. Even damage still gives the +75WP fan favorite.

Make scanners included equipment for all vehicles. Just for balance.

Although I meant that as sarcasm that is actually a good idea for derp ships.

I pop them too, but the fact that the have a built in way to detect them is silly. If you want to know where proxies are use a scanner.

You shouldn't ever have to be required to use something. Using a particular module should make a certain aspect of the game easier to deal with, but it shouldn't be required to be able to deal with it. The sound alert is the only way to tell if there are proxies or not if you don't have a scanner.

Your idea is basically like saying to remove everyone's ability to hack and to require everyone to put on a hacking module in order to be able to hack.

If you are so worried that proxies are useless (which they aren't from a pilot's point of view), then be glad we don't have battlefield's system where they get passively scanned for you in your line of sight out to a dozen meters or so.

I'll trade you no warning sound for proxies for getting rid of frisbee REs and OP swarms.

Not all tanks can afford to.

Currently the Shield HAV cannot afford to sub out a core tank module unless it is on a weapons modification module as it would make the fitting sub optimal. The Minmatar HAV pilots are going to be in even more of a pickle if the Min HAV is a primary Shield tank with only 4 Highs and Nothing worth fitting beyond armour mods in the lows.

Without that noise, unless eye balling it or a friendly performing scans, they'd never know proxies were there.

Using one high slot to make sure you don't get done by a proxy field is not going to gimp a fit. Shield tanks are just outclassed at the moment.
Also Res are barely detectable and I have a way to find them. It's called a scanner. If I have to use one to find remotes, vehicle users should have to use scanners to find proxies. How is that not fair?

It's easy to spot remotes as infantry. When you're about to hack a point, look around you for a few seconds and you will spot REs a great majority of the time. They are these rather big black lumps with faint goldish lights to them.

But if you're in a HAV, proxies are these tiny black dots which you only see if you know that they are there or got very lucky. If you're infantry and you spot a remote, you're usually in the lethal blast radius but you don't get killed because they don't activate on proximity. For HAVs, however, proxies blow up on you in proximity, which is usually when you hear the sound alert. So basically, HAVs really only identify a proxy patch when it's already blown up.

The only times we identify proxy patches (without activating them in the process) is either through luck or through bad placement. Luck can be stopping just short of proxies but within the alert radius, or driving off to the side and skimming the edge of the patch. Bad placement is usually around sharp corners, where we have to slow down and will either give us enough time to react or overshoot and skim the patch from a large turn radius.

Yeah, I've been using RE's and more often than not, if you place them in a straight away, the tank won't even know what hit it before it's to late. More so with an LAV.

I myself more often run into them before I hear that beep. More people need to use these things, they are amazing. (More so that proto RE's allow 9 to be held at a time)