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Godin Thekiller wrote:

Knightshade Belladonna wrote:

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Anvil 1 wrote:

To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens.
They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance.

Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market.

This is nothing but New Eden at its finest.

Interesting that you mention this, as I was just thinking...that a bunch of these scams, may indeed not be scams.. but alts of 3rd party people, trying to set up the market of 3rd party.. they are usually quick to jump in right after the posts..well should use 3rd party, **** your 3rd party..lol

If you don't want to be safe, suffer.

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Anvil 1 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:31:00 - [1] - Quote This post really belongs in the Trade, but anywho.. CCP really needs to get their act together, If people are getting scammed, INSTEAD of ignoring the problem and trying to hope it dissipates sooner or later how about actually setting up an ability to activly trade, to chose, and have both players confirm the trade to ensure a proper trade instead of this pathetic "Middle-Man" required trade. This would literally save the forums time from putting scammers names up. Oh yeah, by the way, gonna fix the dropship issues with RDVs blowing them up within the next 2 years or so? Cause I've lost so many Proto, and Aur based vehicles to the point it's not worth risking them to RDV issues and over powered damage falls from RDV Reqs. Another lovely idea, if the vehicle is being dropped from the RDV and you wish to recall it, you should be able to recall it quicker while in your redline. I dunno these would kind of be smart to address..
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1024	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:34:00 - [2] - Quote CCP has said scamming is a legit action and it is up to the players to take the risks. PIE Lasers4life Oh am I part of a cure? Or am I part of the disease?
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:36:00 - [3] - Quote ESPA+æOL ESPA+æOL ESPA+æOL ESPA+æOL PERROSSSSSSS "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Anvil 1 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:36:00 - [4] - Quote The logic behind that is so absurd and moronic it alost makes me cringe, this game is yet to amaze me though, there isn't anything surprising about that to be honest.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1315	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:37:00 - [5] - Quote go ahead and file a petition to CCP that you got scammed, foam at the mouth a little in it too. They will have a nice laugh as they pass it around the room during beer thirty break
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:37:00 - [6] - Quote ESPA+æOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1594	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:39:00 - [7] - Quote Its New Eden scamming is legit HTFU FOR THE STATE!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6158	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:40:00 - [8] - Quote CCP encourages players to do all sorts of underhanded things to each other. That's kinda the point of New Eden. Seriously the ** that happens in Dust is NOTHING compared to the hilarious shenanigans people do in EVE. You have NO idea. So no, they're not ignoring scamming and hoping it will go away, they're fully prepared and willing to let it continue. Now should a more secure contract system be on the roadmap? Absolutely, and it is. But even with a contract system, all sorts of scams will still exist and I guarantee CCP will fully allow it. To avoid getting scammed, don't fall for scams. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Anvil 1 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:40:00 - [9] - Quote To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance.
Username Alpha Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:43:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP encourages players to do all sorts of underhanded things to each other. That's kinda the point of New Eden. Seriously the ** that happens in Dust is NOTHING compared to the hilarious shenanigans people do in EVE. You have NO idea. So no, they're not ignoring scamming and hoping it will go away, they're fully prepared and willing to let it continue. Now should a more secure contract system be on the roadmap? Absolutely, and it is. But even with a contract system, all sorts of scams will still exist and I guarantee CCP will fully allow it. To avoid getting scammed, don't fall for scams.** What I'm curious about is why they chose to implement this instead of contracts, or anything else where you can conclude an actual transaction. There's HTFU and there's just FU.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8353	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:45:00 - [11] - Quote Something is missing from all of these scam protest posts. I know there's supposed to be something here. An indefinable... thing. It's definitely missing. There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6158	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:45:00 - [12] - Quote Anvil 1 wrote: To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance. Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market. This is nothing but New Eden at its finest. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 6053	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:46:00 - [13] - Quote Anvil 1 wrote: This post really belongs in the Trade, but anywho.. CCP really needs to get their act together, If people are getting scammed, INSTEAD of ignoring the problem and trying to hope it dissipates sooner or later how about actually setting up an ability to activly trade, to chose, and have both players confirm the trade to ensure a proper trade instead of this pathetic "Middle-Man" required trade. This would literally save the forums time from putting scammers names up. Oh yeah, by the way, gonna fix the dropship issues with RDVs blowing them up within the next 2 years or so? Cause I've lost so many Proto, and Aur based vehicles to the point it's not worth risking them to RDV issues and over powered damage falls from RDV Reqs. Another lovely idea, if the vehicle is being dropped from the RDV and you wish to recall it, you should be able to recall it quicker while in your redline. I dunno these would kind of be smart to address.. Hello forums warriors, you are welcome to post names to the Dust Market Trello so people stop bitching about clogging up space on the forums. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16322	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:46:00 - [14] - Quote I can't believe nobody said this yet. Welcome to New Eden. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:46:00 - [15] - Quote a-sdnajda "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6158	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:47:00 - [16] - Quote Username Alpha wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP encourages players to do all sorts of underhanded things to each other. That's kinda the point of New Eden. Seriously the ** that happens in Dust is NOTHING compared to the hilarious shenanigans people do in EVE. You have NO idea. So no, they're not ignoring scamming and hoping it will go away, they're fully prepared and willing to let it continue. Now should a more secure contract system be on the roadmap? Absolutely, and it is. But even with a contract system, all sorts of scams will still exist and I guarantee CCP will fully allow it. To avoid getting scammed, don't fall for scams. What I'm curious about is why they chose to implement this instead of contracts, or anything else where you can conclude an actual transaction. There's HTFU and there's just FU. Because this could be implemented sooner and Rattati felt that getting something now was better than nothing now, even if a more robust system is in the works for later implementation? Like seriously if you don't like the risk, either don't trade until a more secure system is in place, or use one of the several 3rd party escrow services that are popping up all over the place. it's not like someone is shoving a gun to your head and forcing you to trade just because the ability to do so has presented itself. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:47:00 - [17] - Quote a+¦sjahsuasvuasvdasdasbdaso .i. "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Patrick57 10025	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:48:00 - [18] - Quote welcome to new eden
Elpedo Hughes Dead Man's Game RUST415 131	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:49:00 - [19] - Quote Username Alpha wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP encourages players to do all sorts of underhanded things to each other. That's kinda the point of New Eden. Seriously the ** that happens in Dust is NOTHING compared to the hilarious shenanigans people do in EVE. You have NO idea. So no, they're not ignoring scamming and hoping it will go away, they're fully prepared and willing to let it continue. Now should a more secure contract system be on the roadmap? Absolutely, and it is. But even with a contract system, all sorts of scams will still exist and I guarantee CCP will fully allow it. To avoid getting scammed, don't fall for scams.** What I'm curious about is why they chose to implement this instead of contracts, or anything else where you can conclude an actual transaction. There's HTFU and there's just FU. They already had the code for give isk, they probably just copied and pasted it then tweaked it a little. Remember this isn't their code either as most of the original dev team were sacked/left etc. I know c++ (computer language) and it's 10x harder to alter someone elese code than your own. My Officer and BPOs for Sale
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1322	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:49:00 - [20] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Anvil 1 wrote: To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance. Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market. This is nothing but New Eden at its finest. Interesting that you mention this, as I was just thinking...that a bunch of these scams, may indeed not be scams.. but alts of 3rd party people, trying to set up the market of 3rd party.. they are usually quick to jump in right after the posts..well should use 3rd party, **** your 3rd party..lol

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1277	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:50:00 - [21] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: CCP has said scamming is a legit action and it is up to the players to take the risks. That doesn't mean half ass a trade system, they sure didn't do it in EVE. It's just a poorly thought out system not a means to add a twist to the game. Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6161	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:51:00 - [22] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Anvil 1 wrote: To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance. Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market. This is nothing but New Eden at its finest. Interesting that you mention this, as I was just thinking...that a bunch of these scams, may indeed not be scams.. but alts of 3rd party people, trying to set up the market of 3rd party.. they are usually quick to jump in right after the posts..well should use 3rd party, ** your 3rd party..lol I love your tinfoil. Let that paranoia flow through you. As for me, i don't deal with that market , too much work for my taste. However I do enjoy watching what people come up with on both sides. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:52:00 - [23] - Quote ESPA+æOL "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3146	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:54:00 - [24] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Anvil 1 wrote: To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance. Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market. This is nothing but New Eden at its finest. Interesting that you mention this, as I was just thinking...that a bunch of these scams, may indeed not be scams.. but alts of 3rd party people, trying to set up the market of 3rd party.. they are usually quick to jump in right after the posts..well should use 3rd party, **** your 3rd party..lol If you don't want to be safe, suffer. Top lel
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1294	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:57:00 - [25] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Forever ETC wrote: CCP has said scamming is a legit action and it is up to the players to take the risks. That doesn't mean half ass a trade system, they sure didn't do it in EVE. It's just a poorly thought out system not a means to add a twist to the game. EVE has been around longer and has a bigger dev team. I'll just let that sink into your head for a bit. Today's special: PAIN Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1322	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:59:00 - [26] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Anvil 1 wrote: To set a clarification statement, I wasn't scammed or anything in that area, CCP needs to realize they're ignoing community and making up basically the clean up crew for what happens. They can prevent scamming by taking my idea and probably others most likely stated it prior, and actually use it instead of being blessed for ignorance. Actually what they're doing is making peer to peer trading dangerous and thus encouraging 3rd party groups to set up escrow services in order to provide secure and reliable trading for a fee. In other words, this has instantly added and additional level of meta game play and is setting the stage for further iterations of a player driven market. This is nothing but New Eden at its finest. Interesting that you mention this, as I was just thinking...that a bunch of these scams, may indeed not be scams.. but alts of 3rd party people, trying to set up the market of 3rd party.. they are usually quick to jump in right after the posts..well should use 3rd party, ** your 3rd party..lol If you don't want to be safe, suffer. exactly, it's on me. Guess what though, 5 successful trades so far and nothing bit me. I'm not new to this , I have been scammed, and have done some very lucrative scamming myself in Eve, my best being around 13 billion for a week of bullshitting a gullible corp. I never once used a 3rd party, only time I'd reccomend it is if you are spending a huge amount. Our corp in Eve did once use chribba for a 3rd party for a Super Carrier trade...because that *** was hell-a-expensive
gttuiilk Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2015.05.02 21:02:00 - [27] - Quote .I. "Perdono pero nunca Olvido" I Love You Mimmatar.Combate
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6161	Posted - 2015.05.02 21:03:00 - [28] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: exactly, it's on me. Guess what though, 5 successful trades so far and nothing bit me. I'm not new to this **, I have been scammed, and have done some very lucrative scamming myself in Eve, my best being around 13 billion for a week of bullshitting a gullible corp. I never once used a 3rd party, only time I'd reccomend it is if you are spending a huge amount. Our corp in Eve did once use chribba for a 3rd party for a Super Carrier trade...because that * was hell-a-expensive And that's what really makes this kind of gameplay awesome. It's chaotic and messy but it gives you options with various levels of risk involved with each. I mean regardless of your personal opinion of 3rd party services, you have to admit that that kind of player driven gameplay is part of what makes New Eden great. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net


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