Tell me sir? What, exactly, can you get done with the gal logi at standard? With only 2 low, no high, 1 weapon slot, and 3 equipment?

I'll tell you my view. Dying in a suicidal link spam suit. Not enough high and low slots to be proficient at any one thing. Whether that be speed, tank, ewar, etc. At advanced you have a 2/3/3 equipment setup, but I suggest staying tight with the squad. Yes you can perform, but in my experience you're the guy everyone's trying to carry.

However, at lvl 5 this suit makes a miraculous leap to 3/5/4 equipment? At this level it actually performs extremely well, and the bonuses are awesome! Why wouldn't I want the standard to have 1/3/3 equipment slot layout for similar results?

Now mind you, at standard level the min logi has 2/2/3 equipment? One may argue the ehp lower, but in the logi class all ehp is low?!

I would like my four low/high anyway I can get them. Not because I want to be OP, but because economically it's better for me. Do you run it at standard?

Not being combative, but I myself had to stop bashing others for requesting slight improvements in their respective classes simply because I don't run them, and understand their plight.

Also, this doesn't address the fact that the gal slots ARE short in comparison to other logis

I have 70+ mil SP lol! Cores lol!

Heck, the minmatar one that everyone loves has the exact same progression as the assault and no one is complaining about that.

I agree with OP.

I don't really mind how Cal logi's slots are arranged, so long as they have the correct number in all tiers, and have enough CPU to fit energisers and regulators, without a CPU enhancer.

I don't agree with increasing the equipment fitting bonus, it's enough already. Even with an assault/logi speed swap, I find it very unlikely a logi could sacrifice equipment to become a better slayer than an assault. Maybe if you had low cores. Currently assaults can nearly fit full proto anyway. So long as Rattati doesn't increase logi hp it will be fine.

Please don't turn this thread into a debate about logi hp.
Like he said, that's a completely irrelevant discussion.

Its very relevant, we're just not having it here per request

COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC would determine that swapping the movement speeds makes the low hp base fine as is.

Though actual use with tanks one-sided or the other (speed/hp) really prove the need for simple buffs to both

I do think that base stamina should be reduced to make logistics have quick bursts of movement speed to get into/out of a situation quickly, rather than letting them run around at top speed all the time...another way to balance the change, and make cardiac regulators a relevant low slot choice.
Not without a buff regen-side

The problem is most (at least the ones I have talked to, not complete by any means) don't WANT a sidearm. We want bandwidth and a 4th equipment slot at Proto. There are some outliers I know, but for the most part we all would prefer a 4th equipment slot over a sidearm.

Maybe. But you'd have to use a low (or high) slot to benefit, so is that much different than a CPU or PG module?

If the module was CPU and PG costly (like a Kincat), you would have to downgrade other equipment, shields or armour to take advantage of that extra bandwidth.

None of these ideas will prevent suit swapping, but a bandwidth module that has appropriate CPU & PG costs would restrict what could be loaded on a 'throw away' suit.

I say give both "deployment" Logi a sidearm for one less Equipment slot. By Deployment I mean they have a bonus for either Uplinks or Hives, which are both deployables. This would give us both a Shield and an Armor Logi with a sidearm.

It would also be nice if the Min and Gal Logi, could quick switch between their weapon and their first Equipment slot by tapping R2, since they don't have two weapons to switch between. Then they could put their Rep Tool/Scanner in that slot.