DUST Search - [Proposal] Changes to Logistics Progression: 4 Easy Steps

I-Shayz-I wrote:

Since previous attempts at trying to improve logistics have FAILED MISERABLY because our community can't agree on anything, we shall try once more with logic, reasoning, and some freaking common sense.

Before you reply, note that this thread is NOT about fitting bonuses, logistics balance, equipment balance, debates over sidearms, shield repair tools, movement speed, dropsuit colors, officer dropsuits, what you ate for dinner last night, etc.

Here's the proposal:
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Step 1

All racial suits will have the same number of slots at each tier. Slots can be either High, Low, Equipment, or Sidearm

STD: 7 slots
ADV: 9 slots
PRO: 12 slots
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Step 2

Racial slot layouts for High/Low slots will follow the Assaults EXACTLY. NO EXCEPTIONS

Caldari: 3/1 | 4/2 | 5/3
Minmatar: 2/2 | 3/3 | 4/4
Gallente: 1/3 | 2/4 | 3/5
Amarr: 1/3 | 2/4 | 3/5
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Step 3

Fitting space will be slightly skewed up and down for each race according to the same rough percentage increases/decreases that Assaults have

The current base CPU/PG for Logistics are:
STD - 195/39
ADV - 273/55
PRO - 390/78

Guideline:
Caldari: Highest CPU, Lowest PG
Minmatar: Higher CPU, Lower PG
Gallente: Lower CPU, Higher PG
Amarr: Lowest CPU, Highest PG

Calculated numbers:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByYUjq_P9RY0LVZlYndVbFVSSlE/view?usp=sharing
(note, these are not final, but are a very very good idea of what logistics fitting space should look like for each race)
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Step 4

This is the hardest part. We, as a community, need to agree on two things:

1. Amarr logi gets a sidearm at each tier, but sacrifices one equipment slot at each tier to maintain the same number of total slots
2. What to do about the 4th low slot of the Caldari Logi, since we are sticking to the Assault layouts with NO EXCEPTIONS

Number 2 is very simple. Here are your options:
-Caldari Logi gets a 4th equipment, just like the Minmatar and Gallente suits
-Caldari Logi gets a sidearm at each tier in place of one equipment slot, just like the Amarr suit

There is no other option for number 1. Please do not suggest other options in this thread. Either you agree or you disagree. This is mainly to ensure that the Amarr has something unique to offer compared to the Gallente (since both have the same slot layouts)
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This is my ideal course of action.

The current progression is **** and we all know it. My idea isn't completely perfect, it's not going to make every last one of you happy and I understand that.

But can we please, PLEASE, agree that the current slot layouts, fitting numbers, and overall progression is the absolute worst for logistics? At least give it a chance and don't sidetrack this again.


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Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 643	Posted - 2015.04.30 17:16:00 - [1] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Since previous attempts at trying to improve logistics have FAILED MISERABLY because our community can't agree on anything, we shall try once more with logic, reasoning, and some freaking common sense. Before you reply, note that this thread is NOT about fitting bonuses, logistics balance, equipment balance, debates over sidearms, shield repair tools, movement speed, dropsuit colors, officer dropsuits, what you ate for dinner last night, etc. Here's the proposal: ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Step 1 All racial suits will have the same number of slots at each tier. Slots can be either High, Low, Equipment, or Sidearm STD: 7 slots ADV: 9 slots PRO: 12 slots ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Step 2 Racial slot layouts for High/Low slots will follow the Assaults EXACTLY. NO EXCEPTIONS Caldari: 3/1 \| 4/2 \| 5/3 Minmatar: 2/2 \| 3/3 \| 4/4 Gallente: 1/3 \| 2/4 \| 3/5 Amarr: 1/3 \| 2/4 \| 3/5 ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Step 3 Fitting space will be slightly skewed up and down for each race according to the same rough percentage increases/decreases that Assaults have The current base CPU/PG for Logistics are: STD - 195/39 ADV - 273/55 PRO - 390/78 Guideline: Caldari: Highest CPU, Lowest PG Minmatar: Higher CPU, Lower PG Gallente: Lower CPU, Higher PG Amarr: Lowest CPU, Highest PG Calculated numbers: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByYUjq_P9RY0LVZlYndVbFVSSlE/view?usp=sharing (note, these are not final, but are a very very good idea of what logistics fitting space should look like for each race) ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Step 4 This is the hardest part. We, as a community, need to agree on two things: 1. Amarr logi gets a sidearm at each tier, but sacrifices one equipment slot at each tier to maintain the same number of total slots 2. What to do about the 4th low slot of the Caldari Logi, since we are sticking to the Assault layouts with NO EXCEPTIONS Number 2 is very simple. Here are your options: -Caldari Logi gets a 4th equipment, just like the Minmatar and Gallente suits -Caldari Logi gets a sidearm at each tier in place of one equipment slot, just like the Amarr suit There is no other option for number 1. Please do not suggest other options in this thread. Either you agree or you disagree. This is mainly to ensure that the Amarr has something unique to offer compared to the Gallente (since both have the same slot layouts) ______________________________________________________________________________________________ This is my ideal course of action. The current progression is **** and we all know it. My idea isn't completely perfect, it's not going to make every last one of you happy and I understand that. But can we please, PLEASE, agree that the current slot layouts, fitting numbers, and overall progression is the absolute worst for logistics? At least give it a chance and don't sidetrack this again. Agree, and would go with the sidearm for cal logi at this point.