shield damage threshhold is in the game already. its value is set to zero currently.

all it does is determine how much damage is rquired to stop your shields from regenerating.

setting the value equal to the lowest damage per shot by a weapon (ei. smg or hmg) at its OPTIMAL range would be a good start. what it means is that for most weapons, firing outside of your optimal range will mean you wont be able to break shield regen.

of course raising the threshold would give you shield regen aginst some weapons even while in optimal range. a value equal to an AR would mean combat rifles would not be able to stop your shield regen even while at their optimal ranges. is that desired? idk

another question is can the threshhold be set for each race differently? so caldari would have the best threshold, abd the other races would would iether have lower thresholds, or none at all.

What I meant is that if a smg is 20 damage per shot for example, then you set the threshold to 20 or 19 depending on how it actually works. So the only way to break shield regen is to:

Not ******* snipe with a smg from 100m away.


Sorry lol. But yea, really I'm looking to give caldari they place on the fields as the long range fighters. Between weapon falloff and a damage threshold, caldari wouldn't have to hug crates so much. It helps caldari more since their weapons have long optimal ranges and higher shield regen. But it doesn't give them any advantages in cqc, which is where they should be weaker

Breaking shield regen should be simple: get closer.

Ok so shield damage threshold gets implemented, we putting an armor damage threshold on too? It only seems fair.

Addressing the point of low damage per shot weapons not breaking shield regen:

A threshold of 20 was simply a number I pulled out of my head. It's more involved than I made it seem. Two thing that effect damage I didn't mention before are damage profiles, and damage mods.

If the lowest damage per shot is a smg at 17 damage per shot then I'd say make the threshold about that. But then you factor in projectile damage profile reducing the damage to shields by 15%. So it still wouldn't break shield regen.

But then we must also consider that a smg a cqc weapon, and also anti armor. Is it really unacceptable for it to struggle with breaking shield regen?

What about using damage mods to help break shield regen?

Std weapons vs proto? Yes.

EDIT:

im not sure which weapons you have issue with.

smg vs breach smg for example?

std smg vs proto smg?

smg vs rail rifle?

except for weapon tiers, all weapons and their variants have their own weapon optimal ranges anyways. an AR wouldnt break the shields of some using an RR +70m away because that outside the AR's range, but maybe not for the TAC AR.

im not sure which weapons you think would have superior range for breaking shield regen compared to other weapon of similar type besides std vs adv vs proto weapons of the same type.

i read it again and its worse than you think because you didnt factor in damage profile vs shields. youre range would be even less.

but im still asking why youre trying to fight a ARR at long range with a short range weapon? you compared a shorter range weapon to a long range weapon and then complained when the ACR had less effective range for breaking shield regen.

if it were a real siuation id be using the ACR on mim assault where i could simply run up to you if i could and kill you. even with no damage threshold i would sit at range and pepper you to death. there are other mechanics too that work here. you can not look at a damage threshold out of context.

the point of a damage threshold it to provide shield tankers with the ability to hold their own on open ground against remote rep armor tankers. that the only use i'd have for it besides blocking idiots 200m away pinging you with smg.

so perhaps theres something better than an absolute avalue for damage threshhold