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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:58:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Skirmish was copy/pasted and tweaked to become Domination. Domination is essentially the same as Skirmish, but with only one point, and no objective-spawning.
Acquisition so far is fun, but also just tweaked SUPERIOR version of Domination. Like Domination, it has only one point that you can't spawn on, but instead of stagnating into boring one-sided kill farming, it actually remains dynamic.
Skirmish and Acquisition are different enough compared to each other, but Domination is like some pointless vistegial transition phase that is now obsolete. This is a problem because all it does is divide the playerbase even further.
I think Domination should be removed from the public battle listings. Some of you may be reticent to support this, as it appears like I'm suggesting removing content from the game, but keep in mind that Domination is just an inferior version of content we already have (Acquisition).
While I hate it, I would not mind if it was used in something else like Planetary Conquest, or Faction Warfare, or do something else with it. I heard some suggested putting Domination and Skirmish in the same queue, and I DO NOT support this because I don't want my Skirmish experience ruined with Domination.
I agree 100%.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Might want to fix Acquisition first though. Having one farmable home spawn, no real indicator of when you're going to win or lose, and objectives in the redline are all issues that need addressing.
Again though, I don't believe in removing content just because CCP fails to build and retain their player base. We shouldn't be punished for CCPs failings.
The playerbase is falling apart because matches are boring. They are boring because people don't have an incentive to fight.
Join some random squad finder squads, ask them why they aren't pushing. "I'm not going to lose ISK this match".
People make posts about it and they go ignored or people say to run BPOs and that's that.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:16:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I don't squad because socializing is gross and waiting around for people to start another match is even worse. I'd run my own squad, but squad leading from a dropship is kind of like placing a collect call with a cup of juice.
Forcing players into matches they have no desire to be in isn't exactly a superb way of convincing them to play....
I am forced to play alongside solo players for 99% of my Dust play time and I hate it.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:22:00 -
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Username Alpha wrote:thor424 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Might want to fix Acquisition first though. Having one farmable home spawn, no real indicator of when you're going to win or lose, and objectives in the redline are all issues that need addressing.
Again though, I don't believe in removing content just because CCP fails to build and retain their player base. We shouldn't be punished for CCPs failings. The playerbase is falling apart because matches are boring. They are boring because people don't have an incentive to fight. Join some random squad finder squads, ask them why they aren't pushing. "I'm not going to lose ISK this match". People make posts about it and they go ignored or people say to run BPOs and that's that. But ... I mean ... that's what cheap-suits are for. I have 7k and 8k suits that perform decently in matches, and if that's still not enough then using the starter BPOs is surely better than just sitting in the red zone masturbating.
That's kind of the point. If it was worth it to win, then perhaps people would go through the additional hassle of squading up and waiting between matches. They also might chose to leave the redline and even perhaps step up their gear a bit to push them over the top.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:thor424 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I don't squad because socializing is gross and waiting around for people to start another match is even worse. I'd run my own squad, but squad leading from a dropship is kind of like placing a collect call with a cup of juice.
Forcing players into matches they have no desire to be in isn't exactly a superb way of convincing them to play.... I am forced to play alongside solo players for 99% of my Dust play time and I hate it. I would kill for a solo game mode but we come full circle to not having enough players to support it. I don't mind playing against full squads, it's more fun that way, but when the enemy has 12 people all working together and your team is just a bunch of randoms it breaks down pretty damn fast.
With the vast number of people queuing solo all the time this is just the way it'll always be. Unless they incentivize squading.
It's the reason why things never seem balanced and it's certainly why we'll likely never see proto vehicles.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:thor424 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:thor424 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I don't squad because socializing is gross and waiting around for people to start another match is even worse. I'd run my own squad, but squad leading from a dropship is kind of like placing a collect call with a cup of juice.
Forcing players into matches they have no desire to be in isn't exactly a superb way of convincing them to play.... I am forced to play alongside solo players for 99% of my Dust play time and I hate it. I would kill for a solo game mode but we come full circle to not having enough players to support it. I don't mind playing against full squads, it's more fun that way, but when the enemy has 12 people all working together and your team is just a bunch of randoms it breaks down pretty damn fast. With the vast number of people queuing solo all the time this is just the way it'll always be. Unless they incentivize squading. It's the reason why things never seem balanced and it's certainly why we'll likely never see proto vehicles. We have proto vehicles.... You could pay me 10 million ISK for playing a match with a squad and I would STILL play solo lol.
Well I don't believe you are a normal player. I wish I was a good ADS pilot, I'd probably like soloing more.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:59:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I say keep domination. A single, protected spawn with a clone count plays out completely differently. AKA, camped redline matches. Like EVERY dom match I have ever seen lmao. People like their easy wins, good luck prying it away from them Lol, so apparently everyone gets thrown on the same side in Dom, and its always an easy win. No hard loss for the other side? Couldn't possibly turn into a good match even... People who don't play Dom shouldn't comment on it.
I play domination a lot less than I used to. Conservatively I'd estimate that I experience matches where both sides keep pushing for the point in domination 10% of the time.
Two scenarios usually happen:
1) Team races to the point and captures the objective. The other team shows up and pushes them off the point. Sniping and other forms of camping ensue.
2) Team races to the point and captures the objective. The other team starts sniping and camping from afar and aside from a few heroes, nobody even considers the lone objective a factor.
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thor424
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Posted - 2015.05.01 23:44:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:thor424 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Might want to fix Acquisition first though. Having one farmable home spawn, no real indicator of when you're going to win or lose, and objectives in the redline are all issues that need addressing.
Again though, I don't believe in removing content just because CCP fails to build and retain their player base. We shouldn't be punished for CCPs failings. The playerbase is falling apart because matches are boring. They are boring because people don't have an incentive to fight. Join some random squad finder squads, ask them why they aren't pushing. "I'm not going to lose ISK this match". People make posts about it and they go ignored or people say to run BPOs and that's that. What's your thoughts on how to solve that?
Buffing payouts, which is being discussed.
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