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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.28 23:35:00 -
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Poor Quality Idea Kagehoshi.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 00:07:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:Poor Quality Idea Kagehoshi.
No. Poor quality response True Adamance. I explained my reasoning clearly and concisely, yet you give me just 4 words.
That's all you are going to get.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:KAGE, you're gonna need this
Not saying it to be an ass as I do realise the first point I made was not constructive or helpful. However I personally, and I recognise my opposition to this is purely based out of personal ire against the Domination game mode, feel like Domination has not place in Factional Warfare where we should be encouraging the ideals of tactical combat using the entirety of the map, co-ordinated gameplay, and clear communication.
I do not feel Domination offers FW any of those things nor deserves to have a place as the exclusive game mode, which is a foolish idea anyway in my opinion, of FW.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:07:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Seems that you hate Domination as much as me, so can we agree that Domination should just be removed from public battles at least?
Indeed.
I'm just considering how tenuous my link to Dust is despite loving the games premise. I simply find the idea of injecting the lease appealing game mode into FW and forcing us to play it over and over again to be thoroughly disheartening.
Reason I made it so abundantly clear in the previous post that the premise of your post was personal opinion was solely because I have respect for your ability to present a reasonable argument and recognised that I had nothing but personal opinion myself as opposition.
Also had to have some way to pre-empt the inevitable post from someone who yells "TRUE SHUT UP THAT'S NOT QUANTITATIVE EVIDENCE YOU BOARD GAME SCRUB!"
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 01:17:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Updated OP
Kage....... it's our first fight
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:33:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Username Alpha wrote:five times wrote:Domination is nice, please leave it as it is, as a noob (still kind of am) the best advice I read was to play domination if I'm solo, it helps in that your not bombarded with many objectives, and you get loads of action Disclaimer: If you enjoy it, there's no reason not to play it. The following is in no way meant to argue that you shouldn't play Domination. I dislike playing Domination as a solo player because you have practically no chance of taking the single objective which is sure to be well guarded, as opposed to in Skirmish where you, perhaps with a couple like-minded fellows, can sneak around to less well defended objectives, kill the few if any defenders, and grab it. The same concept applies in the event that there is a proto squad on the enemy team and not on your team. They can do a lot of damage but they can't completely monopolize the game the way they can in Domination. If you don't care about the objectives except insofar as "that's where the action is", then sure, Domination is great. It just rubs me the wrong way to play that way because it's basically ignoring the thing I'm supposed to be caring about. Thank you for verifying to those who say that skirmish is more tactical, what I have been saying all along. Which is, those who don't have the tactics or gungame to infiltrate a heavily defended position, sneak around and hack empty objectives...
The above is part and parcel of tactics. If your team is leaving an objective open then they are failing to apply a proper strategy to the match. Capitalising on that weakness with a Scout or small squad is the correct approach to breaking down your opponent.
Contrary to that camping out in the middle of a bridge of reactor and spamming Uplinks, Nanohives, and Remote Explosives requires very little in the way of "thinking".
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:50:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Please tell me how GÇ¥ok guys, we are gonna take these 2/3 most easily defendable points right off the bat and hold them. If that doesn't work, we go hack the least defended position," is tactical?
You are describing the team in Dom who captured the point out of the gate. The team who has to break that point, has to use tactics. Sadly, most skirmishers will just snipe from the redline, because there is no empty point to hack. Skirmish is just Dom, with weaker points, so if skirmish is tactical, why isn't Dom?
I fundamentally believe this is because of the necessary distribution of players across multiple objectives, as a result of this players have significantly more options when it comes to approaching sockets. Conflict is spread across three or more fronts with necessary focus over the entirety of the battlefield itself and the ability to move rapidly and redeploy to specific sections of the battlefield rather than attempting to dislodge a single mob of players from the objective with your mob of players.
Domination Mode would be vastly more interesting and tactical if the central point were fortified and besieging it in a meaningful manner was the core focus of the game mode.
If it comes down to anecdotal evidence bro I'll cite literally evry, yes "evry", Domination match I've ever been in because statements like this are quantitative and suggest to you watching morons try to mob and point, give up because a protosquad is sitting on it with a ******* camping prick of tanker in the back ranks and degenerate into a pack of snipers is particularly tactically stimulating.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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