DUST Search - Where the F are shield buffs

WeapondigitX V7 wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

You're doing it wrong. Range, speed, precision, and damp are your friend.

1. ScR has almost same range as RR but with pin point accuracy. Speed does nothing because Aim Assist. Precision takes away from tank and scouts will still sneak up on you. Damp does nothing against Gallante logistic suits.

Btw, what you described is a Caldari Scout. The Assault can't do most of the things you listed without gimping itself. The Setinel for Caldari definitely can't do any of the above.

You seem to be asking for a shield suits that has no weaknesses. The game don't have that for armor or shield tankers.

against assaults with short range weapons, ewar can help you in CQC, regen and/or speed can help you at range (not straffing, I meant better control over having a constant engagement range)

against assaults with long range weapons, a few CPU mods and PG mods (with shield hp mods, or damage mods if you have good aim), std cloak at long range to help you observe those that speed across open ground, ambush them at long range from behind. Or use a adv or PRO scanner to observe assaults through cover, wait until they are in open ground, kill from long range with (speed and dmg mods) or (regen suit) or (brick tank) or (shield tank and speed) etc

many other playstyles (they are usually always guerilla warfare when using shield assaults)

Use caldari sentinels for being slow with (high tank and moderate regen) or (high regen and moderate hp) (if I remember correctly, it is a playstyle slightly similar to most caldari EVE ships) (camping at long range, slow at changing between camping spots), best use a long range light weapon. (or use dmg mods with a hmg and flank careless enemies who are preoccupied in a firefight)

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Michael Arck 6233	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:08:00 - [31] - Quote Mr. Burns voice Excellent!!! Keep it up guys! Keep talking about the shield ineffectiveness!!! The more you talk about it, the more CCP will consider it!! Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 804	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:16:00 - [32] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They will come when shield suits stop picking armour plates in the lows. The issue is shields are in such a bad place comparatively people feel they need the armor in the lows as well in order to survive. It is a catch 22. Shields need improved so people don't put armor in the lows but there won't get the buffs until people stop putting armor in the lows? Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
7th Son 7 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 822	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:17:00 - [33] - Quote You wanna be buff? Be Gallente. You wanna be schitzo? Be Caldari Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Michael Arck 6234	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:18:00 - [34] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: They will come when shield suits stop picking armour plates in the lows. The issue is shields are in such a bad place comparatively people feel they need the armor in the lows as well in order to survive. It is a catch 22. Shields need improved so people don't put armor in the lows but there won't get the buffs until people stop putting armor in the lows? Exactly. Keyword: Survivability Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4508	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:20:00 - [35] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: They will come when shield suits stop picking armour plates in the lows. The issue is shields are in such a bad place comparatively people feel they need the armor in the lows as well in order to survive. It is a catch 22. Shields need improved so people don't put armor in the lows but there won't get the buffs until people stop putting armor in the lows? I doubt people would stop running armour mods if they buff shields. The issue is that meta is to dual tank and that there is no down side for a suit stepping out of its intended role. Not to me notion that a shield suit user can achieve close to a armour users reps and ehp while a armour suit can never do the same. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4639	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:23:00 - [36] - Quote Join the fight for a proper shield logistics! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2684388#post2684388 I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 575	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:43:00 - [37] - Quote Shields are not "fine". We shouldn't have to hide behind cover and die all the time, just because the game got changed, recently. It wasn't like this six months ago. It's not just the Amarr weaponry. Gallente weaponry drops our shields too. I've been doing a lot of testing lately. I have skill 5 into all rifles, cause I like rifles. Shields need a serious buff Reloading, the silent killer.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 389	Posted - 2015.04.28 12:25:00 - [38] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You're doing it wrong. Range, speed, precision, and damp are your friend. 1. ScR has almost same range as RR but with pin point accuracy. Speed does nothing because Aim Assist. Precision takes away from tank and scouts will still sneak up on you. Damp does nothing against Gallante logistic suits. Btw, what you described is a Caldari Scout. The Assault can't do most of the things you listed without gimping itself. The Setinel for Caldari definitely can't do any of the above. You seem to be asking for a shield suits that has no weaknesses. The game don't have that for armor or shield tankers. against assaults with short range weapons, ewar can help you in CQC, regen and/or speed can help you at range (not straffing, I meant better control over having a constant engagement range) against assaults with long range weapons, a few CPU mods and PG mods (with shield hp mods, or damage mods if you have good aim), std cloak at long range to help you observe those that speed across open ground, ambush them at long range from behind. Or use a adv or PRO scanner to observe assaults through cover, wait until they are in open ground, kill from long range with (speed and dmg mods) or (regen suit) or (brick tank) or (shield tank and speed) etc many other playstyles (they are usually always guerilla warfare when using shield assaults) Use caldari sentinels for being slow with (high tank and moderate regen) or (high regen and moderate hp) (if I remember correctly, it is a playstyle slightly similar to most caldari EVE ships) (camping at long range, slow at changing between camping spots), best use a long range light weapon. (or use dmg mods with a hmg and flank careless enemies who are preoccupied in a firefight) Um.... Not to be rude or anything... But I'm honestly going to ask if you use the Caldari assault? Because you are essential telling us to take a special fit suit (where it is only effective if you build it specifically for specific purpose, and calass is either special fit, or gimped. There aren't really any freedoms in fitting until 1 low slot at proto. Which is why it's special fit, a fit for simple survival.) EWAR? Gimps fit, either lose sHP or sHP/s. Or increase delays. You'll run a weak scout basically. CPU? PG? Suicidal. If i had a C/1, i should stick with enhanced, or one complex fitting permitted. If i cpu/pg, i increase delays, for no benefit. if I'm already squeeze fitting, I'll use both low slots to increase my resources, gimping my fit even more. Cloak on cal assault? ... Lol i won't lie i do have a cloak c/1, but unfortunately... It means I'll be doing scouting reports to my squad and watching our flanks. Not really assaulting... Also, that fit is severely sub-par. I can only fit basic... And a comp reg as always. I use every ounce of PG, and have about 5 cpu left over. It really isn't the best thing you could do. I know it definitely isn't the best for pro calass, you're already squeeze fitting for it to be effective. So.... Do you calAss? The ADS tourney! Join today!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 389	Posted - 2015.04.28 12:27:00 - [39] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: Join the fight for a proper shield logistics! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2684388#post2684388 I would but... No one ever answers my question :( The ADS tourney! Join today!


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