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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak?
Can you recall the times a heavy was right in front of you, but you didn't see them because you were distracted by something else in game?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:15:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak? When they weren't in front of me obviously. If they are behind me, I won't see them. I can see like 90% of cloaks in front of me at a decent distance. It could be the TV as well. Or I am just a REALLY GOOD CLOAK SPOTTER. LIKE SERIOUSLY. I WILL SPOT YOU REAL QUICK. it isn't that hard tbh. If you are aware. You will always just be aware and ready to spot a cloak in the blink of an eye. Just look for that blue shimmer or that still blur. It's easy trust me. Toupee fallacy..
Toupee fallacy ONLY works when someone says they ALWAYS see the cloak.
If you don't understand a fallacy, don't quote it...
If you don't have empirical evidence to demonstrate his subjective opinion of seeing 90% of cloaked mercs number is inaccurate, then your subjective opinion of how often people cloaked go unseen is no more or less relevant.
You can disagree with someone's observations, and state your own, but without hard evidence, you can't pretend it is fact.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak? Can you recall the times a heavy was right in front of you, but you didn't see them because you were distracted by something else in game? -Blink- What?
Your are trying to make the point that someone can't know what they don't know, ie the times that someone who is cloaked actually goes unseen.
You state this as an argument that the cloak works as intended, despite the fact that many times the cloaks ARE seen.
My point is that there is more at play. Consider the case of the Invisible Gorilla , in which you focus on one thing so much (say an Assault directly in front of you using cover and firing), that you don't even see the heavy right next to him that is fully visible.
My argument is that there is more at play in whether you "see" something.
We need to stop basing the arguments on how often cloaked scouts go unnoticed, because you can't know that information!
What we CAN base it off of is how many times we DO see cloakers. Especially in light of the nerfs that have severely weakened the already weak suits using them.
Contrary to Lightening's belief, it is NOT intended to be a combat cloak. It IS intended to allow very squishy suits the ability to move about the periphery of fighting safely. If there are too many instances where being cloaked is not helpful enough to allow that to happen, then it is not working optimally.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:39:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now.
Noted.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 18:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now. Noted.  I'm a bit jaded from having to argue every little opinion I have, sorry mate. Only people I gotta convince are the Blue Tags.
Everyone has to argue every little opinion they have.
Including the OP to which you rightly challenged.
Let me know when you are ready to have discussions again, til then I will let you be.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.26 18:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet. Aeon Amadi wrote:I really could care less what anyone thinks. ^ CPM material. damn!!!! that's a burn worse than grabbin the tray out oven at 2 a.m drunk and forgettin the mit! Worse than Judge Rhadamanthus? Doubtful.
While true, you aren't really using a high, or even medium standard.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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