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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 13:37:00 -
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Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak?
Running for CPM was a mistake if only because I'm the only one who let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 15:53:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak? When they weren't in front of me obviously. If they are behind me, I won't see them. I can see like 90% of cloaks in front of me at a decent distance. It could be the TV as well. Or I am just a REALLY GOOD CLOAK SPOTTER. LIKE SERIOUSLY. I WILL SPOT YOU REAL QUICK. it isn't that hard tbh. If you are aware. You will always just be aware and ready to spot a cloak in the blink of an eye. Just look for that blue shimmer or that still blur. It's easy trust me. Toupee fallacy..
Glad someone caught on.
Running for CPM was a mistake if only because I'm the only one who let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:10:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak? Can you recall the times a heavy was right in front of you, but you didn't see them because you were distracted by something else in game?
-Blink-
What?
Running for CPM was a mistake if only because I'm the only one who let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:35:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Can you recall the times you didn't see the cloak? Can you recall the times a heavy was right in front of you, but you didn't see them because you were distracted by something else in game? -Blink- What? Your are trying to make the point that someone can't know what they don't know, ie the times that someone who is cloaked actually goes unseen. You state this as an argument that the cloak works as intended, despite the fact that many times the cloaks ARE seen. My point is that there is more at play. Consider the case of the Invisible Gorilla , in which you focus on one thing so much (say an Assault directly in front of you using cover and firing), that you don't even see the heavy right next to him that is fully visible. My argument is that there is more at play in whether you "see" something. We need to stop basing the arguments on how often cloaked scouts go unnoticed, because you can't know that information!What we CAN base it off of is how many times we DO see cloakers. Especially in light of the nerfs that have severely weakened the already weak suits using them. Contrary to Lightening's belief, it is NOT intended to be a combat cloak. It IS intended to allow very squishy suits the ability to move about the periphery of fighting safely. If there are too many instances where being cloaked is not helpful enough to allow that to happen, then it is not working optimally.
I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet.
Based on your first couple of sentences I'll just say this: The cloak works sometimes, the cloak doesn't work sometimes - just leave it alone and it won't be broken for either the user or the viewer. I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now. Sometimes you'll see it, sometimes you won't; that's all it really needs to be. No point in making it 100% effective or 100% ineffective.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:41:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now. Noted.
I'm a bit jaded from having to argue every little opinion I have, sorry mate. Only people I gotta convince are the Blue Tags.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:42:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet. Aeon Amadi wrote:I really could care less what anyone thinks. ^ CPM material.
Video for you
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:44:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet. Aeon Amadi wrote:I really could care less what anyone thinks. ^ CPM material. damn!!!! that's a burn worse than grabbin the tray out oven at 2 a.m drunk and forgettin the mit!
Worse than Judge Rhadamanthus? Doubtful.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:45:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet. Aeon Amadi wrote:I really could care less what anyone thinks. ^ CPM material.
What'd you ever do for the community, if I may ask?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 16:53:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I kinda stopped reading because I don't care, lol. Just being brutally honest. It's 11:30 AM and I haven't gone to lunch yet. Aeon Amadi wrote:I really could care less what anyone thinks. ^ CPM material. Video for you That is actually so applicable to you. 
Hey, bro, I'm not the one constantly bringing it up lmfao
But for real though what do you do for the community? Do you like, record vids? Make tutorials? Do you do spreadsheets? Do you like, draw stuff - I'm trying to figure you out man, talk to me, I dunno who you are
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:00:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:He is the weaver of shadows man, you don't question someone with that kind of talent and title. You catch a posion dart to the back of the neck from the tree-tops that way.
Nah nah nah, don't misunderstand me, like - I get that he's skilled in listening to emo music or whatever but what does he do for the community is all I'm askin', like, real talk
I mean, did he run for the CPM? I don't remember seeing him on the candidates list I just wanna know, like, what he does around here, naw meen?
Cause, like, yanno, I figure if you're gonna troll you gotta at least have some merit yourself, right? Not just some random neck beard who just goes on the forums and talks trash? That doesn't happen, does it?
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:12:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:He is the weaver of shadows man, you don't question someone with that kind of talent and title. You catch a posion dart to the back of the neck from the tree-tops that way. Nah nah nah, don't misunderstand me, like - I get that he's skilled in listening to emo music or whatever but what does he do for the community is all I'm askin', like, real talk I mean, did he run for the CPM? I don't remember seeing him on the candidates list I just wanna know, like, what he does around here, naw meen? Cause, like, yanno, I figure if you're gonna troll you gotta at least have some merit yourself, right? Not just some random neck beard who just goes on the forums and talks trash? That doesn't happen, does it? I once sniped a sniper, justice was served for the community. Do I merit input? Anyone still showing an interest in this game has a right to say anything. Don't take his jab too hard, we get it, you put in work and his might not match up to your amount.
Not even about that, just tired of prissy bitches acting like I'm on some pedestal. Dude does what he does, I do what I do - I'm not talking **** first opportunity he gives me, I'd at least like that same respect.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:42:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even about that, just tired of prissy bitches acting like I'm on some pedestal. Dude does what he does, I do what I do - I'm not talking **** first opportunity he gives me, I'd at least like that same respect. Actually, you did start talking ****, where you essentially said 'Your opinion is worthless' to One Eyed King. Forget the CPM nonsense, which was just a jibe, and for that, I apologise.
Yeah, and that's between me and One Eyed King because he's a superficial troll who makes an effort to contradict every post I make - I accepted that a long time ago and quit trying to reason with the dude and as such, I don't really care to read long posts that basically just sums up to "you're wrong" with perfect consistency. Has absolutely nothing to do with you so don't go off making it your problem. Peachy keen? Peachy keen.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 18:26:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now. Noted. I'm a bit jaded from having to argue every little opinion I have, sorry mate. Only people I gotta convince are the Blue Tags. You shouldn't even run, what help can you provide if you tell us you don't even care about our opinion? Even the blue tags listen to us, they ask for our feedback. You just stomp on anyones feedback that differs from yours......
Are you high?
No seriously, like - are you high? Do you just parrot stuff because you see "Aeon Amadi" in the thread and instantly thought, "BOY THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW MUCH OF A JACKASS I CAN BE!"
That's all I can think bro. Because if you payed even -the slightest bit of attention- you'd know that I had absolutely no intentions of running for CPM 2 and hate the very notion fo it. You'd know that I don't need some stupid white tag to feel good about myself and be the drive to go and do those community-driven things that -I still occasionally do- despite posts like this constantly trying to drive me down because some ignorant nobody came along and figured they'd try to sound important.
And no, I stomp on anyone's feedback that differs from mine whenever they contradict me at every single turn. One Eyed King and I have -never- gotten along and I'm fairly sure we're all aware of that by now. Just because we don't agree, and likely never will, doesn't mean I'm not going to include him in on any of the community driven stuff that I actually do like the PSD if I ever get around to actually shouldering that weight again - what with the fact that it was basically just me doing it anyway.
But yanno, feel free to step up any time and shoulder some weight yourself and do something. Hell, I challenge you, personally, to go off and do something community driven. That doesn't mean go and argue with a bunch of people on the forums, that doesn't mean go and start liking a bunch of posts you agree with, I mean actually sit down and work some magic that betters the community as a whole - even the people you don't agree with.
Go do that, then you can come over here and start telling people who should or shouldn't run for the CPM. Even though those people aren't running anyway because they recognize you don't have to have the CPM moniker to do stuff around here.
EDIT: And yes, to educate you a bit on how things are run around here, a CPM member can and probably will disagree - sometimes quite verbally - with what someone else says. You're no good to anyone if you just go around agreeing with everything. CPM member that 'represents everyone' is a liar.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 18:37:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I wanna be high :(
what's the PSD you mentioned Aeon? Curious what it is, have not heard of it..or atleast by that title. I had a long vactaion, I missed a lot of stuff.
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One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: I really could care less what anyone thinks, it's fine the way it is right now. Noted. I'm a bit jaded from having to argue every little opinion I have, sorry mate. Only people I gotta convince are the Blue Tags. Everyone has to argue every little opinion they have. Including the OP to which you rightly challenged. Let me know when you are ready to have discussions again, til then I will let you be.
And this is why I don't argue with you - because not everyone's opinion has to be openly challenged and the sooner you realize that the better. I asked a question, I didn't "challenge" the OP I just wanted to see if he had considered the plausibility that if he hadn't seen a cloaked user then it was working correctly.
Like, for real, I'm -really- not in the mood to argue with you about every little thing, dude, and going into this conversation with that mentality isn't doing you kudos either. You wanna play the square and think I'm like some dude on a pedestal that needs to be brought down a few notches, you go right ahead. More power to you, buddy, you show the man who's boss. But today? Just not in the mood to get into a multi-page long debate over something I really don't care about (cloaking) with someone who I really don't want to argue with (you) yet again because I know it's not going to go anywhere (ever).
Don't mistake me, I'm totally down for discussions - just not with someone that isn't ready or willing to listen or compromise.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 19:38:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Flaylock Steve wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
Noted.
I'm a bit jaded from having to argue every little opinion I have, sorry mate. Only people I gotta convince are the Blue Tags. You shouldn't even run, what help can you provide if you tell us you don't even care about our opinion? Even the blue tags listen to us, they ask for our feedback. You just stomp on anyones feedback that differs from yours...... Are you high? No seriously, like - are you high? Do you just parrot stuff because you see "Aeon Amadi" in the thread and instantly thought, "BOY THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW MUCH OF A JACKASS I CAN BE!" That's all I can think bro. Because if you payed even -the slightest bit of attention- you'd know that I had absolutely no intentions of running for CPM 2 and hate the very notion fo it. You'd know that I don't need some stupid white tag to feel good about myself and be the drive to go and do those community-driven things that -I still occasionally do- despite posts like this constantly trying to drive me down because some ignorant nobody came along and figured they'd try to sound important. And no, I stomp on anyone's feedback that differs from mine whenever they contradict me at every single turn. One Eyed King and I have -never- gotten along and I'm fairly sure we're all aware of that by now. Just because we don't agree, and likely never will, doesn't mean I'm not going to include him in on any of the community driven stuff that I actually do like the PSD if I ever get around to actually shouldering that weight again - what with the fact that it was basically just me doing it anyway. But yanno, feel free to step up any time and shoulder some weight yourself and do something. Hell, I challenge you, personally, to go off and do something community driven. That doesn't mean go and argue with a bunch of people on the forums, that doesn't mean go and start liking a bunch of posts you agree with, I mean actually sit down and work some magic that betters the community as a whole - even the people you don't agree with. Go do that, then you can come over here and start telling people who should or shouldn't run for the CPM. Even though those people aren't running anyway because they recognize you don't have to have the CPM moniker to do stuff around here. EDIT: And yes, to educate you a bit on how things are run around here, a CPM member can and probably will disagree - sometimes quite verbally - with what someone else says. You're no good to anyone if you just go around agreeing with everything. CPM member that 'represents everyone' is a liar. Then I withhold my statement, but no. I wasn't trying to be a "JACKASS", just from what I read here I don't agree with that statement I quoted and many others. And yes I know how things work around here. But even if a CMP/DEV team member disagrees with feedback they don't come out and say they don't care about such and such opinion.
Kay, well, I'm not a CPM and I'm not a Dev. So. Dunno what to tell you.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.26 20:19:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Kay, well, I'm not a CPM and I'm not a Dev. So. Dunno what to tell you.
Well you claim that you try to do things that are community driven. Honestly technically everyone is, how do the devs know which items in the game are OP? from the data, who's responsible for the data? the community. Even those who don't even post once are still part of the data the team is gathering. Yet, from what I see if it doesn't suit you, you A: go against it, B:Ignore it. C: State theres no issue here. Do you use scouts regularly? Run cloak regularly? If not, then why bother posting in this thread? yes you probably think cloaks are fine or w.e but yet most of us scouts and I mean dedicated scouts agree that cloaks are in a bad spot.
Well your first mistake is thinking that only the user can weigh in on the topic.
I'll tell you the same thing they told me whenever I started saying that the Gallente Assault was in a bad spot - they're bias. Of course they want the cloaking to be better, because then they can reap the benefits of it. Sure, other roles "can" use cloaking devices but you change anything about them and the only ones who are going to see the effects are Scouts. So, if you nyx the feedback of anyone who is not a Scout (something the Barbershop looooovessss to do) then what's left?
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.27 00:43:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:So, if you nyx the feedback of anyone who is not a Scout (something the Barbershop looooovessss to do) then what's left? Oh noes! My feedback on a subject has been challenged by subject matter experts! What to do!?A) Hear their counterpoints; reevaluate my position. B) Hear their counterpoints; defend my position. C) Throw a tantrum D) Play the victim E) Attack the subject matter experts!
Mhmm. Gone down this route before, if you'd remember. Actually tried A and B and got flame warred out of the place for trying. But I suppose that bringing this up automatically puts me in category D and that's never good because for some reason we don't acknowledge victims around here (be rather ironic if someone in this community worked at a crisis center).
Soooo that leaves C... and E....
C is my likely MO but given since that's not a practical response since it doesn't really do much for me and the community is just going to use that as more ammo to further prevent A and B from being warranted, that only leaves E...
So, yeah! Looks like I did the right thing! Think I deserve to give myself a pat on the back 
EDIT: Btw, if you didn't get the message - yeah, I'm attacking the subject matter experts in the previous post entirely out of facetiousness, but feel free to think that I was totes being serious and follow up in your next post with "HURRR CPM MATERIAL DURR DE-DURR". I won't mind. Really.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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