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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:31:00 -
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I was trying out random fits, and when trying to test an armor regen fit, I noticed that as I was running away, tiny amounts of damage would stop my armor regen.
So, all you gallente assault rep tanks out there...do you find your armor regen to be constantly active, or does it only boost up when you're not taking fire?
I was originally under the assumption that armor repairs even during a firefight (similar to how the repair tool works on a teammate getting shot at...of course in bursts obviously), but after what happend the other night I'm curious as to whether or not there is a small delay before the regen actually kicks in after you've been shot at.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:38:00 -
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During stressful situations, it often feels like a single tick takes forever to happen.
Maybe that's what you're experiencing?
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:During stressful situations, it often feels like a single tick takes forever to happen.
Maybe that's what you're experiencing?
I could test it but I'm too busy with Mario Kart atm.
Imagine running away with 200 armor and 25 regen and your armor keeps going down really slowly as they peg you with a submachine gun from like 100 meters...instead of it going up and outrepping the SMG.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:43:00 -
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Check Cat Merc's statement.
Also still better than shields in that situation.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:45:00 -
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It's just a feeling, but of course rep is per second.
Probably it's just lag in damage application.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:46:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Cat Merc wrote:During stressful situations, it often feels like a single tick takes forever to happen.
Maybe that's what you're experiencing? I could test it but I'm too busy with Mario Kart atm. Imagine running away with 200 armor and 25 regen and your armor keeps going down really slowly as they peg you with a submachine gun from like 100 meters...instead of it going up and outrepping the SMG.
Yes, horrific correct? Well Shields
You have to imagine that Armour stops at certain amounts of damage before it stops and shield...
If you get shot by a ScP from 200m away and it does 0.00000001 damage... there goes regen.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:09:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Cat Merc wrote:During stressful situations, it often feels like a single tick takes forever to happen.
Maybe that's what you're experiencing? I could test it but I'm too busy with Mario Kart atm. Imagine running away with 200 armor and 25 regen and your armor keeps going down really slowly as they peg you with a submachine gun from like 100 meters...instead of it going up and outrepping the SMG. Yes, horrific correct? Well ShieldsYou have to imagine that Armour stops at certain amounts of damage before it stops and shield... If you get shot by a ScP from 200m away and it does 0.00000001 damage... there goes regen.
Oh FFS with your shield whining.
Yes, your regen stops, but your regen is also often 2x-3x times as powerful.
What do you want? Both powerful regen and no delay?
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Cat Merc wrote:During stressful situations, it often feels like a single tick takes forever to happen.
Maybe that's what you're experiencing? I could test it but I'm too busy with Mario Kart atm. Imagine running away with 200 armor and 25 regen and your armor keeps going down really slowly as they peg you with a submachine gun from like 100 meters...instead of it going up and outrepping the SMG. Yes, horrific correct? Well ShieldsYou have to imagine that Armour stops at certain amounts of damage before it stops and shield... If you get shot by a ScP from 200m away and it does 0.00000001 damage... there goes regen. Oh FFS with your shield whining. Yes, your regen stops, but your regen is also often 2x-3x times as powerful. What do you want? Both powerful regen and no delay?
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:47:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types.
But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again.
Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:57:00 -
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There is like less than a second of repair delay.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types. But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again. Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face.
Nahh think about it.
A shield suit has to dedicate all slots to sHP to be effective.
And we all know that this armor meta is why anti shield weapons were buffed.
Also, with armor having the logistical support...
Might barely be a difference 1v1 w/ cover, but...
How much freedoms to armor suits get compared to shields? While shield suits have to dedicate lows to reducing delay, armor suits can dedicate highs to killing potential.
Also, with the heavy resource costs for sHP, fitting is much harder.
Which is why I say shield is hardmode...
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:08:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types. But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again. Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face. Nahh think about it. A shield suit has to dedicate all slots to sHP to be effective. And we all know that this armor meta is why anti shield weapons were buffed. Also, with armor having the logistical support... Might barely be a difference 1v1 w/ cover, but... How much freedoms to armor suits get compared to shields? While shield suits have to dedicate lows to reducing delay, armor suits can dedicate highs to killing potential. Also, with the heavy resource costs for sHP, fitting is much harder. Which is why I say shield is hardmode...
Actually, when you dedicate all of your resources to tank, shield tanks are stronger than armor tanks.
You have the choice between utility and tank, we only get the choice of utility in our high slots.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types. But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again. Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face. Nahh think about it. A shield suit has to dedicate all slots to sHP to be effective. And we all know that this armor meta is why anti shield weapons were buffed. Also, with armor having the logistical support... Might barely be a difference 1v1 w/ cover, but... How much freedoms to armor suits get compared to shields? While shield suits have to dedicate lows to reducing delay, armor suits can dedicate highs to killing potential. Also, with the heavy resource costs for sHP, fitting is much harder. Which is why I say shield is hardmode... Actually, when you dedicate all of your resources to tank, shield tanks are stronger than armor tanks.You have the choice between utility and tank, we only get the choice of utility in our high slots.
What have you been smoking sir??
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:18:00 -
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I'm not even gone 5 seconds and my thread has turned into an armor vs shields debate.
Omg
I guess I will be testing this out then at some point
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:24:00 -
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No delay with armour repair at all. It's consistently repairing even under fire.
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Cyzad4
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:29:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I'm not even gone 5 seconds and my thread has turned into an armor vs shields debate.
Omg
I guess I will be testing this out then at some point
lol hijacked
and no there's no delay.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types. But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again. Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face. Nahh think about it. A shield suit has to dedicate all slots to sHP to be effective. And we all know that this armor meta is why anti shield weapons were buffed. Also, with armor having the logistical support... Might barely be a difference 1v1 w/ cover, but... How much freedoms to armor suits get compared to shields? While shield suits have to dedicate lows to reducing delay, armor suits can dedicate highs to killing potential. Also, with the heavy resource costs for sHP, fitting is much harder. Which is why I say shield is hardmode... Actually, when you dedicate all of your resources to tank, shield tanks are stronger than armor tanks. You have the choice between utility and tank, we only get the choice of utility in our high slots.
Suuuuurre. I don't know tbh... Because an effective shield tank have only tank as a choice. These suits at pro come like this:
515-530 sHP
590-630 sHP
(rare case) 707 sHP
All with 1.6 delay.
But to get to that, near max resource skills are needed.. Or you'll be stressing on CPU/PG.
Then, if we try utility, our fits are gimped.. Unless it's special fit.
So we can choose utility, but thats giving away precious sHP or sHP/s or delay.
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Jack Boost
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:45:00 -
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Two different things: your HP at server side and at clinet.
There is no problem to get situation that you lay down with 20 HP left of armor with going up armor regen... but you are count like dead body.
Count lag to case and you get situation as in eve.. you have 'plenty' HP and you can warp out... but boom...
Also client update is limited to 1 sec + lag +animation.
Just be more aware and bail out faster.
Not much time left...
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:50:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I'm not even gone 5 seconds and my thread has turned into an armor vs shields debate.
Omg
I guess I will be testing this out then at some point
aHP/s has no delay. But what could happen is that someone shoots you, doing more damage than your repair Rate. Might just be a lil feelin yknow?
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:17:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Nah, i just want to survive in this armor meta... With every anti-shield thing buffed to kill armor suits... Plus our generally low eHP... It's saddening. And we haven't gotten any attention as of late.
Shields = hard mode
You know, I could bring you lots of math and different points to show just how TINY the disparity is, and how it only applies to some playstyles and suit types. But I did that far too many times, and I've lost interest in explaining the same thing over and over again. Ya'll never learn when facts are in your face. Nahh think about it. A shield suit has to dedicate all slots to sHP to be effective. And we all know that this armor meta is why anti shield weapons were buffed. Also, with armor having the logistical support... Might barely be a difference 1v1 w/ cover, but... How much freedoms to armor suits get compared to shields? While shield suits have to dedicate lows to reducing delay, armor suits can dedicate highs to killing potential. Also, with the heavy resource costs for sHP, fitting is much harder. Which is why I say shield is hardmode... Actually, when you dedicate all of your resources to tank, shield tanks are stronger than armor tanks. You have the choice between utility and tank, we only get the choice of utility in our high slots. Suuuuurre. I don't know tbh... Because an effective shield tank have only tank as a choice. These suits at pro come like this: 515-530 sHP 590-630 sHP (rare case) 707 sHP All with 1.6 delay. But to get to that, near max resource skills are needed.. Or you'll be stressing on CPU/PG. Then, if we try utility, our fits are gimped.. Unless it's special fit. So we can choose utility, but thats giving away precious sHP or sHP/s or delay.
And what's the problem with that?
1.6 delay + 50hp/s + 620HP~ (you can get over 600HP and still have 50hp/s) is pretty damn powerful.
You're stressing your suit yes, but on the other hand you can increase your delay slightly for a huge increase in either CPU/PG, allowing you to fit an absurd amount.
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