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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 19:38:00 -
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This just happened to my squad in domination (train map) again. Second time in a row that we had an insanely lopsided match on that map. When we first loaded in, it was 12v8, and the numbers just kept dropping from there.
Nobody was put in the match to replace the mercs that left. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9624
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:04:00 -
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Matchmaking could have gone full Spkr again... or, even more scary, there weren't any players searching for a match.
@Ripley_Riley
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Spaceman-Rob
Third Degree Burns.
790
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:06:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:This just happened to my squad in domination (train map) again. Second time in a row that we had an insanely lopsided match on that map. When we first loaded in, it was 12v8, and the numbers just kept dropping from there. Nobody was put in the match to replace the mercs that left.
Mashed potato is how the last match I saw you in went lol
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
543
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:08:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHA APPIE !!! He deserved it anyway.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:11:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Matchmaking could have gone full Spkr again... or, even more scary, there weren't any players searching for a match.
Then why on earth were the two teams unbalanced to begin with?
Spaceman-Rob wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:This just happened to my squad in domination (train map) again. Second time in a row that we had an insanely lopsided match on that map. When we first loaded in, it was 12v8, and the numbers just kept dropping from there. Nobody was put in the match to replace the mercs that left. Mashed potato is how the last match I saw you in went lol
Yup. My entire squad was lagging really badly- you shot one of them while behind a wall at one point and everyone was blue shielding when we shot them.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9625
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:15:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Matchmaking could have gone full Spkr again... or, even more scary, there weren't any players searching for a match. Then why on earth were the two teams unbalanced to begin with? Because one team's mu scores may have been higher than the other team's mu scores... so they gave the other team an advantage by allowing them to have a few more players.
@Ripley_Riley
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:27:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Matchmaking could have gone full Spkr again... or, even more scary, there weren't any players searching for a match. Then why on earth were the two teams unbalanced to begin with? Because one team's mu scores may have been higher than the other team's mu scores... so they gave the other team an advantage by allowing them to have a few more players.
And not replacing anyone who left?
The last 2 matches I've been in have been full and there has been minimal wait for battles (<1 minute). I would prefer a 2 minute wait and full match :P |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9625
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:29:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:And not replacing anyone who left?
The last 2 matches I've been in have been full and there has been minimal wait for battles (<1 minute). I would prefer a 2 minute wait and full match :P Not replacing players who leave is a ****-up on the matchmaker's part. Not denying that.
The priority for the matchmaker now is to achieve mu balance. Team size seems to take a backseat to mu balance; so long as both teams have 10+ players then the match kicks off.
@Ripley_Riley
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:And not replacing anyone who left?
The last 2 matches I've been in have been full and there has been minimal wait for battles (<1 minute). I would prefer a 2 minute wait and full match :P Not replacing players who leave is a ****-up on the matchmaker's part. Not denying that. The priority for the matchmaker now is to achieve mu balance. Team size seems to take a backseat to mu balance; so long as both teams have 10+ players then the match kicks off.
Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. |
DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1038
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:45:00 -
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On April first this game became a joke.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9626
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:49:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches.
@Ripley_Riley
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5988
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:56:00 -
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I don't understand. Potatoes are great! |
DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1038
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play?
Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended?
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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7th Son 7
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
781
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:00:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:And not replacing anyone who left?
The last 2 matches I've been in have been full and there has been minimal wait for battles (<1 minute). I would prefer a 2 minute wait and full match :P Not replacing players who leave is a ****-up on the matchmaker's part. Not denying that. The priority for the matchmaker now is to achieve mu balance. Team size seems to take a backseat to mu balance; so long as both teams have 10+ players then the match kicks off. Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12.
I do hope these kinks will be worked out soon. ^ These types of matches end with 1 of 3 things, 1) leave battle like others start to do 2) switch to Apex and guerilla warfare( god forbid you don't have an APEX) and, 3) start losing money on your suits if your fighting for your team to stay in the battle. I understand mu score but 8/10 times your just guna get a little rekt.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9626
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:03:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play? Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended? That sucks I guess. My matches have been remarkably balanced fights, with neither me stomping or getting stomped. Are you soloing? Don't do that.
@Ripley_Riley
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DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1038
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:08:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play? Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended? That sucks I guess. My matches have been remarkably balanced fights, with neither me stomping or getting stomped. Are you soloing? Don't do that. Yes I was solo. I know a squad helps the situation but I thought the matchmaking tweaks were for newer players? Newer players don't have squads to join right off the bat.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2316
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:10:00 -
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When did they stop? Hell, the only thing I've noticed this month is that the team with less players runs less proto to protect their ISK while most of the players on the team that didn't get shafted run full proto the entire match. So from my point of view it never stopped and has only gotten worse.
Play the fucking objective you goddamn dipshits.
Rated [TV-MA]
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3874
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:14:00 -
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I dunno but I can certainly say that picture was taken with one.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:44:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I dunno but I can certainly say that picture was taken with one.
Yeah, it looked ok quality on my phone, but apparently it didn't translate into any other device. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3694
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:46:00 -
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Not matchmaking's fault.
Its the players leaving.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3695
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:50:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play? Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended? I call BS... For one reason:
You say you didn't receive ISK for not breaking the WP threshold. However, new toons are not subject to the threshold like vets are.
Rest may be true, but credibility dropped. Not to say matchmaking isn't perfect though, but it is better, admit it or not.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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7th Son 7
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
782
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:58:00 -
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@ Lugmos, you are correct, I hav'nt had so many evenly matched games in Dust in such close succession since the mm update.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
553
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:16:00 -
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At 3/2 with 750 WP I can only assume that he did some pretty impressive hack farming on you guys. |
Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
217
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:37:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:At 3/2 with 750 WP I can only assume that he did some pretty impressive hack farming on you guys.
He had a tank, he got quite a few +75s from our vehicles. |
DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1039
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Posted - 2015.04.23 23:17:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play? Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended? I call BS... For one reason: You say you didn't receive ISK for not breaking the WP threshold. However, new toons are not subject to the threshold like vets are. Rest may be true, but credibility dropped. Not to say matchmaking isn't perfect though, but it is better, admit it or not.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1040
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Posted - 2015.04.23 23:22:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:LUGMOS wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Both teams didn't have 10. The enemy started with 8, while we had 12. Then send that screen shot and the rough time the match took place to [email protected] I believe Rattati is still wanting examples of broken matches. Do these devs even log in and play? Game has been ****** for me since April first. I even created a new toon on a new psn and guess what happened right after academy? First game was 8 vs 14 I was against a full squad of 1up second game was still lopsided and vs outer heaven both games I was put on the short handed team vs proto squads with no so, no isk, no wp, no w/l and hardly a kd ratio. Now how is this working as intended? I call BS... For one reason: You say you didn't receive ISK for not breaking the WP threshold. However, new toons are not subject to the threshold like vets are. Rest may be true, but credibility dropped. Not to say matchmaking isn't perfect though, but it is better, admit it or not. why would I lie about something involving a game? I created a new toon on a new psn and got thrown to the sharks right after the academy. If all things mentioned above are factored into matchmaking then yes I had close to no warpoints, isk, sp, w/l, or k/d. So my credibility is just fine.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
678
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Posted - 2015.04.23 23:25:00 -
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oh you KB/M user
STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
223
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Posted - 2015.04.24 00:19:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:oh you KB/M user
Pretty sure my keyboard skillz can't be blamed for this >.> |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1638
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Posted - 2015.04.24 01:32:00 -
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Overall I have found matchmaking to improve gameplay. I have had many more really close matches, one literally coming down to the last clone in Dom. However there are still WTF moments, like my 8 million SP alt playing against the exact same players as my 45 million SP alt even though my monthly W/L ratio is .5 on it and 1.5 on my 45 million one. I have to say though that it might make sense because I am doing ok with it.
I think vets are the ones most put out by the changes. I have seen threads with vets complaining that pubs are TOO competitive now, which cracks me up and underlines the problem matchmaking was meant to fix. I think it has largely worked with the biggest remaining issue is people leaving matches.
Because, that's why.
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DozersMouse XIII
Nos Nothi
1041
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Posted - 2015.04.24 01:44:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Overall I have found matchmaking to improve gameplay. I have had many more really close matches, one literally coming down to the last clone in Dom. However there are still WTF moments, like my 8 million SP alt playing against the exact same players as my 45 million SP alt even though my monthly W/L ratio is .5 on it and 1.5 on my 45 million one. I have to say though that it might make sense because I am doing ok with it.
I think vets are the ones most put out by the changes. I have seen threads with vets complaining that pubs are TOO competitive now, which cracks me up and underlines the problem matchmaking was meant to fix. I think it has largely worked with the biggest remaining issue is people leaving matches. I am a vet and I never have had such bad numbers. Running solo I'm getting lopsided games against stacked squads and games that are half over and already lost. I've even qued into the defeat screen at least 3 times today alone. It's not that we don't want a challenge, I hardly ever leave a game but this 1 sided **** is for the birds.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3704
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Posted - 2015.04.24 01:46:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:I hardly ever leave a game but this 1 sided **** is for the birds. Implying it wasn't 1 sided before
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2317
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:39:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:I hardly ever leave a game but this 1 sided **** is for the birds. Implying it wasn't 1 sided before The only time I can recall it not being one sided was back in Chromosome. I used to say just turn off Scotty and go back to randomly throwing us in matches like in Chrome, but so much is different than from a year ago it might not work as good as I think. I still think Scotty should be killed; then replace him with Bobby so when he does something stupid we can make a TV reference.
I just realized I'm talking about a piece of programming as if it's a person.
Play the fucking objective you goddamn dipshits.
Rated [TV-MA]
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
223
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:50:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Overall I have found matchmaking to improve gameplay. I have had many more really close matches, one literally coming down to the last clone in Dom. However there are still WTF moments, like my 8 million SP alt playing against the exact same players as my 45 million SP alt even though my monthly W/L ratio is .5 on it and 1.5 on my 45 million one. I have to say though that it might make sense because I am doing ok with it.
I think vets are the ones most put out by the changes. I have seen threads with vets complaining that pubs are TOO competitive now, which cracks me up and underlines the problem matchmaking was meant to fix. I think it has largely worked with the biggest remaining issue is people leaving matches. I am a vet and I never have had such bad numbers. Running solo I'm getting lopsided games against stacked squads and games that are half over and already lost. I've even qued into the defeat screen at least 3 times today alone. It's not that we don't want a challenge, I hardly ever leave a game but this 1 sided **** is for the birds.
Yup, I have pretty much stopped playing solo because I kept being put into matches where I couldn't even spawn in before I got the defeat screen. It would take at least 2-4 attempts for me to get into a fresh match running solo most nights.
I've even taken to using squad finder. Apparently the majority of people who also use it are under 13 and think voice changers are hilarious.
This match in particular did not appear to have any squads on the enemy team, however there were 3 small squads on my side.
Matchmaking had actually been really good for a few days, and I'd been having fun in really close battles, but today was constant redlining by one side or the other.
I have also noticed that my 8.something mil SP alt has been being put in battles with full proto squads, whereas this account (26mil SP) has seen much, much less proto and far fewer organised squads when I have been playing solo. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1639
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:24:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:I hardly ever leave a game but this 1 sided **** is for the birds. Implying it wasn't 1 sided before
The lopsidedness is is spread more evenly now, hence the complaints. You hardly see newer players complaining anymore.
Because, that's why.
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