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P14GU3
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:14:00 -
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The only way ewar will be fixed is if there is actually a "margin of error." Right now damps/scans either work, or they dont. There needs to be say a 50% chance to scan within a certain db. Until that happens, dampers will cry about scanners, and scanners will cry about dampers. They are both horribly broken right now. Get under 18db or whatever, you win. If not, you lose.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:59:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote:P14GU3 wrote:The only way ewar will be fixed is if there is actually a "margin of error." Right now damps/scans either work, or they dont. There needs to be say a 50% chance to scan within a certain db. Until that happens, dampers will cry about scanners, and scanners will cry about dampers. They are both horribly broken right now. Get under 18db or whatever, you win. If not, you lose. But you don't exactly "win" by getting under 18 db. All you end up doing is making a gimped and expensive fit with low utility and combat efficiency in exchange for not being highlighted on the mini-map. I've played matches where enemy squads had one gal logi spamming scans while I was running my most dampened gk.0 Scout, I entered there established area in an attempt to hack, drop uplinks and maybe take out the gallogi. You know what happened? The gallogi pointed his scanner in my general direction from inside a building and when he did 3 players started running in my general direction and I had to make a run for it, I then get a "Scan Attempt Prevented" message, usually I would smile when I see that, but this time it was different, I saw all 3 enemies switch their running direction and end up facing me, even though I was cloaked and had a good distance between them I was insta kiled by a viziam scrambler... so, even though I went to such great lenghts to avoid a detailed scan I was still being probed by a different kind of scan, one that is unable to display my exact location but can still estimate my general location. Those should be properties made for two different types of scanners, not all in one. Sure, the enemy team had some excellent comms and teamplay but it doesn't change the fact that the scanner still served its purpose without applying it's full effects on me, and that just isn't right. Were you alone? Did you have bluedots near you? If the scanner lit up your friendlies, they moved towards them, and you got unlucky.
If you were alone, someone happened to see you (from behind possibly?) and relayed the info to the squad. There is a slight possibility they moved towards you based on the fact there was a "margin of error," but they still wouldn't have known exactly where you were.
I run the GK.0 scout as well, usually with just 2 complex damps because that will beat nearly every scanner. I stay alone and flank around the outside of objectives/chokepoints. TBH I find the gal scout to be one of the easiest suits to play in the game. You just have to learn how to take advantage of the element of surprise. STAY AWAY FROM THE BLOB!
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:11:00 -
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I understand what you are saying about the magin of error message, but did you not say you run a cloak? When you get scanned, find a hiding spot, cloak up, and wait for them. I have had soooo many people run past me in my scout (and I dont even cloak bro.) only for me to shoot them in the back as they pass.
Most people are really bad at this game and cant see anyone that isn't on their radar. If they catch you, they are probably not your average bluedot, and chances are they would have caught you without a scanner anyways.
Edit: also stop hacking alone. I have learned, scout or not, hacking alone is a death sentence.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:39:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote: I was pitted against a stomp squad... the type that stick together and Aim Down Sights while moving into a corner swinging their scopes all over corners and edges to see if anything red lights up and I ran in a direction with an open field because it was the only area in the map that nobody had bothered to watch. The perfect place to attempt to gain entry into a heavily guarded place. My only interest was to enter the objective, do my best to slay the scanner, drop an uplink and depending on the situation either pop equipment or hack the objective. I'm not an explosive frisbee freestyler scout. I also seem to be terribly unlucky.
You sound like you have just been unlucky lately. the new matchmaking is hard on scouts because there aren't as many mindless bluedots to wreck. Most vets have learned to counter all but the best scouts.
We all have bad games. Ive had matches where I went 30-0 in my scout and others were I have gone 7-11. The scout niche doesn't work for/against everyone.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 17:01:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote: You want a counter? Is it that hard to kill something that's got about 1/3 of your HP and lacks any form of tank whatsoever? The Scanner is the counter to profile dampening but once someone makes all the needed sacrifices to "evade" that counter your left with disposable fits that are only somewhat survivable when you play in squads... and I play most of my time solo. Don't tell me that the magical solution to countering a counter is teamwork because this game is practically incapable of diferentiating teamwork from stomping.
I felt kinda bad for you and was truly wanting to help until this comment. The ONLY time I really run my scout is solo. I play logi or AV mostly in squads. I do fairly well 9-10 times as a solo scout. You cant use the HP excuse (my scout has over half the HP of my logi) when you get the first attack. If you are playing a scout right, you can kill people before they notice you. The reason I die as a scout is usually because I was seen before I could attack. Sorry man, but that is the life of a scout.
You can't run solo in a team based game and complain about "stompers." Can you blame a person for wanting to play with their friends? There is strength in numbers.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 17:10:00 -
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My gal scout has around 400 ehp. That is ewar/speed fit.
My gal logi has ~650. Also ewar/speed fit.
I think you are exaggerating a bit.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 17:26:00 -
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Glad we could help?
On a serious note, squad up with some others scouts and play a skirm. I have learned from scouts better than me (E-Rock, Lowdevil, Nine Inch Weapon to name a few) how to really play a scout. Even running around silently behind a good scout and watching his tactics can help tremendously. You dont have to be a slayer to be a good scout.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.04.23 17:58:00 -
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I said don't hack alone. When you first run to the point (while its uncaptured) you know everyone is going straight for it. Unless you are a speed/hack setup min scout, someone is going to shoot you in the back. Soo, wait for them, kill them and then hack. Your team will be arriving shortly to back you up (hopefully.)
If the point is controlled by the enemy, and there are enemies nearby, the second that point flashes, they will head straight for it, invisible or not. You will end up dead. Let a squad clear the point while you hack. Let them move in first.
Hack turrets, supply depots, CRUs. Scouts are the new slayer logis. They can play support and still slay. Lay uplinks 50-100m from the point and guard them until a squad spawns in and moves to the point.
Just because you aren't in a squad, doesn't mean you are always alone. Move in to the blob when things are going well for your team, then GTFO, because their blob will be coming back. Pick off stragglers as they do.
I hate to use the term "get gud" to people who seem to be legitimately struggling and not just an idiot, but seriously get gud. Learn to play a scout instead of crying about your own inequities. As I said before, Gal scout is the easiest suit in the game IMO. I have never used a scanner on my scout. I haven't used the cloak since the nerf and still end up as a top 5 player most times, and Im not even a good scout.
Plenty of good advice has been givin hear but you dont want to hear it.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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