DUST Search - Active scanner is OP please help

poopy pantzs wrote:

Darkstalker Astrea wrote:

Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD

I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful

Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans

When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem.

One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong.

Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans.

What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part

My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak)

Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto
Example:
Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db
scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db
Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db

You could add other variants that do different things
Such as
vehicle scanner
Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges)
Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time
Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from

Go play COD scrubby


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Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem. One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong. Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans. What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak) Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto Example: Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db You could add other variants that do different things Such as vehicle scanner Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges) Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:36:00 - [2] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Inb4 use damps Inb4 skill Galscout Inb4 valid tactic /endthread --- D Bag You are making my point ( gal scout is one of maybe two suits that can get under a proto scanner with damps) Never said it wasn't a valid tactic I said its OP Maybe the internet is bad in your country or you just can't read
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 20:27:00 - [3] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Darkstalker Astrea wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Inb4 use damps Inb4 skill Galscout Inb4 valid tactic /endthread --- D Bag You are making my point ( gal scout is one of maybe two suits that can get under a proto scanner with damps) Never said it wasn't a valid tactic I said its OP Maybe the internet is bad in your country or you just can't read Hmmm, yes. The forum is not strong in this one. But seriously, look up inb4 and reread my post. It's funnier that way --- Hahaha I still think my point is being made But GG
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 20:30:00 - [4] - Quote poopy pantzs wrote: Darkstalker Astrea wrote: Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem. One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong. Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans. What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak) Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto Example: Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db You could add other variants that do different things Such as vehicle scanner Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges) Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from Go play COD scrubby Moron I don't play cod There is nothing scrub-ier than you using your proto scanner and scanning EVERYONE except for two suits
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 20:32:00 - [5] - Quote The Eristic wrote: I've always thought the scanner should light up the player using it, too, and/or the "Scanned/Prevented" messages should include distance + direction. At minimum this is all I would ask for I threw in a bunch of other ideas because I didn't want to just bi tch about it
Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.04.22 21:03:00 - [6] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: Oh right then only allow proto reptools, hives and uplinks to support proto suits. If you dont have a proto suit you are not allowed to spawn on the proto uplink. Sounds just as stupid as your proposal. What the crap are you talking about? Proto rep tool? - doesn't scan Proto hives? - nope not a scanner Proto uplinks? - mmmm have a slight passive scan but not what I'm talking about Proto suit support? Even if I was some dev overlord and had all kinds of control I would never want suits to not have support. The active scanner is too strong imo, I think I made a good case as to why it is. My suggestion was to limit it's ability to scan almost every single suit in one snapshot I'm not reducing range or radius I'm basically making the user ask a question " which dropsuit am I most worried about " And If you said "well I can see heavies and medium suits aren't that big of a deal so I choose scout" Give yourself a cookie and grab the scanner that scans 21db - 17db (which is much lower than the current proto scanner btw)