DUST Search - Remove aim assist.

JJ'S wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Vell0cet wrote:

I'm pretty sure we have some of the weakest AA in the industry. Not to mention our control sensitivity is complete garbage. Compare the controls to a game like Destiny (with AA off) and it's night/day to what we have. In Destiny you have fine precision aiming without (constantly overshooting your intended target) but can still rotate quickly. I'm pretty sure there is a non-linear relationship between right stick movement and the aiming reticule moment speed.

Not to mention as others have said, that AA is new player friendly. This chest-beating macho bullsh*t is pathetic. It's supposed to be a "thinking-man's shooter," not a "master awkward controls to prove how elite I am" shooter.

Destiny's AA is so strong lol

That said, there isn't all that much "thinking" to be had in DUST over any other game. Be better than your opponent, make sure to put stuff in your dropsuit / vehicles slots, then zerg rush

When Destiny has a 1.2 second TTK in PVP with one of the best primary guns in the game... Which is about where DUST is..with pro weapons and suit competition..

Somewhere CCP changed the heart of DUST's gameplay to trade for an attempt to emulate other shooters this IP was never designed to compete against.

Regardless it lies at the very concept to what this IP is that makes Aim assist so off putting. When you die, you loose personal assets every time.

Thinking that a game mechanic put in place to artificially augment a players aim to have the ability kill you and to remove your personal assets, be it ISK or even AURUM based items... Just makes the process largely annoying? Compared to before where it actually made the process exhilarating,

having two players square toe to toe betting their personal assets on their personal skill, and when loosing having a vengeance moment like no other... Remember the players name... Building a repore..

None of this happens in DUST anymore... You kill players in seconds, it's meh... you move on and it means nothing seconds later...

I still hear players talk about epic fights they had in public matches against each other before aim assist was implemented... It was gameplay that created truly memorably experiences..

Now Aim assist is just a game mechanic that you learn to use... And once you do it makes any challenge or skill based gameplay in momentary encounters moot...

Now this is what DUST 514 is... You learn to use the mechanic instead of learning how to aim and play the game.

CoD in space with boring meaningless combat. They took the heart out of DUST and tried to placate us with Shinny.

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Jalame La Bola Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:29:00 - [1] - Quote That is all.
Mex-0 579	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:30:00 - [2] - Quote No. That is all. BWAH
Jalame La Bola Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:32:00 - [3] - Quote Vayase a cagar.
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 987	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:40:00 - [4] - Quote Jalame La Bola wrote: Vayase a cagar. No sir, I will no take a sh!t PIE Lasers4life "See these marks... Don't overheat your gun"
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7748	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:44:00 - [5] - Quote fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 108	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:47:00 - [6] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: No. That is all. scrub that is all
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 108	Posted - 2015.04.22 02:48:00 - [7] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6152	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:03:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... Fix your aiming. I'm connected to the internet via a potato, yet my hit detection is fine, and I've never used aim assist. Some details can be ignored
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7749	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:12:00 - [9] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 851	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:22:00 - [10] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: No. That is all. YES ! and Fight LIKE A MAN !!! Real men don't need Help Shooting a GUN ! last time i checked baby's needed help ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!

devjo88 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 39	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:25:00 - [11] - Quote remove your face former director of ScReWeD uP InC one must look into h3ll before he can speak of heaven-Bertrand russell
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18428	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:26:00 - [12] - Quote devjo88 wrote: remove your face SCHNAP! GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 851	Posted - 2015.04.22 03:28:00 - [13] - Quote Jalame La Bola wrote: That is all. Roger that FTW ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Jalame La Bola Shining Flame Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2015.04.22 04:03:00 - [14] - Quote A los que usan asistencia de apunteria, no sean invertebrados innatos y respondan.
dzizur Nos Nothi 251	Posted - 2015.04.22 05:40:00 - [15] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Your lack of aim and aim assist ;)
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1081	Posted - 2015.04.22 05:44:00 - [16] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Fight LIKE A MAN !!! Said the guy in the tank hiding in the redline.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1191	Posted - 2015.04.22 06:08:00 - [17] - Quote They should get rid of aim assist if they get rid of kb/m support, and nerfed strafing to complete garbage... GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
DDx77 The Exemplars 204	Posted - 2015.04.22 06:46:00 - [18] - Quote Remove KB/M and you can remove aim assist What the hell are you complaining about it for? May the Dark shine your way
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16029	Posted - 2015.04.22 06:57:00 - [19] - Quote ITT: People who blame their badness on aim assist. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 540	Posted - 2015.04.22 07:30:00 - [20] - Quote dzizur wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Your lack of aim and aim assist ;) LMAO no. Have you been playing for a day only? Hit detection is so broken, and all aim assist does is trying to compensate it with a random bullet magnetism. I'm not bad, I aim right, I've been playing a lot, and hit detection is broken. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )

RD Burns Third Degree Burns. 26	Posted - 2015.04.22 09:34:00 - [21] - Quote Jalame La Bola wrote: That is all. Maybe you would prefer L1 snap to target like Battlefield and Cod has?
dzizur Nos Nothi 252	Posted - 2015.04.22 11:04:00 - [22] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: dzizur wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Your lack of aim and aim assist ;) LMAO no. Have you been playing for a day only? Hit detection is so broken, and all aim assist does is trying to compensate it with a random bullet magnetism. I'm not bad, I aim right, I've been playing a lot, and hit detection is broken. Actually I've been playing since 2013.. Hit detection IS BROKEN, but it doesn't mean we have to "fix" it by homing bullets.. If it is a great way to fix it, maybe we should just introduce d20 into the game? let people throw the dice and decide who dies..
Michael Arck 6211	Posted - 2015.04.22 11:08:00 - [23] - Quote Lol! Majority of GD threads = dumpster diving for tuna Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Poison Diego Vengeance Unbound RUST415 590	Posted - 2015.04.22 11:18:00 - [24] - Quote Good sir, I dear you to go to settings turn it off and play for a whole day. Youy will realize then how severally dumb your suggestion is. except if you are a keyboard warrior and wants to exploit dust by having an advantage that keyboard warriors have and sustain it to the maximum level. You have to realize that if such a hasty thing were to happen, CCP would have no choice but to remove compatibility with mouse and keyboard due to the sustained and increased advantage. Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1940	Posted - 2015.04.22 11:46:00 - [25] - Quote Even though I believe the AA is somewhat too strong, I also believe there should be some form of Aim Assist for controllers. But not "Auto Aim" which helps semi auto weps so much. (I am a MKB user myself but used controller for the first half a year of playing Dust) Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Gyn Wallace Ready to Play 337	Posted - 2015.04.22 13:39:00 - [26] - Quote I don't believe aim assist for controllers should be completely removed, but CCP should absolutely publish on the web (rather than modifying the game client) leader boards that include whether the leading killers are using kb/m or controllers. If wildly greater proportion of the top 100 killers are using controllers, they should scale back the aim assist, effectively shrinking the hit boxes for controller users, from being roughly three or four times larger than the hit boxes kb/m users are shooting at, to something slightly more similar, until the controller users don't dominate the top of the leader boards. That CCP won't share that information with us, is a pretty good indicator that the ratio of top killers using controllers vs. kb/m is far enough out of proportion that it would call attention to how badly they've balanced the aim assist vs. non-aim assisted kb/m "support." Some imbalance is to be expected, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were zero or less than 5% of the top 100 killers using kb/m. CCP should shrink the effectively huge hit boxes for controller users, until the top 100 (or 200 or so) killers benefiting from controller aim assist drops below 66%. The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 346	Posted - 2015.04.22 13:43:00 - [27] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you You will notice the crappy hit detection on a weapon with low ROF Like the rail rifle,scrambler rifle and especially the plasma cannon. Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 346	Posted - 2015.04.22 13:46:00 - [28] - Quote Poison Diego wrote: Good sir, I dear you to go to settings turn it off and play for a whole day. Youy will realize then how severally dumb your suggestion is. except if you are a keyboard warrior and wants to exploit dust by having an advantage that keyboard warriors have and sustain it to the maximum level. You have to realize that if such a hasty thing were to happen, CCP would have no choice but to remove compatibility with mouse and keyboard due to the sustained and increased advantage. If no one had aim assist on I can assure you super strafing will be gone or quite a while meaning you will actually need to aim instead of super strafing and letting aim assist do the dirty work Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
Mex-0 585	Posted - 2015.04.22 14:54:00 - [29] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Mex-0 wrote: No. That is all. scrub that is all To the war room. That is all. BWAH
Stan Dan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 56	Posted - 2015.04.22 15:28:00 - [30] - Quote I "super strafe" with acr or acr and prefer no aa. It tends to mess up my own aiming at close range, especially if multiple enemies are involved. That being said if aa helps new player survive their first few months good, this game can be tough for new players right now. We need all of the few we get to stick around if we want dust to stick around.

Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 2973	Posted - 2015.04.22 16:16:00 - [31] - Quote dzizur wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Your lack of aim and aim assist ;) Your attitude reminds me of this. Playing without aim assist does not automatically make you a better player than those who do play with aim assist. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Day 6/30 exclusively Minja
Ku Shala 1394	Posted - 2015.04.22 16:38:00 - [32] - Quote for your safety if you are 16 years of age or older please leave this thread. Shala out! *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
dzizur Nos Nothi 258	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:22:00 - [33] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: dzizur wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you I don't care what you play with or without. anyone with a brain knows that hit detection is bad. If hit detection is not the real problem tell me what is. Your lack of aim and aim assist ;) Your attitude reminds me of this. Playing without aim assist does not automatically make you a better player than those who do play with aim assist. Have you thought about the possibility that I'm actually using aim assist because otherwise I would feel at disadvantage towards people who use it? Yes, my gun game sucks, but why should I be killed by a guy whose gun game is even worse but just got lucky? /offtop As for that thread that you linked - cloak has very little use because it puts you at disadvantage when switching equipment, takes up one eq slot, and a good portion of your cpu and pg, while not even giving invisibility. that's my opinion , but that's a different topic
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3657	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:24:00 - [34] - Quote Jalame La Bola wrote: A los que usan asistencia de apunteria, no sean invertebrados innatos y respondan. Vaya y... CHUPA PITOOOOOO!!! Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
DEATH THE KlD Seven Kin of Purgatory 171	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:24:00 - [35] - Quote Jalame La Bola wrote: That is all. Yes please.. I want this game to be more skill oriented not look that way and it aims for you
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3657	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:26:00 - [36] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: for your safety if you are 16 years of age or older please leave this thread. Shala out! Normally, I would need to wait a few days until I'm 16... But fuk duh pohleece Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 356	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:26:00 - [37] - Quote Hit detection broken. People strafe through lasers... AA LR vs no AA LR. AA will win. But AA helps hit detection.... But those are just thoughts of mine. Hmm. The ADS tourney! Join today!
DUST Fiend 16511	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:27:00 - [38] - Quote ITT: People think DUST takes skill, with or without AA *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3657	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:30:00 - [39] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ITT: People think DUST takes skill, with or without AA ^ If you remove AA, remove: Active scanners Passive scanners Double hardened Maddies ... etc. That is all Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16030	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:32:00 - [40] - Quote Those who do well with aim assist will continue to do well without it. Aim assist helps newbies more than it does veterans. My K/D dropped sharply when aim assist was introduced, because new players could actually hit me now, and I had to adjust to that. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*

JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 102	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:38:00 - [41] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... I play without AA don't whine about hit detection if you don't even know what the real problem is please and thank you AA is still active with it "off" in the settings... Don't be silly. Next thing you will tell me the "Texture Detail" feature in the options actually does something for game performance... If you have a DS3/4 in your hands... Aim assist is on. But hey? whatever makes you feel good?
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3012	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:52:00 - [42] - Quote I'm pretty sure we have some of the weakest AA in the industry. Not to mention our control sensitivity is complete garbage. Compare the controls to a game like Destiny (with AA off) and it's night/day to what we have. In Destiny you have fine precision aiming without (constantly overshooting your intended target) but can still rotate quickly. I'm pretty sure there is a non-linear relationship between right stick movement and the aiming reticule moment speed. Not to mention as others have said, that AA is new player friendly. This chest-beating macho bullsh*t is pathetic. It's supposed to be a "thinking-man's shooter," not a "master awkward controls to prove how elite I am" shooter. Best PvE idea ever!
DUST Fiend 16517	Posted - 2015.04.22 19:57:00 - [43] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I'm pretty sure we have some of the weakest AA in the industry. Not to mention our control sensitivity is complete garbage. Compare the controls to a game like Destiny (with AA off) and it's night/day to what we have. In Destiny you have fine precision aiming without (constantly overshooting your intended target) but can still rotate quickly. I'm pretty sure there is a non-linear relationship between right stick movement and the aiming reticule moment speed. Not to mention as others have said, that AA is new player friendly. This chest-beating macho bullsht is pathetic. It's supposed to be a "thinking-man's shooter," not a "master awkward controls to prove how elite I am" shooter. Destiny's AA is so strong lol That said, there isn't all that much "thinking" to be had in DUST over any other game. Be better than your opponent, make sure to put stuff in your dropsuit / vehicles slots, then zerg rush "My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Stan Dan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 56	Posted - 2015.04.22 20:00:00 - [44] - Quote Keep in mind that aa pulls you aim/bullets to the center of mass. This means that a skilled shooter without aa will come out on top due to getting headshots. If your truly skilled at this game then aa makes no difference.
TEBOW BAGGINS 1739	Posted - 2015.04.22 21:03:00 - [45] - Quote i agree but it won't happen.. ppl who are against it are the minority.. it's the plague of PC gamers switching to console- "i can't aim without aim assist and i speak for everyone"- they won we lost.. you will waste a lot of energy trying to get rid of aim assist and clashing with it's proponents. we tried 1.5 years ago and lost the argument as is apparent. they won't remove aim assist it is what they perceive that sells a game these days. we are enjoying PS2 for now it's aim assist is very weak if even there, but in good time they will buff it there also. no company has the balls anymore to say no to aim assist and rolling back on it is just out of the question, TLDR your wasting your time.
TEBOW BAGGINS 1739	Posted - 2015.04.22 21:08:00 - [46] - Quote Stan Dan wrote: Keep in mind that aa pulls you aim/bullets to the center of mass. This means that a skilled shooter without aa will come out on top due to getting headshots. If your truly skilled at this game then aa makes no difference. yea also AA tracks the wrong target often in CQC.. i want to hit the guy with low health not waste ammo on the guy next to him with full shields.. we actually shouted down it's removal in star wars battlefront 1 forums.. but that was in 2004 before the culture of AA had permeated the industry.
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 103	Posted - 2015.04.22 21:51:00 - [47] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I'm pretty sure we have some of the weakest AA in the industry. Not to mention our control sensitivity is complete garbage. Compare the controls to a game like Destiny (with AA off) and it's night/day to what we have. In Destiny you have fine precision aiming without (constantly overshooting your intended target) but can still rotate quickly. I'm pretty sure there is a non-linear relationship between right stick movement and the aiming reticule moment speed. Not to mention as others have said, that AA is new player friendly. This chest-beating macho bullsh*t is pathetic. It's supposed to be a "thinking-man's shooter," not a "master awkward controls to prove how elite I am" shooter. Destiny's AA is so strong lol That said, there isn't all that much "thinking" to be had in DUST over any other game. Be better than your opponent, make sure to put stuff in your dropsuit / vehicles slots, then zerg rush When Destiny has a 1.2 second TTK in PVP with one of the best primary guns in the game... Which is about where DUST is..with pro weapons and suit competition.. Somewhere CCP changed the heart of DUST's gameplay to trade for an attempt to emulate other shooters this IP was never designed to compete against. Regardless it lies at the very concept to what this IP is that makes Aim assist so off putting. When you die, you loose personal assets every time. Thinking that a game mechanic put in place to artificially augment a players aim to have the ability kill you and to remove your personal assets, be it ISK or even AURUM based items... Just makes the process largely annoying? Compared to before where it actually made the process exhilarating, having two players square toe to toe betting their personal assets on their personal skill, and when loosing having a vengeance moment like no other... Remember the players name... Building a repore.. None of this happens in DUST anymore... You kill players in seconds, it's meh... you move on and it means nothing seconds later... I still hear players talk about epic fights they had in public matches against each other before aim assist was implemented... It was gameplay that created truly memorably experiences.. Now Aim assist is just a game mechanic that you learn to use... And once you do it makes any challenge or skill based gameplay in momentary encounters moot... Now this is what DUST 514 is... You learn to use the mechanic instead of learning how to aim and play the game. CoD in space with boring meaningless combat. They took the heart out of DUST and tried to placate us with Shinny.
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3015	Posted - 2015.04.22 23:03:00 - [48] - Quote JJ'S wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I'm pretty sure we have some of the weakest AA in the industry. Not to mention our control sensitivity is complete garbage. Compare the controls to a game like Destiny (with AA off) and it's night/day to what we have. In Destiny you have fine precision aiming without (constantly overshooting your intended target) but can still rotate quickly. I'm pretty sure there is a non-linear relationship between right stick movement and the aiming reticule moment speed. Not to mention as others have said, that AA is new player friendly. This chest-beating macho bullsh*t is pathetic. It's supposed to be a "thinking-man's shooter," not a "master awkward controls to prove how elite I am" shooter. Destiny's AA is so strong lol That said, there isn't all that much "thinking" to be had in DUST over any other game. Be better than your opponent, make sure to put stuff in your dropsuit / vehicles slots, then zerg rush When Destiny has a 1.2 second TTK in PVP with one of the best primary guns in the game... Which is about where DUST is..with pro weapons and suit competition.. Somewhere CCP changed the heart of DUST's gameplay to trade for an attempt to emulate other shooters this IP was never designed to compete against. Regardless it lies at the very concept to what this IP is that makes Aim assist so off putting. When you die, you loose personal assets every time. Thinking that a game mechanic put in place to artificially augment a players aim to have the ability kill you and to remove your personal assets, be it ISK or even AURUM based items... Just makes the process largely annoying? Compared to before where it actually made the process exhilarating, having two players square toe to toe betting their personal assets on their personal skill, and when loosing having a vengeance moment like no other... Remember the players name... Building a repore.. None of this happens in DUST anymore... You kill players in seconds, it's meh... you move on and it means nothing seconds later... I still hear players talk about epic fights they had in public matches against each other before aim assist was implemented... It was gameplay that created truly memorably experiences.. Now Aim assist is just a game mechanic that you learn to use... And once you do it makes any challenge or skill based gameplay in momentary encounters moot... Now this is what DUST 514 is... You learn to use the mechanic instead of learning how to aim and play the game. CoD in space with boring meaningless combat. They took the heart out of DUST and tried to placate us with Shinny. If you see a real-life firefight, you don't see soldiers spastically dancing around the field. AA compensates for the fact that aiming with your thumb is awkward and much more difficult than using your entire arm as you would in real life. I'd rather play a game that's as much about the fits, positioning, timing, teamwork, etc. than about who is capable of spastically throttling their stick around to try to bullet-dance. It's an obnoxious mechanic. Aiming should play a role, but the idea that being good at hyper-strafe gameplay makes you elite is stupid. Best PvE idea ever!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 349	Posted - 2015.04.22 23:06:00 - [49] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: If you see a real-life firefight, you don't see soldiers spastically dancing around the field. AA compensates for the fact that aiming with your thumb is awkward and much more difficult than using your entire arm as you would in real life. I'd rather play a game that's as much about the fits, positioning, timing, teamwork, etc. than about who is capable of spastically throttling their stick around to try to bullet-dance. It's an obnoxious mechanic. Aiming should play a role, but the idea that being good at hyper-strafe gameplay makes you elite is stupid. Amen Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
DUST Fiend 16527	Posted - 2015.04.22 23:24:00 - [50] - Quote I still don't quite understand the issue. If you're not bad, then when you use AA like everyone else, you're on the same playing field, except you're better. If you turn off AA, then you're consciously playing at a disadvantage, and have no right to complain. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1085	Posted - 2015.04.23 03:27:00 - [51] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: fix hit detect first then i would not care as much if it were to be removed... You say this but tbh as far I remember, never used to worry that much about hit detection. Before they enabled AA fairly sure I used to kill stuff. As cat merc says, when they enabled hit detection all the bads who couldn't shoot for **** were suddenly killing things.


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