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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:57:00 -
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Forgive me for this but as of now dust's future is rather bleak in my perspective. I do hope I'm gravely mistaken.
But what are your thoughts?
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:01:00 -
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In my opinion, if it keeps getting fixed and moves to pc, yes. It might have another bad era, but that might be the last as it transitions on to pc. If not, then ps4. Advertising will really help.
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6113
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:12:00 -
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I think as soon as they move it to PC, CCP should have an event to finish up the PS3 by nuking every battle from orbit, and crashing everyone's PS3s simultaneously.
It shall be a bright future indeed. Blindingly bright, with radiation.
Some details can be ignored
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Super Sniper95
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
703
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:13:00 -
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Omg again this kind of treads? Jesus... |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
327
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:17:00 -
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Super Sniper95 wrote:Omg again this kind of treads? Jesus... Look man I am not one to make these kinds of threads.if You don't believe me thats fine. But seeing this game with so much potential left to such a small (but ridiculously dedicated) team makes me a bit bitter. I didn't want to make this thread but I still want answers so please bear with me
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings
1362
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:17:00 -
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Probably not
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:18:00 -
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DUST or this IP in general whatever it may evolve into will always be a niche product....
Sadly it has become confused and desperately tried to become CoD in space to chase after a playerbase they where never going to get.
Sadly in doing this they chased away their hardcore player base...
DUST currently recycles 80% of it's population every month. With 1-2, 2-3 year vets quitting every month aswell this list has gotten to 200-300 players max.
It is truly sad CCP didn't do what ever vet warned them to do in Uprising 1.0.... Which was to actually create an inuitive learning process for new players so that DUST could actually retain a few personal friends playing the game longer then a week.
Sadly this never happened and all that has, has pandered to the 2-3 month old player that CCP looses 3 months later because there is no point to even playing the game... Other then to shoot people... And CCP can't compete with their shooting mechanics with well established shooter brands...
CCP's one appeal in their style of game development was always the promise of continuous development on their brands to add and make them better... EVE has thrived because players knew there was never going to be an "EVE 2" ... The game they invest their time and effort into will always evolve and change in one shape or form and continue to be actively developed on.
Where Bungie will eventually release all their content for Destiny... And then start working on "Destiny 2"
Since "Rouge wedding" however we learned that a game will be killed off for even a reason of convenience for development...
CCP Shanghai is a place that should never be trusted by gamers.
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M1tch Rapp
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
179
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:19:00 -
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They damn sure need to get the next update out with new game mode and the PC changes. I don't think trading is enough to move the needle right now.
Stuff to Trade? Check out Jadek's Trading Tool HERE
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1077
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:06:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Forgive me for this but as of now dust's future is rather bleak in my perspective. I do hope I'm gravely mistaken.
But what are your thoughts?
The ONLY future there is for dust involves turning a server off and not on again. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7711
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:07:00 -
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the future is looking rather....
dusty
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
514
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:08:00 -
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DUST actually seems to be moving in the right direction. Ratatti is actually listening to us, and changing things that benefit us. It's crazy, I know. Things are actually moving along. We're starting to get things right, and hopefully better for a port to ps4. No you idiots, we're not going to pc. Last time that was a viable option, everybody quit the game! Dammit you're stupid!
Reloading, the silent killer.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
1734
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:09:00 -
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so bright that i gotta wear shades |
ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:15:00 -
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Ashes to ashes.......
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3615
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:18:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:Ashes to ashes....... Dust to... fck I can't remember...
Rust?
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9570
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:21:00 -
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I think the future of it is still undecided, but it is certainly more positive than what it was after FF 14, and it is looking brighter all the time.
Whether that gets past a critical point where momentum can carry on long term, that is yet to be decided (so far as we know from the information we have currently).
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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DDx77
The Exemplars
203
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:38:00 -
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It might depend on competitors such as Star Citizen which look like it will compete with EvE, Valkyrie, and Dust all in one package.
If a game like this starts having an effect on the EvE player base, I'd imagine you would see a greater effort to corner the market
They can't just throw Dust/legion on the PS4 or PC just for the sake of current players
It will end when more players migrate to other systems and there is no more money to be made
Just enjoy the ride while it lasts
May the Dark shine your way
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1694
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Posted - 2015.04.20 23:21:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:It will end when more players migrate to other systems and there is no more money to be made
Just enjoy the ride while it lasts
^
Just getting what (little) enjoyment I can out of it before September and the return of MGO (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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DEATH THE KlD
Seven Kin of Purgatory
159
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Posted - 2015.04.20 23:30:00 -
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If it gets ported then it's got a bright future.. I'd put all my sources into porting it honestly |
Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6163
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:29:00 -
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Squagga wrote:DUST actually seems to be moving in the right direction. Ratatti is actually listening to us, and changing things that benefit us. It's crazy, I know. Things are actually moving along. We're starting to get things right, and hopefully better for a port to ps4. No you idiots, we're not going to pc. Last time that was a viable option, everybody quit the game! Dammit you're stupid! I have to agree here.
The playerbase was decimated by last FanFest's announcement of Project Legion.
****, Onslaught died out in Dust and moved over to Destiny, and when that game turned out to be a hollow fascimile of what we all expected, the clan just died.
CCP's announcement of Project Legion quite literally led to the death of several clans that were formed around prior games and really got invested in Dust 514.
I would hope that Dust 514 becoming profitable on it's own and our continued dedication is enough to show CCP that we are more than worth the effort of migrating this game to PS4 and building it into what it should be.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7148
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:30:00 -
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
520
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:30:00 -
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It has always seemed to me that CCP is either lazy or just don't care about the player base, and make whatever they feel like making the game. I would begin to imagine that, if there was enough draw from star citizen, or any other game like it, they would put more effort into keeping their player base and trying to draw more new players. With all this being said. It does seem that Ratatti is actually putting in work and wanting to make us happy customers again.
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6163
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:36:00 -
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As to the question posed in the OP, I honestly don't know.
I WANT this game to have a bright future, but...I'm just not sure how to make it happen given what's already happened and how long the whole Project Legion fiasco has been left to fester.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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Stan Dan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
52
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:41:00 -
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They could always go for broke and try for a pc/ps4 cross-platform and drawn the old vets, new players and even some eve players to their player base. This way they could work on it having more interaction with eve and eve players could influence dust directly without having to get a console and ppl like me who cant afford a great pc can continue to play the game they love. |
Stan Dan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
52
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:43:00 -
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Its hard to post on here on a smartphone :x |
Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2820
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Posted - 2015.04.21 00:48:00 -
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What I think CCP should know is that if they do put more resources into DUST, if they do keep it alive, and reach a level where general discussion is at least 60% positive threads, that EVE will attract more customers (DUST players looking to drop orbitals and staying) and become more fun too.
The fact of the matter is, eventually someone might make a better spaceship game. Already, there exist better FPS' for people who play for the sake of a good FPS, instead of DUST's skill and diverse item system.
But where else can you find a console-FPS linked to a spaceship PC MMO? Does anyone else have the balls to try? They have something here, it could be something glorious. The lore, even down to respec tokens, I could think of ways to integrate into New Eden. To be honest, there isn't any concrete explanation for patch notes and items being removed and replaced anyway(hell, sov is getting a massive overhaul in EVE and all we can do is -magical lore wand- it into existence as if it had always been so).
I worry the reason CCP are hesitant to move further with DUST is partially because the link to New Eden is too tenuous. If that is the case, then I would argue not to get trapped by the universe you created in the first place. Stretch those boundaries a little.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:10:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:What I think CCP should know is that if they do put more resources into DUST, if they do keep it alive, and reach a level where general discussion is at least 60% positive threads, that EVE will attract more customers (DUST players looking to drop orbitals and staying) and become more fun too.
The fact of the matter is, eventually someone might make a better spaceship game. Already, there exist better FPS' for people who play for the sake of a good FPS, instead of DUST's skill and diverse item system.
But where else can you find a console-FPS linked to a spaceship PC MMO? Does anyone else have the balls to try? They have something here, it could be something glorious. The lore, even down to respec tokens, I could think of ways to integrate into New Eden. To be honest, there isn't any concrete explanation for patch notes and items being removed and replaced anyway(hell, sov is getting a massive overhaul in EVE and all we can do is -magical lore wand- it into existence as if it had always been so).
I worry the reason CCP are hesitant to move further with DUST is partially because the link to New Eden is too tenuous. If that is the case, then I would argue not to get trapped by the universe you created in the first place. Stretch those boundaries a little. Two words:
Star Citizen
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6163
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:What I think CCP should know is that if they do put more resources into DUST, if they do keep it alive, and reach a level where general discussion is at least 60% positive threads, that EVE will attract more customers (DUST players looking to drop orbitals and staying) and become more fun too.
The fact of the matter is, eventually someone might make a better spaceship game. Already, there exist better FPS' for people who play for the sake of a good FPS, instead of DUST's skill and diverse item system.
But where else can you find a console-FPS linked to a spaceship PC MMO? Does anyone else have the balls to try? They have something here, it could be something glorious. The lore, even down to respec tokens, I could think of ways to integrate into New Eden. To be honest, there isn't any concrete explanation for patch notes and items being removed and replaced anyway(hell, sov is getting a massive overhaul in EVE and all we can do is -magical lore wand- it into existence as if it had always been so).
I worry the reason CCP are hesitant to move further with DUST is partially because the link to New Eden is too tenuous. If that is the case, then I would argue not to get trapped by the universe you created in the first place. Stretch those boundaries a little. Two words: Star Citizen Not even close.
From the beginning they've stated a maximum instance limit of 100 ships, and it'll probably end up lower than that in order to ensure good performance.
Add to that that whatever Illfonic is doing for the shooter side of things will be focused primarily on boarding ships and we dont' even have any confirmation if it will involve planets at all at launch, and it becomes pretty clear Star Citizen is no threat to either EVE or Dust.
They are aimed at two different kinds of players. Just like Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen aims to strongly limit the ammount of influence players have over the way the world works, rather than allowing them to define the world almost entirely like EVE Online does. Star Citizen is basically "Sandbox-Lite", and it's attracted a lot of people that way.
The truth is that this game wouldn't even be on a level to have to compete with any other game if it in any way represented the kind of sandbox that EVE Online is. Instead, we have a 32-player lobby shooter with a bad memory leak and framerate problems.
Again, I pledged for Star Citizen, but let's try and keep things in perspective.
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R.I.P. Kesha
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Koldy Lyte Marven
DUST University Ivy League
61
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:20:00 -
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Honestlu, I don't think Dust has a bright future. If they port it to PC, PSt and maybe other gaming consoles such as XBox, it might boost dust's popularity.
( -í° -£-û -í°)
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
535
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:27:00 -
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The general direction has GREATLY improved.
If CCP can really lock down their development cycles and commit resources while keeping the path we are on now there is a great future.
If CCP goes back to treating the general process to something similar to Eve the game will fall to the triple A games in a hurry on whatever platform it goes too.
CCP has proven to have upper level management issues and it was only bringing Ratatti into the picture who was able to make a connection to the player base that put us on to a better path. I only hope that whenever more resources are given to the project this same type of player communication can be held on to.
To be totally honest I am still a bit confused on my opinions of the game's future. This is mostly because of what I have seen from CCP in Eve as well as seeing how they handled the first years of Dust. I can say that the confusion is only because of the last many months being very good in terms of offsetting all of the previous negative opinions. |
Kayla Michael
Tactical Logistics and Cargo
106
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:28:00 -
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Dishearteningly I believe DUST will began to wither away. Like most stuff in life - "All good things must come to it's end." DUST is probably the only reason why I would even get back onto my PlayStation 3. Especially after PlayStation Home's fall...
Yeah, the game isn't perfect, but it's concept is vastly unique compared to some other Science Fiction games.
I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. ~
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:28:00 -
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http://dust514.com/news/blog/2015/04/warlords-1.1-overview-patch-notes/
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1464
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://dust514.com/news/blog/2015/04/warlords-1.1-overview-patch-notes/
Oh. Dear. God.
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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Stan Dan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
52
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:40:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://dust514.com/news/blog/2015/04/warlords-1.1-overview-patch-notes/ Oh. Dear. God.
Why? Looks ok to me. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
205
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:43:00 -
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If CCP as a company takes the game seriously, it might, but that means they would have to invest a lot more money in the game which they probably won't do. It seems like they are just seeing how far this will go before pulling the plug. We all know that Dust could be better if its on a next-gen console, so if CCP really wanted to they would be investing in redesigning the or porting the game on a much stronger platform, but it seems like they aren't( I have my own theories to why they might not). So the game may not have a future since the number of players just will keep dwindling, especially after all the big releases coming out this year. Not likely for many players to stick around for long. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9468
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:44:00 -
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If Dust can migrate off of the PS3 and onto the PC (barring that, PS4) within a year, yes.
If not, no. It will probably disappear into nothingness as more and more players leave.
@Ripley_Riley
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance
92
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:45:00 -
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*sips lemonade*
Yes I do have a port for pc/ps4 attract more players
more players=problems but new solutions and larger fanbase transfer over to ps4 then after beta last include lots of content and a monthly corp tournament and large scall pc battle including eve caps to make us important also
NERF THE RE'S Gallente logi ftw
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6164
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:48:00 -
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bathtubist wrote:*sips lemonade*
Yes I do have a port for pc/ps4 attract more players
more players=problems but new solutions and larger fanbase transfer over to ps4 then after beta last include lots of content and a monthly corp tournament and large scall pc battle including eve caps to make us important also The thing I loved best about the concept of Dust 514 was that it would encourage players of Dust and EVE to work together to their mutual benefit.
The game was like a giant EAT A **** to this whole stupid PC vs Console thing.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9582
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:49:00 -
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Stan Dan wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://dust514.com/news/blog/2015/04/warlords-1.1-overview-patch-notes/ Oh. Dear. God. Why? Looks ok to me. Lol.
They made SKIN an acronym.
You would.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
201
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:52:00 -
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Long live Dust 514!
Amarr Victor
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Kayla Michael
Tactical Logistics and Cargo
107
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:53:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:Long live Dust 514!
I second that!
I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. ~
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
334
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Posted - 2015.04.21 02:04:00 -
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Welp after reading all that comments, it seems dust is still loved by the majority. It's kinda cute. Guess it's up to the devs to make do of what they have. God's peed you glorious bastards
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3311
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Posted - 2015.04.21 02:11:00 -
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Behold, the blue crater!
As of April 9, 2015, we have about 330 days of DUST 514 left. Enjoy them!
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6180
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Posted - 2015.04.21 03:22:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Welp after reading all that comments, it seems dust is still loved by the majority. It's kinda cute. Guess it's up to the devs to make do of what they have. God's peed you glorious bastards One can only hope they make the right choices from now on.
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R.I.P. Kesha
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
982
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Posted - 2015.04.21 03:39:00 -
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Let's just enjoy the journey for now. Rat. is making a very brave last stand on trying to please the last of us while proving to CCP there is still money to be made... Where is that money going anyways? Dust will die in a year or so, but will continue to live if CCP decides to greenlight Legion or create a port.
PIE
Lasers4life
"See these marks... Don't overheat your gun"
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DUST Fiend
16461
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Posted - 2015.04.21 04:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Not even close.
From the beginning they've stated a maximum instance limit of 100 ships, and it'll probably end up lower than that in order to ensure good performance.
Add to that that whatever Illfonic is doing for the shooter side of things will be focused primarily on boarding ships and we dont' even have any confirmation if it will involve planets at all at launch, and it becomes pretty clear Star Citizen is no threat to either EVE or Dust.
They are aimed at two different kinds of players. Just like Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen aims to strongly limit the ammount of influence players have over the way the world works, rather than allowing them to define the world almost entirely like EVE Online does. Star Citizen is basically "Sandbox-Lite", and it's attracted a lot of people that way.
The truth is that this game wouldn't even be on a level to have to compete with any other game if it in any way represented the kind of sandbox that EVE Online is. Instead, we have a 32-player lobby shooter with a bad memory leak and framerate problems.
Again, I pledged for Star Citizen, but let's try and keep things in perspective. Lol, I'm only in it for the immersion. And that is something that EVE simply will never offer me, because I can't just imagine it anymore. That game has always made me feel so disconnected. I'm getting an Oculus rift, a HOTAS setup, the works for SC. It's a game that lets me imagine. It's all about obnoxious levels of detail and technical innovation. I don't care if it takes 5 years for it to launch even half of what they've promised. The modules will be released as they're finished, so there will be plenty of SC to be had in the meantime. And I severely doubt they'll be capping out on the ship count as time goes on, considering one of the huge draws is being able to design your own ships and have them built in game and sold, if they're up to par. The FPS side of things looks intensely tactical, and very slow paced. Since there's no respawn mechanic in SC, it's going to be a lot more stressful and frustrating and that's something I love in games :D
You're definitely right, it's for two separate audiences for sure. At no point did I even intend to imply that it would threaten EVE or DUST, simply that it will be it's own juggernaut that needn't worry about them either. I want the experience of living in space, in first person, with incredible obnoxious attention to detail. And SC offers me that, though im still pretty bad at dogfighting lmao. Getting my flight stick soon :D
I'm more concerned with the technical limitations, which will ensure that DUST won't be able to lift off with the rest. As a F2P game it's always going to have clients, and lets face it, y'all are some damn loyal nerds and drop the benjamins (hell, I've spent like $120 on this, and I bash the game all the time.) I just found it kind of silly to act like DUST / EVE is the only game out there that's trying to do something awesome and unique.
Squadron 42 is gonna be boss as hell.
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11531
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Posted - 2015.04.21 05:52:00 -
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I will only say it has a bright future ahead of it on the condition it gets ported over to the PS4.
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https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
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Void Echo
Helix Order
2770
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:00:00 -
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If ccp decides to terminate console operations and send it to pc only, theyl never be welcomed back into the console market, even if they reopen dust again it will fail because everyone will know they are just too terrible at consoles.
Closed Beta Vet.
Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
1444
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:42:00 -
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Dust could have been the best MMOFPS ever. But CCP wasted every opportunity to make Dust great.
I still want the game they promised us for years. It's a damn shame we will never get it.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels Learning Alliance
146
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:33:00 -
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Dust...... All is Dust
The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
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Russel Mendoza
7th air cav
51
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:28:00 -
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HAIL CCP! HAIL EVE! HAIL DUST! SIEG HAIL!!!
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
Vehicle request accepted.
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