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Leaping Loutis
Sivillian Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:15:00 -
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hello fellow poilets im here to discuse about the dropship probably the most loved yet hated pice of dust hard were. it makes me sad that dropships are now beying used like disposible paper air planes just how the lav is beying used today to ram into thing cuse thats all is good at now.
im hopping that they could help this situation. i know flying itself can be over powerd but wen you join matches were 3 squads or more carry proto swarms witch are now impossible to out run no matter how fast you fly or un able to offer real helpfull sapourt. in this regaurd dropships can only servive at the most 3 shots before going down and im shur piolets dint spend months and years of skill grinding just to get something that is even weaker and twice as usless as their mallitia suits.
i personaly miss the days were dropships even tho expensive were worth every penny and wen shot out of the sky was so expesive you coudent spam it hence its massive power. when my ads had some were to run to for repairs in the sky such as a fellow logi ship and when blasters wernt a pice of useless crap you could do dog fights with and or fly low and risk beying pelted to death to shoot people but have enough resistance to kill three people. when av was balanced were forges take out sheld drop ships easy but not armour and swarms to armour but not sheilds. things were truly going some were. shur i had lee way on the nerfing beying bad ass piolet i felt yeh i could drop a cupple damedge but then it kept going and going till the drop ships not only coudent carry their team mates with out having to make 2 rounds and not having enough slots to put whats needed to servive. a strife of sacricing power for uslessness i say if their going to be this usless they shoudent be even used at all especialy thanks to jumping no longer needed to get to high places. so please help to atleast help enough to make them worth the cash their worth or make them so cheap to the point were lavs cost the same cuse thats what their really worth right now.
dust veteran piolet pushed to the edge with nerfing and countless removals of crucial drop ship parts.
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DDx77
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:57:00 -
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Let me ask you a question evil dropsuit pilot
If you got the buffs that you want and they made your armor reasonably tough
Would you lose your mind if swarm launchers were then able to be equipped in the sidearm slot?
I'm not talking about adjusting any CPU or PG or a variant (although that might would work as well)
This way you're not paper thin and we won't be easy fodder for infantry
I think this is a fair compromise
May the Dark shine your way
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3251
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:28:00 -
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Dropships are not supposed to be able to brick tank, their strength lies in speed tanking. You should never attack head on, but always from the side or at a distance with a way to escape. You're not some tanky, flying death machine; your job is to take out nests of links and equipment, force the enemy to use AV (weakening their anti-infantry ability), and generally be an annoyance (which may include killing people).
Used for this purpose, there is very little wrong with the ADS. I personally have NEVER been shot down, only losing ADSs through my own piloting mistakes or stupid crap (like getting rammed or running into a null cannon missile).
The ONLY real changes I'd make are: 1) Some way to avoid swarms through piloting skill, similar to orbiting forges (there was a good thread about changing swarm turning); chaff seems lacking in the 'skill' aspect, 2) An easier way to identify AV players as a pilot (I say show a special chevron for all locking/charging AV within 100m for 5-7s, to the pilot only).
EDIT: I should also mention that I've been an ADS pilot since 1.3
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DJINN Jecture
MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH
337
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:40:00 -
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lol whut?
so something like des?
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DJINN Jecture
MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH
337
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:42:00 -
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DJINN Jecture wrote:lol whut? so something like des? Just so you are aware, this is a totally legitimate tactic for troop transport, and in FW fights you get bonus points for dropping blueberrys more accurately on top of redberries and roadkilling the entire lot of them.
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DJINN Jecture
MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH
337
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:49:00 -
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Leaping Loutis wrote:hello fellow poilets im here to discuse about the dropship probably the most loved yet hated pice of dust hard were. it makes me sad that dropships are now beying used like disposible paper air planes just how the lav is beying used today to ram into thing cuse thats all is good at now. im hopping that they could help this situation. i know flying itself can be over powerd but wen you join matches were 3 squads or more carry proto swarms witch are now impossible to out run no matter how fast you fly or un able to offer real helpfull sapourt. in this regaurd dropships can only servive at the most 3 shots before going down and im shur piolets dint spend months and years of skill grinding just to get something that is even weaker and twice as usless as their mallitia suits. i personaly miss the days were dropships even tho expensive were worth every penny and wen shot out of the sky was so expesive you coudent spam it hence its massive power. when my ads had some were to run to for repairs in the sky such as a fellow logi ship and when blasters wernt a pice of useless crap you could do dog fights with and or fly low and risk beying pelted to death to shoot people but have enough resistance to kill three people. when av was balanced were forges take out sheld drop ships easy but not armour and swarms to armour but not sheilds. things were truly going some were. shur i had lee way on the nerfing beying bad ass piolet i felt yeh i could drop a cupple damedge but then it kept going and going till the drop ships not only coudent carry their team mates with out having to make 2 rounds and not having enough slots to put whats needed to servive. a strife of sacricing power for uslessness i say if their going to be this usless they shoudent be even used at all especialy thanks to jumping no longer needed to get to high places. so please help to atleast help enough to make them worth the cash their worth or make them so cheap to the point were lavs cost the same cuse thats what their really worth right now. I like paper airplanes and resent that you dislike them furthermore I resent how you murder the english language but will choose to believe it is your third language and you are actually a rather adept master of all languages but english and chose rather to not consult either a dictionary or thesaurus before subjecting our eyes to the torture that this is when asking for something intelligent and specific like say a 10% buff to shield resistance on dropships or a 5% armor resistance on dropships based on x, y or z reasons. So why this?
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
528
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Posted - 2015.04.18 05:04:00 -
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Salutations, Leaping. I admit, your post does bring back some memories for me too. I am one of those players who respected the very-steep costs that Dust used to hammer us with, and I endorsed the brutal way the game punished us for any poor judgement and subsequent vehicle-loss we experienced in the match.
It usually made for VERY nervous, high-suspense matches: You decide to call in a Dropship delivery, and have to climb into the DS and escape right away because an anonymous Railgun was pounding your 300,000 ISK vehicle before delivery was even completed. OR, you got nervous when an enemy proto-HAV started rolling up on your position, when suddenly one of your buddies is able to destroy it---and you know that the proto-HAV won't be returning to this match because it was SO danged expensive that the owner must be balling in tears right now.
Patience, though. Once Dropships have returned to the game in their new form (like HAV recently have), I suspect the "cost" factor will come back to DS use. I agree with you, these vehicles do need to be less-frequently delivered in the matches, and when delivered, should be used with greater fear and greater demand for skilled retention of the vehicle. Your blue buddies will NEVER gain respect or value for you as their supporter, when all you're doing is dashing around like fightercraft, taking pot-shots with a solo nose gun, and doing solo-taxi and solo-kamakazie for our self interests.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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Leaping Loutis
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.10 04:42:00 -
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i love it when people correct me on my grammer because it is so funny watching people trying to make them selves feel better that their wasting their intellect on a site that is made for socializing and disguising problems. also no one has time to look up a dictionary during emotional distress and 2. i do not care for the English language for 3 major reasons. 1. it wasent my first language it was my third 2. the brain dose not prosses words as a colection on individual letters put into a sequence but as a whole word put into spacific places in the sentance to make a meaning so i can type like this and still youl be able to read EX: ( i am giong to the store to by mlk to sdisfy my thrst.) So deal with it. this isint english class nor is it a means of learning to speak and spell correctly that is what spell check is for witch minority of the people use.
(also my time is valuble and is also why it took so long to write back. i got places to be)
To fellow readers if you have things to add feel free to do so because i don't tend to read things out of context or topic to thees post unless interesting. if you see this () skip unless intresting because it is ither of topic or liberating.
also for those wondering (but probably not who cares oviosly my post so i get to type what i want) ill be quiting dust since i canot figure out how to get ahold of the developers to the game since i have sheld out thousands of dollers to increese my internet power to the point were i not just resorted to top notch motems and providers but fiber optic cablle lan lines for faster dilivery and even modded my ps3 to have a state of the art GV-N770OC-2GD graphics card (fn also super expensive and extensive moding) (srry sony but screwing with your stuff is what i do best *not a hacker just a engeneering wize that dosent need to know parts to put them together the right way* and aso fk you sony don't become a microsoft or a nintendo) nw my call of duty is lag free and shitstupenduslly nintendo 64 quality comperd to my skyrim and dust 514 still not only lags but the quality is **** (again comperd to skyrim and ps3 shadow of the calasus) and id like to say this . im quiting dust idc if it matters for you but as a person shelling out big bucks that should be going to you insted of other companies just to make your glorified battler field/ discount halo work is a damn shame. (but then again you made eve a butiful graphic let down when you figur out its just a 3d point and click BOOOOOOO NOT WORTH THE MONEY BUT STILL WOULD PAY JUST BECAUSE OF THE ART (so cootose to the artist but a big MIDDLE FINGERS TO THE GAME PROGRAMERS ON THE BATTLE MICANICS siriusly talk to ace online makers for that itle be cool and worth more. again im quiting dust because of the fact that not only is it only stoping and made a mocory and removed my favriot parts of the game but the fact that i cant even play it at all do to the fact i cant take two steps with out moving 5 back and have to keep restoring and fixing my ps3 all beacuse of some loading error or strate up booting of the game because scotty mest up or the loading circle SUCKT SO MUCH ASS OR STRAIGHT UP RANDOMLY BLOWING MY DROP SHIP UP FOR NO GOD DAMN REASSON SAYING I COMITED SUICIDE WHEN I WAS CLEARLY FLYING 400M OF THE GROUND AND NO WERE NEER READ LINE OF ENEMIES OR CLIFS. IF I WASENT QUITING I WOULD ASK FOR A FULL REFUND ON SUSAHARU SANTERU1 FOR THE 50 MILLION ISK FOR THE TRUBLE OF GETTING MY ASS KICKT ON THE GROUND FOR MONTHS TRYING TO GET THE MONEY BACK FOR THE DROPSHIPS THAT MAGICLY SELF DISTRUCT OR DIE FROM A STUPID GAME KICK DO TO YOUR SHOTTY SPEED PROGRAMING, AND DONT SAY THE GAME IS FREE BECAUSE THEIR IS A OVIUSE PAY TO WIN **** GOING ON HERE. so as derectly and nicely as i can say it A BIG **** YOU TO DUST AND YOUR HARD TO REACH DEVELOPERS WHO DON'T DO **** IN THE PROSSES OR HAVE THE BALLS TO ATLEAST SAY **** YOU IM BUSY.
dust veteran piolet pushed to the edge with nerfing and countless removals of crucial drop ship parts.
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Kaeru Nayiri
Ready to Play
1111
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Posted - 2015.05.10 07:06:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Dropships are not supposed to be able to brick tank, their strength lies in speed tanking. You should never attack head on, but always from the side or at a distance with a way to escape. You're not some tanky, flying death machine; your job is to take out nests of links and equipment, force the enemy to use AV (weakening their anti-infantry ability), and generally be an annoyance (which may include killing people).
Used for this purpose, there is very little wrong with the ADS. I personally have NEVER been shot down, only losing ADSs through my own piloting mistakes or stupid crap (like getting rammed or running into a null cannon missile).
The ONLY real changes I'd make are: 1) Some way to avoid swarms through piloting skill, similar to orbiting forges (there was a good thread about changing swarm turning); chaff seems lacking in the 'skill' aspect, 2) An easier way to identify AV players as a pilot (I say show a special chevron for all locking/charging AV within 100m for 5-7s, to the pilot only).
EDIT: I should also mention that I've been an ADS pilot since 1.3
Vulpes nailed it 100%. Agree with every word. +1
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels Learning Alliance
196
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Posted - 2015.05.10 11:23:00 -
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Leaping Loutis wrote:hello fellow poilets im here to discuse about the dropship probably the most loved yet hated pice of dust hard were. it makes me sad that dropships are now beying used like disposible paper air planes just how the lav is beying used today to ram into thing cuse thats all is good at now. im hopping that they could help this situation. i know flying itself can be over powerd but wen you join matches were 3 squads or more carry proto swarms witch are now impossible to out run no matter how fast you fly or un able to offer real helpfull sapourt. in this regaurd dropships can only servive at the most 3 shots before going down and im shur piolets dint spend months and years of skill grinding just to get something that is even weaker and twice as usless as their mallitia suits. i personaly miss the days were dropships even tho expensive were worth every penny and wen shot out of the sky was so expesive you coudent spam it hence its massive power. when my ads had some were to run to for repairs in the sky such as a fellow logi ship and when blasters wernt a pice of useless crap you could do dog fights with and or fly low and risk beying pelted to death to shoot people but have enough resistance to kill three people. when av was balanced were forges take out sheld drop ships easy but not armour and swarms to armour but not sheilds. things were truly going some were. shur i had lee way on the nerfing beying bad ass piolet i felt yeh i could drop a cupple damedge but then it kept going and going till the drop ships not only coudent carry their team mates with out having to make 2 rounds and not having enough slots to put whats needed to servive. a strife of sacricing power for uslessness i say if their going to be this usless they shoudent be even used at all especialy thanks to jumping no longer needed to get to high places. so please help to atleast help enough to make them worth the cash their worth or make them so cheap to the point were lavs cost the same cuse thats what their really worth right now.
your playstation teaches you how to spell, you didn't learn, your points are invalid
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