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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
22
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:57:00 -
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So I have used Scouts for a while. I really enjoy them for speed and mobility as well as having a neat little niche. However, I made a new derp around fit with my Assault GK.0 that had a CRG-3. My very first game was 19-4 (My lifetime K/D is .54 because being a dedicated logi/scan scout take its toll). My GK.0 Assault was better than my scout in almost every respect (except Scan Profile)
Speed: 8.1~ Sprint Speed ||| 8.7~ Sprint Speed HP: 200~ Shield, 300~ Armor ||| 321 Shield, 492 Armor Reps: 10~ Armor per second ||| 14~ Armor per second
My Assault could tank damage, he could afford to miss a shot and live, he could out perform my scout in every way. I was SHOCKED. I had seen Minmatar Assaults do this sort of thing, but no Gallente, however I was amazed at how well it worked. If you don't rely on your cloak as a scout, I HIGHLY advise you to try shotgun with an Assault suit.
My Fitting
Assault GK.0 CRG-3 Shotgun TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol M1 Locus Grenade X-3 Quantum Nanohive Complex Kincat x2 Complex Cardiac Regulator Complex Armor Plate Complex Armor Repairer Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender x2
My PG is only at lvl 4, but if you have lvl 5, you can use an Enhanced Extender instead of Basic
I just thought I'd share this for anyone who wants to skill into Scouts. If you want a Cloak, use a Scout. If you wanna Shotgun bitches like it's nothing, use an Assault.
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
377
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:04:00 -
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if anything you can drop the quantum hive to a basic hive and maybe free up some fitings for that avd extender, because basic is useless.
Also, consider dropping that plate to a ferroscale. slows you down less and gives you more PG / CPU to play with. |
SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
22
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:05:00 -
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I like the extra armor and ammo over extra shield.
I'm not changing this fit. It meets all my needs
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9423
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:09:00 -
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Scouts have been saying this for awhile.
Just watch for the people that still think Scouts are OP Assault Lights. They are still out there for some reason.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
24
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:10:00 -
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I know. Scouts are not OP in the slightest, ESPECIALLY when Assaults can make better Scouts than Scouts.
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
27
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:15:00 -
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Will try this tonight sounds promising.
Scouts and Swarms
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7070
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:28:00 -
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You have the scout role all wrong. They're about EWAR. They damp, get behind you and blap. |
Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
268
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:32:00 -
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Assault gk.0 is a better scout than a Scout? What's its Profile and Precision?
Purifier. First Class.
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
26
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:35:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Assault gk.0 is a better scout than a Scout? What's its Profile and Precision?
I said that it's scan profile was worse already, so.......
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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VAHZZ
1361
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:36:00 -
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An armor plate on a scout, ridiculous.
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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Otrera Goddess
Nos Nothi
250
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:42:00 -
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My gal assault shotgun fit would destroy that fit |
SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
26
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:48:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:My gal assault shotgun fit would destroy that fit
Lol, I'm not a PvP guy. It's Logi, Logi, Logi, Occasional AV, Logi, Logi, Assault, Logi, Logi. I think you see a pattern xD
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
268
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:07:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:My gal assault shotgun fit would destroy that fit
Your Shotgun Assault is a pain if you get the drop.
Purifier. First Class.
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Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
268
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:09:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Assault gk.0 is a better scout than a Scout? What's its Profile and Precision? I said that it's scan profile was worse already, so.......
So then the Scout is better for being a Scout and doing Scout stuff.
Congrats on making a speedy Shotgun Assault, although the Plate is hampering your speed.
Purifier. First Class.
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
26
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:09:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:My gal assault shotgun fit would destroy that fit Your Shotgun Assault is a pain if you get the drop.
You bet it is!!! I just like that a Scrambler can't 2 shot me anymore and those pesky Bolt Pistols aren't such a pain xD
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
608
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:19:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:So I have used Scouts for a while. I really enjoy them for speed and mobility as well as having a neat little niche. However, I made a new derp around fit with my Assault GK.0 that had a CRG-3. My very first game was 19-4 (My lifetime K/D is .54 because being a dedicated logi/scan scout take its toll). My GK.0 Assault was better than my scout in almost every respect (except Scan Profile)
Speed: 8.1~ Sprint Speed ||| 8.7~ Sprint Speed HP: 200~ Shield, 300~ Armor ||| 321 Shield, 492 Armor Reps: 10~ Armor per second ||| 14~ Armor per second
My Assault could tank damage, he could afford to miss a shot and live, he could out perform my scout in every way. I was SHOCKED. I had seen Minmatar Assaults do this sort of thing, but no Gallente, however I was amazed at how well it worked. If you don't rely on your cloak as a scout, I HIGHLY advise you to try shotgun with an Assault suit.
My Fitting
Assault GK.0 CRG-3 Shotgun TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol M1 Locus Grenade X-3 Quantum Nanohive Complex Kincat x2 Complex Cardiac Regulator Complex Armor Plate Complex Armor Repairer Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender x2
My PG is only at lvl 4, but if you have lvl 5, you can use an Enhanced Extender instead of Basic
I just thought I'd share this for anyone who wants to skill into Scouts. If you want a Cloak, use a Scout. If you wanna Shotgun bitches like it's nothing, use an Assault.
Enjoy getting completely shut down the second anyone equips a scanner.
I use mk.0 assault: 2 kincats 1 dampener 1 regulator 3 adv. shield extenders 1 precision enhancer
shotgun/bolt pistol, core locus gren, x-3 nanohive
Works great until people start using scanners, then you have to use the scout if you want to keep being effective. And thats why shotgun assaults still suck and scouts still have a place. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
6037
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:21:00 -
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So you're saying that assaults are better at doing assault things than scouts are? Amazing.
Some details can be ignored
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
26
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:22:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:So I have used Scouts for a while. I really enjoy them for speed and mobility as well as having a neat little niche. However, I made a new derp around fit with my Assault GK.0 that had a CRG-3. My very first game was 19-4 (My lifetime K/D is .54 because being a dedicated logi/scan scout take its toll). My GK.0 Assault was better than my scout in almost every respect (except Scan Profile)
Speed: 8.1~ Sprint Speed ||| 8.7~ Sprint Speed HP: 200~ Shield, 300~ Armor ||| 321 Shield, 492 Armor Reps: 10~ Armor per second ||| 14~ Armor per second
My Assault could tank damage, he could afford to miss a shot and live, he could out perform my scout in every way. I was SHOCKED. I had seen Minmatar Assaults do this sort of thing, but no Gallente, however I was amazed at how well it worked. If you don't rely on your cloak as a scout, I HIGHLY advise you to try shotgun with an Assault suit.
My Fitting
Assault GK.0 CRG-3 Shotgun TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol M1 Locus Grenade X-3 Quantum Nanohive Complex Kincat x2 Complex Cardiac Regulator Complex Armor Plate Complex Armor Repairer Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender x2
My PG is only at lvl 4, but if you have lvl 5, you can use an Enhanced Extender instead of Basic
I just thought I'd share this for anyone who wants to skill into Scouts. If you want a Cloak, use a Scout. If you wanna Shotgun bitches like it's nothing, use an Assault.
Enjoy getting completely shut down the second anyone equips a scanner. I use mk.0 assault: 2 kincats 1 dampener 1 regulator 3 adv. shield extenders 1 precision enhancer shotgun/bolt pistol, core locus gren, x-3 nanohive Works great until people start using scanners, then you have to use the scout if you want to keep being effective. And thats why shotgun assaults still suck and scouts still have a place. Please tell, how often do you see red berries running scanners? 'Cause I see it once every 3 matches or so and I am predominantly a Logi. If they have scans, I Logi, if not, I run SG Gassault or Logi anyways
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
26
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:24:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:So you're saying that assaults are better at doing assault things than scouts are? Amazing. I'm saying Assaults are better than Scouts at Scout things (depending on how you run a Scout). If you're a slayer, the Shotgun Assault is for you, 'cause you can tank damage and live a lot longer if you're seen or make an error that would be fatal to a Scout. If you're a Scan Scout, this doesn't apply
Logi WP record
7777 Warpoints
Logi fit ~
Six Kin Triage Reps,
Wiyrkomi Needle,
MK.0 Logi
Who needs anything else?
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4395
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:04:00 -
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I think you are the only one who use a complex armor plate, for the rest, i like it.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
42
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:05:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I think you are the only one who use a complex armor plate, for the rest, i like it.
I generally would use a Ferro Plate but when there's two Complex Kincats in my fit, it's still pretty fast and I love that extra 60 HP.
Logi WP record ~ 7777 WarPoints
Six Kin Triage Reps, Wiyrkomi Needle, MK.0 Logi
The rest of the fit is irrelevant xD
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
6047
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:21:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:So you're saying that assaults are better at doing assault things than scouts are? Amazing. I'm saying Assaults are better than Scouts at Scout things (depending on how you run a Scout). If you're a slayer, the Shotgun Assault is for you, 'cause you can tank damage and live a lot longer if you're seen or make an error that would be fatal to a Scout. If you're a Scan Scout, this doesn't apply But scouts aren't "Slayers" (idiotic term)- Assaults and Commandos are.
Some details can be ignored
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
611
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:33:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:So I have used Scouts for a while. I really enjoy them for speed and mobility as well as having a neat little niche. However, I made a new derp around fit with my Assault GK.0 that had a CRG-3. My very first game was 19-4 (My lifetime K/D is .54 because being a dedicated logi/scan scout take its toll). My GK.0 Assault was better than my scout in almost every respect (except Scan Profile)
Speed: 8.1~ Sprint Speed ||| 8.7~ Sprint Speed HP: 200~ Shield, 300~ Armor ||| 321 Shield, 492 Armor Reps: 10~ Armor per second ||| 14~ Armor per second
My Assault could tank damage, he could afford to miss a shot and live, he could out perform my scout in every way. I was SHOCKED. I had seen Minmatar Assaults do this sort of thing, but no Gallente, however I was amazed at how well it worked. If you don't rely on your cloak as a scout, I HIGHLY advise you to try shotgun with an Assault suit.
My Fitting
Assault GK.0 CRG-3 Shotgun TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol M1 Locus Grenade X-3 Quantum Nanohive Complex Kincat x2 Complex Cardiac Regulator Complex Armor Plate Complex Armor Repairer Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender x2
My PG is only at lvl 4, but if you have lvl 5, you can use an Enhanced Extender instead of Basic
I just thought I'd share this for anyone who wants to skill into Scouts. If you want a Cloak, use a Scout. If you wanna Shotgun bitches like it's nothing, use an Assault.
Enjoy getting completely shut down the second anyone equips a scanner. I use mk.0 assault: 2 kincats 1 dampener 1 regulator 3 adv. shield extenders 1 precision enhancer shotgun/bolt pistol, core locus gren, x-3 nanohive Works great until people start using scanners, then you have to use the scout if you want to keep being effective. And thats why shotgun assaults still suck and scouts still have a place. Please tell, how often do you see red berries running scanners? 'Cause I see it once every 3 matches or so and I am predominantly a Logi. If they have scans, I Logi, if not, I run SG Gassault or Logi anyways
I see it quite a bit, I dunno if you're just stuck in the scrub mu bracket or something, but probably half my games have some donkey on the other team who would rather be a scanning ballerina than a dust merc.
Edit: and more importantly, EVERY PC EVER will have people running top tier scans. |
Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
61
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:50:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:So I have used Scouts for a while. I really enjoy them for speed and mobility as well as having a neat little niche. However, I made a new derp around fit with my Assault GK.0 that had a CRG-3. My very first game was 19-4 (My lifetime K/D is .54 because being a dedicated logi/scan scout take its toll). My GK.0 Assault was better than my scout in almost every respect (except Scan Profile)
Speed: 8.1~ Sprint Speed ||| 8.7~ Sprint Speed HP: 200~ Shield, 300~ Armor ||| 321 Shield, 492 Armor Reps: 10~ Armor per second ||| 14~ Armor per second
My Assault could tank damage, he could afford to miss a shot and live, he could out perform my scout in every way. I was SHOCKED. I had seen Minmatar Assaults do this sort of thing, but no Gallente, however I was amazed at how well it worked. If you don't rely on your cloak as a scout, I HIGHLY advise you to try shotgun with an Assault suit.
My Fitting
Assault GK.0 CRG-3 Shotgun TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol M1 Locus Grenade X-3 Quantum Nanohive Complex Kincat x2 Complex Cardiac Regulator Complex Armor Plate Complex Armor Repairer Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender x2
My PG is only at lvl 4, but if you have lvl 5, you can use an Enhanced Extender instead of Basic
I just thought I'd share this for anyone who wants to skill into Scouts. If you want a Cloak, use a Scout. If you wanna Shotgun bitches like it's nothing, use an Assault.
I agree with your assessment. We ran into a pub match with you and your corp buddies pro to stomping a team of 6. 15 vs 6, if I recall. Then again, any suit can perform well with those odds.
CEO / Art.of.Death
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
44
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:45:00 -
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I never run this in PC. This is a Pub only match. I use my GK.0 Scout in PC
And Pepe, I honestly play any game I go into, even if it's a 16 vs 7 and we have the 7 players. I run APEX or 'Dren' stuff. I'll run Proto if I want to run Proto, but I fail to see your point. I don't go and run Proto if I see that we have more players. I go and run Proto when I think 'Screw it, let's try this new Proto fit I made' or 'Hey, if we really need that point, I'll run overwatch with a Rail Rifle'. I'm not the ******* who runs Proto only when we're up a few men on the other team. Plus, if there is anyone who can take me running Proto and live, it's Art.Of.Death. For fucks sake, between you and Maluble, I can't win a fight to save my life. I'm a Logi, not a slayer. I run Proto in Pubs to stand a chance, not to stomp. I've got some pretty mediocre gun-game, so to compete, I run Proto... God forbid...
Logi WP record ~ 7777 WarPoints
Six Kin Triage Reps, Wiyrkomi Needle, MK.0 Logi
The rest of the fit is irrelevant xD
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
329
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:51:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:I like the extra armor and ammo over extra shield.
I'm not changing this fit. It meets all my needs For how little time you spend in a hive, you'll have wasted the x-3's
Unless you want to net a few more +10's
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
44
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:58:00 -
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I run them to get my M-I's back and to get some points off of heavies. Now that you can carry six hives, I almost never run out adn if I do, I find a depot
Logi WP record ~ 7777 WarPoints
Six Kin Triage Reps, Wiyrkomi Needle, MK.0 Logi
The rest of the fit is irrelevant xD
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
531
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Posted - 2015.04.16 22:25:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Scouts have been saying this for awhile.
Just watch for the people that still think Scouts are OP Assault Lights. They are still out there for some reason. Still can't beat 2 second hacks amirite
STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1616
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Posted - 2015.04.16 23:03:00 -
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I run a SG fit on an Assault.
I have a Min and Gal proto Assault.
I put the SG on the Min because the speed and stamina regen trumps the dispersion bonus.
Without all the boring module details:
Minmatar Assault mk.0 with Duvolle SG, proto SMG, proto RE, 700 eHP, sprint 9.73, 1 complex myo for the hops, and profile 24db.
Fast, durable, very deadly, stealthy, and mobile.
Use in city maps, hardly ever scanned.
One of my favorite fits.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
614
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:16:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I run a SG fit on an Assault.
I have a Min and Gal proto Assault.
I put the SG on the Min because the speed and stamina regen trumps the dispersion bonus.
Without all the boring module details:
Minmatar Assault mk.0 with Duvolle SG, proto SMG, proto RE, 700 eHP, sprint 9.73, 1 complex myo for the hops, and profile 24db.
Fast, durable, very deadly, stealthy, and mobile.
Use in city maps, hardly ever scanned.
One of my favorite fits.
Should try it with bolt pistol or breach scrambler, they make really good compliments to the shotgun |
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
787
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Posted - 2015.04.17 06:03:00 -
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SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:So you're saying that assaults are better at doing assault things than scouts are? Amazing. I'm saying Assaults are better than Scouts at Scout things (depending on how you run a Scout). If you're a slayer, the Shotgun Assault is for you, 'cause you can tank damage and live a lot longer if you're seen or make an error that would be fatal to a Scout. If you're a Scan Scout, this doesn't apply
No you aren't saying Assaults are better at scouting than scouts. You are saying Scouts are at the very least not OP (and heavily implying UP) hoping for a buff.
Fail argument.
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