DUST Search - 'Tankacide' for Dropsuits

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

For me, I would have the Starter fits still be what they are now. It could be a good tool for the hypothetical new players (HNP). "Cool, I have these suits! I can kill people." "Wait, why does this suit have so many more slots? Alright, I guess I will build this suit just like that one."

For Militia suits, I am little torn. On one hand, it sucks for the HNP to have the ONLY suit they can use being so so much weaker than even the Basic Suit. A Militia Medium Caldari Frame would have 2/1/1 while a Basic Medium Caldari Frame would have 4/3/1. That doesn't amount to too much extra HP, like 100 with Basic modules, but it is still a concern. The concern is that the new players is making a choice in race before knowing what the hell each race does, but that is of course off topic.

I would suggest that Basic and Advanced suits get what is underlined in the proposal while Militia and Starter suits do not. It provides a LOT of power very early. For less than 60k SP, they can get a suit that is far more threatening than what is currently possible. It gives them a big juicy carrot to make themselves a superior suit.

Frames would probably need a nerf in the CPU/PG department, believe it or not. The Basic Medium Frame is 195/37 while the Basic Caldari Assault has 178/27. Either the Frame needs a reduction or the Basic Assaults need a buff.

Keep the discussion going and, please, keep it in lines with the original topic.

Thanks everyone!


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Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 323	Posted - 2015.04.15 12:16:00 - [1] - Quote I agree, for many reasons. 1st: as IWS said the game has "too many variables." (which I believe has no effect on game because not all variables would be used in game), this would cut varibles involving suits considerably. (even though it isn't needed after deployment). Still, it would relieve a little stress on the cell, even if it's just a little bit. 2nd: INCREASES TTK! YESSIR! finally! I wouldn't see a proto suit and get super scared. 3rd: i can use up my resources, and get more eHP per tier at a low cost. I can also build complex fits... Like actually have a scanning assault. 4th: it could make cpu/pg be reworked for some suits and/or modules. The ADS tourney! Join today!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 340	Posted - 2015.04.18 21:13:00 - [2] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: We have to make sure we adjust CPU/PG to accommodate the new slots. If new players have to leave module slots empty because they don't have the CPU/PG to fill them then we are right back where we are now. A good example would be a cal assault. At basic, one has plenty of freedom on fitting space But at pro, it is squeeze fitting. I honestly don't think it's the suit tbh, i think it's the costs of pro highslot modules. But that's just my opinion, just a thought The ADS tourney! Join today!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 361	Posted - 2015.04.23 12:11:00 - [3] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: For me, I would have the Starter fits still be what they are now. It could be a good tool for the hypothetical new players (HNP). "Cool, I have these suits! I can kill people." "Wait, why does this suit have so many more slots? Alright, I guess I will build this suit just like that one." For Militia suits, I am little torn. On one hand, it sucks for the HNP to have the ONLY suit they can use being so so much weaker than even the Basic Suit. A Militia Medium Caldari Frame would have 2/1/1 while a Basic Medium Caldari Frame would have 4/3/1. That doesn't amount to too much extra HP, like 100 with Basic modules, but it is still a concern. The concern is that the new players is making a choice in race before knowing what the hell each race does, but that is of course off topic. I would suggest that Basic and Advanced suits get what is underlined in the proposal while Militia and Starter suits do not. It provides a LOT of power very early. For less than 60k SP, they can get a suit that is far more threatening than what is currently possible. It gives them a big juicy carrot to make themselves a superior suit. Frames would probably need a nerf in the CPU/PG department, believe it or not. The Basic Medium Frame is 195/37 while the Basic Caldari Assault has 178/27. Either the Frame needs a reduction or the Basic Assaults need a buff. Keep the discussion going and, please, keep it in lines with the original topic. Thanks everyone! Thats true too! But honestly.... All cal suits need a lil love on fittings, or sHP needs lower fitting costs. e.g: i can squeeze mostly advanced on a g-1 with low skills, but need almost max skills for the same thing with a c-1. skills cal ass 4, core 5, electronics 5, engineering 4, light weapons 5 Vs gal ass 1, core 2, light weapons 1 Neeext, would be lowering suit costs... At the moment all basic on a basic comes to about 10-12k Now, im only thinking for the new peeps.... So... Yu kinda feel me? The ADS tourney! Join today!