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        |  Aero Yassavi
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9665
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 05:54:00 -
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 How about instead of allowing no trading at all, we allow ISK based items (and their Aurum equivalents) to be tradeable from the start, and then everything else at loyalty rank 4?
 
 CCP rightfully anticipated exploits such as using alts to give you extra warbarge component production, experimental weapon production, the free booster from the recruitment link, and all the free stuff from the newsletters (omega boosters and officer weapons). But not allowing new players to trade at all is off putting and not ideal for the NPE. This proposal should fix that.
 
 Am I overlooking an exploit?
 
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        |  Jadek Menaheim
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
 5769
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:14:00 -
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 Newsletter rewards are sort of an exploit...except that requires having played the long con.
 
 @JadekMenaheim | 
      
      
        |  JL3Eleven
 Ancient Exiles.
 
 2282
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:16:00 -
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 Aero Yassavi wrote:How about instead of allowing no trading at all, we allow ISK based items (and their Aurum equivalents) to be tradeable from the start, and then everything else at loyalty rank 4?
 CCP rightfully anticipated exploits such as using alts to give you extra warbarge component production, experimental weapon production, the free booster from the recruitment link, and all the free stuff from the newsletters (omega boosters and officer weapons). But not allowing new players to trade at all is off putting and not ideal for the NPE. This proposal should fix that.
 
 Am I overlooking an exploit?
 
 
 Real question: What would someone with ISK want with ISK based items? TBH, I'd rather buy it from the market than mess with someone.
 
 Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details. | 
      
      
        |  JL3Eleven
 Ancient Exiles.
 
 2282
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:17:00 -
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 Jadek Menaheim wrote:Newsletter rewards are sort of an exploit...except that requires having played the long con. 
 
  
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        |  Jadek Menaheim
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
 5769
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:18:00 -
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 @JL3Eleven
 They originally had the idea that they could undercut the NPC vendor with bulk orders.
 
 @JadekMenaheim | 
      
      
        |  JL3Eleven
 Ancient Exiles.
 
 2286
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:28:00 -
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 Jadek Menaheim wrote:@JL3ElevenThey originally had the idea that they could undercut the NPC vendor with bulk orders.
 
 
 Yea I'm totally aware, buy why bother for such a small sum?
 
 
 
 P.S. I would like to talk to you regarding the "future". Message me when your available.
 
 Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details. | 
      
      
        |  Meisterjager Jagermeister
 
 854
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 06:44:00 -
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 I think I have missed something.
 What is this "the trading restrictions at Loyalty Rank 4" of which you speak?
 
 AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge | 
      
      
        |  Aero Yassavi
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9678
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 15:05:00 -
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 What if it's a new player who joined a corp and a corp mate has a stash of suits from salvage that the new player could use?
 
 Hmm this makes me thing a new player should receive trades regardless just not trade. Maybe that's how it is?
 
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        |  Joel II X
 Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
 
 7068
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 15:06:00 -
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 Loyalty Rank 2?
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        |  Aero Yassavi
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9678
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 15:08:00 -
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 Joel II X wrote:Loyalty Rank 2? Too easy
 
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        |  Regnier Feros
 Pielords
 
 303
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 16:08:00 -
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 Aero Yassavi wrote:Joel II X wrote:Loyalty Rank 2? Too easy Faction standing lvl 2
 
 "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai | 
      
      
        |  Roy Ventus
 Axis of Chaos
 
 1932
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 16:16:00 -
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 Are loyalty points passively gained? Because they should be. And whenever they do something game-breakingly illegal, they get a temp halt on their Loyalty points?
 
 
 But ehh...
 
 
 What if players get taxed on these simple tradings based on their loyalty, with level 4 being the 0% tax?
 Edit: It doesn't have to be by percentage. Could just be an actual amount of ISK. Lvl 1 - 2000 ISK, Lvl 2 - 1000 ISK, Lvl 3 - 500 ISK, Lvl 4 - 0 ISK.
 
 
 I can see why this might be an issue but at the same damn time, players are already getting screwed out of trading.
 
 "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." 
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        |  Nestil
 Nos Nothi
 
 219
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 16:36:00 -
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 A s someone else already suggested: how about active player trading? So when someone sends an item the other must accept it or it will not be send...
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        |  Aero Yassavi
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 9681
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.15 17:22:00 -
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 Nestil wrote:A s someone else already suggested: how about active player trading? So when someone sends an item the other must accept it or it will not be send...
 So abandon that rank 4 crap ( or reduce it to lvl 2) and bring active player trading....
 But then what about legitimate siblings/roommates who share a PS3? Restricting what can be traded by rank seems more full proof
 
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        |  Nestil
 Nos Nothi
 
 219
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.16 04:13:00 -
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 Aero Yassavi wrote:Nestil wrote:A s someone else already suggested: how about active player trading? So when someone sends an item the other must accept it or it will not be send...
 So abandon that rank 4 crap ( or reduce it to lvl 2) and bring active player trading....
 But then what about legitimate siblings/roommates who share a PS3? Restricting what can be traded by rank seems more full proof 
 Yeah except that even though I play dust since chromosome and have 27k kills I'm still sitting with loyalty rank 3 with 6300 points missing for you the next rank....well which excludes me from trading as whole.
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        |  Apocalyptic Destroyer
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 416
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.16 04:17:00 -
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 Loyalty Rank at 4 is perfectly fine. Stop Complaining, Stop B*&%$ing !!! God Man !!! You guys are lucky enough to even have trading allowed.
 
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        |  Adipem Nothi
 Nos Nothi
 
 8774
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.04.16 04:17:00 -
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 Aero Yassavi wrote:Am I overlooking an exploit?
 I can't think of any other exploits.
 
 Shoot scout with yes.
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