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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 19:14:00 -
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So ive decided to spec into minlogi to see how OP a minlogi is for a armor tanked squad. And holy cow i was right, its the #1 armor tanker crutch in the entire game. Now i undeerstand why people where against my idea for a shield recharger tool. They just want to have a armor exlcusive crutch, they do not want to compete with faster moving shield squads, they do not want competition on their logistic turf. Seriously this is just batshit insane, i can rep a dude accross the street with a lai dai flux reptool and minlogi 5.
I demand that the cal. logi gets reworked to be a shield logi and introduce a shield recharger tool.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 19:26:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:So ive decided to spec into minlogi to see how OP a minlogi is for a armor tanked squad. And holy cow i was right, its the #1 armor tanker crutch in the entire game. Now i undeerstand why people where against my idea for a shield recharger tool. They just want to have a armor exlcusive crutch, they do not want to compete with faster moving shield squads, they do not want competition on their logistic turf. Seriously this is just batshit insane, i can rep a dude accross the street with a lai dai flux reptool and minlogi 5.
I demand that the cal. logi gets reworked to be a shield logi and introduce a shield recharger tool. I love my Cal Logi but it would be nice to get some Nanohives that repair shields or something. I guess the drawback to this idea would be a player throwing out a Hive that reps armor and then throwing out a Hive that reps shields, could be a little OP I guess lol. I do love my Cal Logi tho 
How would that be OP? a single grenade ontop of you and you loose alot of your health and both hives at the same time.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 19:36:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:For every Logi repping a Sentinel, there's one less slayer or Scout on the field. Logi + Sentinel is better than just Sentinel + Sentinel. That's called teamwork though. It's very easy to kill a Logi, and a Logi can do little without the help of it's team.
Logi is not OP. It's called teamwork. A Logi is also defenceless whilst repping.
Yeah right try to take the objective on the gal. research facility during DOM while there are 6 heavys and 2 minlogis sitting behind them. Its not just that you aswell get a insane WP advantage and earn OB's insanely fast compared to any regular squad.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:05:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:
Yeah right try to take the objective on the gal. research facility during DOM while there are 6 heavys and 2 minlogis sitting behind them.
As if this isn't what we are all doing every time we play that map, lol. So you want a sheild rep tool that reps through damage, to use on a sheild tanked heavy with reactives on the lows, and native armor reps? Meanwhile, the armor tanked heavy is over here with no sheild recharge whatsoever while under fire. Hmm, seems a little unbalanced, don't you think?
Yeah right tell that the 1300HP armor heavy that gets repped like mad from miles away and has a damage mod on aswell.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:14:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:And not to mention, what happens when you've got a sheild rep Logi and an armor rep logi going with cores on the same squad? That's just insane.
Not more insane then having 2 minlogis repping a heavy.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.14 22:11:00 -
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Its not a asbtract concept it was allready there for vehicles. You could do shield logistics with the charybdis logi LAV and armor logistics with the limbus. So the coding would be there allready and you just have to take the reptool model, make it heal shields only and add a new skill into the game for that.
And i do not understand the point of people that when a shield logi and a armor logi healing 1 dude would be a apocalyptic thing. Amarr sentinels with 4 complex plates whos aswell getting repped by 2 minlogis is aswell unkillable if you go up against him solo. We are talking here teamplay and people think that 1 guy with a gun should be 1 heavy+2 logis? I dont see the logic behind that due to the fact that you are basically fighting 3 people, not one.
Plus you should allways focus on each suits primary tank. Its for example useless to try to rep a cal. assault with a reptool due to the very low amount of armor. In every scenario it is better to support the main tanking capabilitys.
2 armor repping logis> 1 armor repper+ 1 shield regnerater
2 shield regneratering logis> 1 armor repper+ 1 shield regnerater
2 shield regneratering logis = 2 armor repping logis
You have to aswell keep in mind that shields cannot get over 1000HP the maximum that a cal. sentinel can get is 946HP. A amarr sentinel can get up to 1344HP on armor. Thats 398HP more then the cal sentinel. So the cal sentinel has less base HP then the amarr and cannot even use a damage mod with that high amounts of shields.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:33:00 -
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M1tch Rapp wrote:I think it shouldn't be able to rep through damage and it should be more like shield booster. It should be a deployable.
Perhaps it could be able to rep through damage if pulsed like a shield booster. And maybe a suit couldn't receive the boost until after depleted delay.
This would make it less OP if paired with a min logi. You'd have to take cover to recover shields with or without the booster.
Deployables for combat scenarios are garbage cause 1 grenade> rep hives. Meanwhile the minlogi can stay like 30m behind a heavy and dont bother to be grenaded cause no grenade in the world has that big of a blast radius. It might be true that a rifle out DPS the reps but thats only the case if you are 100% accurate and all your shots hit the target. The main argument would be that the guy who is getting repped has the advantage cause he basically has more helth to chrew trough.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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