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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:16:00 -
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Based on comment CCP Rattati made about Active Boosters and what if it was per battle. You can read other feedback here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2722115#post2722115
With that in mind. Can you take the following survey about the type of booster you would like:
http://strawpoll.me/4115214
Additional questions if you would like to answer:
- Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
- Have you ever purchased an active booster?
- Have you ever used an active booster?
- What do you think about active boosters?
CCP Rattati wrote:Hawkings Greenback wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Boosters in general should move away from being time based and more on straight instead to earnable LP/SP. No time limit, earn it at your leisure. I would be SO more inclined to buy active boosters. That seems like a far to sensible a thing to do and I would be more inclined to use boosters if it was the case. Not everyone can spend 10 hours plus a day on Dust every day. Good idea that. What about number of Battles?
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4259
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:19:00 -
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/awaits the results of this thread
See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9115
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:19:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
I am not. Why? Because life happens. Sometimes I will only play a single match a night for a couple weeks because of work or family. I am not getting my best bang for my buck when I buy active boosters.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes. 1 or 3 day varieties.
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes.
What do you think about active boosters?
They are useful for short events or marathoning Dust one weekend. I have no idea why anyone would buy the 7 and 30 day boosters though.
@Ripley_Riley
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7059
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:43:00 -
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Depends on my needs. If I were still in high school, I would say the time one because I'd be able to get as many as I could during a weekend or break.
As an adult, I'd say the battles one. Currently, I have a lot of my plate and a seemingly free weekend may turn into something else all of a sudden.
Conclusion: Battle Boosters
Edit: I have purchased and used active boosters, yes. I haven't bought one recently, and I still have a few leftover which include a few omega. The only one I really use are the passive boosters if I have them since they don't require my attention. |
knight guard fury
Carbon 7
1603
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:58:00 -
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How about a time based "X" battle amount booster.
So it's still the same as it is now, but it's capped at how many battles you are able to do before its gone?
Kin of the Vherokior tribe
I'm a pure minmatar soldier
I do not associate with anyone that is not Mnmatar
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CMDR Girr
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:01:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
I never do unless it there is an event or a sale on Omegas. I stock up on omegas during the sale, then use on events.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes, Omegas only.
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes during events, or on the rare occasion i'm home for a weekend alone feel like crushing Dust all day.
What do you think about active boosters?
I think they are ok, but the fact that myself and i'm sure other players, i don't know if i will have time to play when I get home, so when I activate an ACTIVE booster, I better be home to get my money's worth. Because of this, I avoid them. Not worth the risk..
Commander Girr. Doom, etc, etc.
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ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
219
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:07:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
Yes- although FW LP boosters. Because grinding LP takes forever
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Other than FW, not directly, although they have been included in Aurum packs I've bought.
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes
What do you think about active boosters?
Once you get used to the extra SP, losing the bonus they provide is disappointing.
CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot.
--Cellar Door
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
243
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:36:00 -
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I see problems with battle based boosters - scotty, disconnects, squad member disconnects. These would generate a lot of support tickets me thinks. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9117
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:38:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:I see problems with battle based boosters - scotty, disconnects, squad member disconnects. These would generate a lot of support tickets me thinks. Only have the booster battle count checked when a victory or defeat gets registered.
@Ripley_Riley
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
246
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:I see problems with battle based boosters - scotty, disconnects, squad member disconnects. These would generate a lot of support tickets me thinks. Only have the booster battle count checked when a victory or defeat gets registered.
Then people quit before the end if their wp are not as high as desired. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9118
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:45:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:Then people quit before the end if their wp are not as high as desired. And? It's not like with the old model they couldn't do the exact same thing.
@Ripley_Riley
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
870
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:I see problems with battle based boosters - scotty, disconnects, squad member disconnects. These would generate a lot of support tickets me thinks. Only have the booster battle count checked when a victory or defeat gets registered.
Until they fix our Scotty-inflicted geworfenheit, a win/loss condition doesn't solve the problem with a battle booster. At the moment, I'd prefer a fixed SP amount, so I'd know what I was getting for my money. Maybe different tiers, like 50/75/100% Cap.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
247
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:54:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:Then people quit before the end if their wp are not as high as desired. And? It's not like with the old model they couldn't do the exact same thing.
With the current boosters quitting before the end forfeits the sp and isk gain only - with an X matches booster quitting still forfeits isk and sp but saves a boosted game for a better boosting opportunity. Maybe I'm wrong but folks go a long way to maximise efficiency and anything that encourages quitting matches should be considered very carefully. |
Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3299
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:01:00 -
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active damage booster
+5% damage while booster is active
come on CCP you know you wanna
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9120
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:04:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:active damage booster
+5% damage while booster is active
come on CCP you know you wanna DIAF
@Ripley_Riley
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3299
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:active damage booster
+5% damage while booster is active
come on CCP you know you wanna DIAF
i dont know that acronym
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9121
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:13:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:I dont know that acronym Die In A Fire
@Ripley_Riley
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3301
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:50:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:I dont know that acronym Die In A Fire
if i actually cause that booster to exsist i would deserve that.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
1361
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:02:00 -
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use to buy 30day active and passive (kinda waste of money with the old cap) now would only buy 1day active to use as needed much more effective. at over 60 million sp do I need to boost ? (do you even lift bro?)
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Caldari Loyalist
22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
1499
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:14:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:/awaits the results of this thread
Even early on, I'm a bit surprised that people like the battle one but if they figure out what the average amount of battles in a given week are and go a bit above that to cover any disconnects or other problems, it might work/
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9645
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:26:00 -
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Only boosters I still use occasionally are faction boosters. No need for SP. I will say this:is there any reason why we can't have time based boosters and battle based boosters? So if you feel your going to be on a bunch get time based, if you're not get battle based.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
225
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:53:00 -
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I'd much rather a 12 hour booster for half the price, as it is I stock up on boosters and when I have the free time use 3 at the same time while grinding for 24 hours. get allmost 3Mil SP in a day
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
425
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:08:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Based on comment CCP Rattati made about Active Boosters and what if it was per battle. You can read other feedback here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2722115#post2722115With that in mind. Can you take the following survey about the type of booster you would like: http://strawpoll.me/4115214Additional questions if you would like to answer:
- Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
- Have you ever purchased an active booster?
- Have you ever used an active booster?
- What do you think about active boosters?
CCP Rattati wrote:Hawkings Greenback wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Boosters in general should move away from being time based and more on straight instead to earnable LP/SP. No time limit, earn it at your leisure. I would be SO more inclined to buy active boosters. That seems like a far to sensible a thing to do and I would be more inclined to use boosters if it was the case. Not everyone can spend 10 hours plus a day on Dust every day. Good idea that. What about number of Battles?
Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
Yes. Life.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes
What do you think about active boosters
6 million is a lot of sp in one week. Realistically only try hards with little to no life will use it to their advantage. I personally don't care. Maybe 2 active boosters max.
New slot if new type of booster comes out.
And can we please kill the orange bubble asking is to spend money on this game. I will spend money if I want to. Maybe make that a feature for new players only. I will pay to not have that bubble in my face. Please remove the orange notification bubble. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5985
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:11:00 -
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1.Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
No. I don't even know what to do with the SP I already have
2.Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes
3. Have you ever used an active booster?
No, I just like to look at them... OF COURSE I HAVE
4. What do you think about active boosters?
I'm on to CCP. Active boosters make me want to play 24/7 while they're active. But I like my semi-casual gamer attitude.
Some details can be ignored
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5818
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:25:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
I have in the past when I had more dedicated time to focus to Dust for large chunks of play. However due to life situation I often cannot dedicate enough time reliably to make active boosters be worth it. I could purchase 1 days boosts but even then its difficult to justify the price for the benefit, and I much prefer to buy in bulk to get bulk discounts, but again I often cannot play in a reliable enough manner to justify a time-based Booster.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes. Both normal and omega, but not anymore.
Have you ever used an active booster?
I will use the ones I get from boxes/daily rewards.
What do you think about active boosters?
I would much prefer something that is not time-based, may it be total bonus SP or battle linked.
On the topic of concerns over battle-based boosters and backing out/disconnects....one way you could reliably handle it are "Instant Booster Credits" where you can purchase Instant Boosters with AUR that can be used at your leisure. This means that the bonus is only applied upon completion of the match on the EOM screen, and would allow players flexibility (ie not wanting to use a booster on a battle that was not very SP rich). Obviously the big difference between this and what currently have (buying them a la carte) is that you could buy in bulk and get a discount per booster that way.
Costco Boosters are Best Boosters.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Hellstorm Inc
General Tso's Alliance
789
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:28:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Based on comment CCP Rattati made about Active Boosters and what if it was per battle. You can read other feedback here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2722115#post2722115With that in mind. Can you take the following survey about the type of booster you would like: http://strawpoll.me/4115214Additional questions if you would like to answer:
- Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
- Have you ever purchased an active booster?
- Have you ever used an active booster?
- What do you think about active boosters?
1. No. Real life job - hate wasting it when I know i can't put time enough in to make it worth it.
2. Yes. No job - but some money.
3. Yes.
4. Wasted on my current RL situation.
The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
1500
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Posted - 2015.04.14 12:51:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Depends on my needs. If I were still in high school, I would say the time one because I'd be able to get as many as I could during a weekend or break.
As an adult, I'd say the battles one. Currently, I have a lot of my plate and a seemingly free weekend may turn into something else all of a sudden.
Conclusion: Battle Boosters
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This basically describes the 2 types of players in dust.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
24
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:20:00 -
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With a full time job, a wife, and 2 kids I don't have the time to put in that others might. Give me the option to buy skill points.
Scouts and Swarms
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
249
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:27:00 -
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GeorgeN76 wrote:With a full time job, a wife, and 2 kids I don't have the time to put in that others might. Give me the option to buy skill points.
You alread have this in instant boosters and even passive boosters to an extent. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2728
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:31:00 -
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I'd personally prefer the actives to last a set number of matches rather than a fixed time frame.
The passive's are fine as they are.
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
24
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:34:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:GeorgeN76 wrote:With a full time job, a wife, and 2 kids I don't have the time to put in that others might. Give me the option to buy skill points. You alread have this in instant boosters and even passive boosters to an extent.
Your right but I want to be able to just buy them in the store.
Scouts and Swarms
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
24
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:35:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:I'd personally prefer the actives to last a set number of matches rather than a fixed time frame.
The passive's are fine as they are.
Agreed
Scouts and Swarms
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reydient
ROGUE RELICS
102
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Posted - 2015.04.14 14:50:00 -
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I 100% agree. I have continued to support this game by buying boosters of all types. I admittedly, by 30 day active boosters for casual play but having a career, a wife and kids. My casual play usually turns into 3 hr grind fest in which I activate three one day boosters. Recently I have began to question active boosters and more so FW boosters.
We purchase a one day boosters to receive 24 hours of boosted game time, the reality is that you need to sleep, this is at least 4 hrs lost. Long queue times could mean , in extreme cases can be 24 minutes lost waiting for a match. No to mention some game modes have high incidence of lag and removing players from matches. On the high end getting removed from a match could be 25 minutes lost on the low in 7 minutes. My question , is it fair to in this case to lose out on boosted time. I think battle boosters is an excellent idea, I get booster per battle and it allows me to spend my aurum on other stuff or more boosters . Although as a business model , CCP knows that people like me have the money and will pay 5 bucks for 3 boosters for 3 hrs of boosted pay. Touche to you guys and your business model!
I think that we the paying customer , and more so the returning paying consumer need these options. We want to feel included in game play and game play options . Right now it feels like a penalty , not only do I Spend 400 to 500 on dust a year but most of the stuff I get I only use about 8% , if we consider boosters, I know that I am not a lot either . Its stupid, yes but I believe in the game but CCP could definitely be kind to us and our pocket books or kinder at least :-).
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
187
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Posted - 2015.04.14 14:59:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
I am not currently purchasing active boosters. I have a very bad habit of doing 4 matches then doing something else. If squaded, will do more matches but doing more than 20 matches in a row is impossible for me. After I have one play session, I am good for the day. Due to this behaviour, I do not see a positive return for me to buy active boosters.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes.
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes.
What do you think about active boosters?
Good to have in different flavors. Per battle is a good idea AS LONG as it is consumed only if certain parameteres are set
a. Have x amount of minutes in the battle.
b. In case of dc, it is not consumed.
Amarr Victor
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reydient
ROGUE RELICS
102
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Posted - 2015.04.14 15:14:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Cross Atu wrote:/awaits the results of this thread Even early on, I'm a bit surprised that people like the battle one but if they figure out what the average amount of battles in a given week are and go a bit above that to cover any disconnects or other problems, it might work/
Anecdotally, a person with disposable time will want to invest in a time based booster. This population is usually not the working population. They benefit from time based booster system . At the same time. I am interested in what population is working and plays dust regardless of country . I believe , with no objective data, that the working man is buying the majority of boosters and this is the population we want to sate . Battle boosters benefit us and drives us to spend money and by more boosters. I am also aware that dust is good at the " cash grab" because you can buy aurum with 2 bucks. You don't have to be a working man for two bucks. |
reydient
ROGUE RELICS
102
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Posted - 2015.04.14 15:16:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
I am not currently purchasing active boosters. I have a very bad habit of doing 4 matches then doing something else. If squaded, will do more matches but doing more than 20 matches in a row is impossible for me. After I have one play session, I am good for the day. Due to this behaviour, I do not see a positive return for me to buy active boosters.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
Yes.
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yes.
What do you think about active boosters?
Good to have in different flavors. Per battle is a good idea AS LONG as it is consumed only if certain parameteres are set
a. Have x amount of minutes in the battle.
b. In case of dc, it is not consumed.
Great touch and even better follow thru and foresight on a future problems . |
Everything Dies
Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny
1330
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Posted - 2015.04.14 16:16:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:I'd personally prefer the actives to last a set number of matches rather than a fixed time frame.
The passive's are fine as they are.
But what happens when you join a match half-way through and you have to waste a boost?
I'd rather see the active boosters become "instant boost packs" that let you choose which battles you want to apply them towards. Sell 'em in packs of 10, 20, etc. and give them something like a week-long duration from when they're activated for you to use your boosts.
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
137
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Posted - 2015.04.14 16:52:00 -
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Are you currently purchasing active boosters? why or why not?
Yes, the one who come in the Mercenary Pack.
Have you ever purchased an active booster?
two of 3 days
Have you ever used an active booster?
Yeap, twice, a weekend I fell illness (Flu)
What do you think about active boosters?
Short in time ?, Short in Skill ? Buy Aurum (Boosters) Today.
-- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
1504
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Posted - 2015.04.14 23:52:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:I see problems with battle based boosters - scotty, disconnects, squad member disconnects. These would generate a lot of support tickets me thinks.
I think this could be mitigated for the most part, like it would only booster if you spent xx time in battle and would only be used up when you get to the final battle screen.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
1505
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Only boosters I still use occasionally are faction boosters. No need for SP. I will say this:is there any reason why we can't have time based boosters and battle based boosters? So if you feel your going to be on a bunch get time based, if you're not get battle based.
options are great.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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