I like the idea of four man squads. What the difference between corp battles and PC? What is that?

You don't need districts and clone packs

I can somewhat be down with 4 man squads, but being able to play with less friends really sucks, and we just got matchmaking doing a far greater job. It believe there is a thread about this in Feedback and Discussions however.

As we've said, YOUR inability to craft squads that can handle pubs is NOT the problem of those who can.

This game shouldn't be crafted to appeal solely to those who want to lone-wolf and shouldn't penalize those who actually
have the basic social skills to pull people together to run pubs.

6 man allows a greater range of flexibility and helps keep vehicle operators attractive options in pub squads.

As far as squad size in FW/PC, doesn't matter. Most successful FW people qsync a whole team, and PC of course voice comms all together.

Dropping the size from 6 to 4 in Pubs is bad and having 4 man squads SUCKED in Beta. We don't need to regress to that.

My take: Reduce squads back to 4 for pubs. Additionally make it so no two squads of the same corp can be on the same team. I just don't recall things ever being bad match making wise when squads were smaller.

Increase squad size for FW to give bigger squads something to do. Remove the need to Q-sync probably resulting in less squads leaving battles.

Or just bring back corp battles. There should be better things for corps to do then proto stomp pubs. Each team throws isk in the pot and winner takes all.

Basically just give bigger squads better options than pubs, while I've never done PC I don't get the impression that it's in a good place and if that is the so called end game it's not doing it's job.

Flame on.

I like the idea of four man squads. What the difference between corp battles and PC? What is that?

The idea is to give people as elite as you think you are a better option than steamrolling pubs. Thus bringing back corp battles, where you and your try hard friends can put your money where your mouth is and go up against a team full of other try hards. The smaller squads is meant to be a disincentive from corps stomping pubs. You know unless you can't actually go toe to toe with another full team of try hards.

The idea is to give people as elite as you think you are a better option than steamrolling pubs. Thus bringing back corp battles, where you and your try hard friends can put your money where your mouth is and go up against a team full of other try hards. The smaller squads is meant to be a disincentive from corps stomping pubs. You know unless you can't actually go toe to toe with another full team of try hards.

And, I see full groups of Planet Express all the time. So, for you to hate on me, who runs mixed squads of buddies, is kind of funny in my opinion. The more the merrier, and if you can't seem to get into the groove of teamwork and teamplay, you will lose.

In EVE, the same applies. You run with a team, you can do more. Run solo, and you can have fun yes, but you will get thrashed by an organized group and that should apply in DUST. Teamwork > Solo play.

Save for the fact that its my own EVE corp Planet Express LLC with only me in it.

My take: Reduce squads back to 4 for pubs. Additionally make it so no two squads of the same corp can be on the same team. I just don't recall things ever being bad match making wise when squads were smaller.

Increase squad size for FW to give bigger squads something to do. Remove the need to Q-sync probably resulting in less squads leaving battles.

Or just bring back corp battles. There should be better things for corps to do then proto stomp pubs. Each team throws isk in the pot and winner takes all.

Basically just give bigger squads better options than pubs, while I've never done PC I don't get the impression that it's in a good place and if that is the so called end game it's not doing it's job.

Flame on.

I never forget a corp-squad when they go balls-to-the-wall AV on me. I see Planet Express, and I knew it was AV. Anyways, if you are last member, then I wish you the best.

Two different corps all together, in fact I even got a mail from one member calling me fake ass Planet Express. Some people just don't like getting killed.

Having squad size of four was BAD. Leave it at six, and allow people to run the squads as they see fit.

Having four man squad puts tanks at a severe penalty when wanting to use teamwork.

I like the idea of four man squads. What the difference between corp battles and PC? What is that?

Theoretically and mathematically speaking, making squads 4 man would make it easier for Scotty to match even teams as that is 4x4 for 16.

Logically it is flawed as it assumes several conditions including but not limited to:

*All squads in Que are 4 person or divisible by 4
*A pool of solo players to pull from to fill out a team is available for that game mode
*The pool of players contains people of equal skill in numbers divisible by 4 at all skill levels

We have essentially 7 ques -- 3 public and 4 factional. So we have a split player base migrating back and forth. Sometimes 4 man squads will yield balanced teams. Sometimes 6 man squads (with a 4 man in there for kicks) and or randoms will yield balanced teams.

The perception that teams will magically be of the same level at 4 in public is based on this weird idea that Scotty doesn't have enough people to match make from. This may or may not be true -- but changing squad size does not affect number of people Scotty gets to choose from.

All it does is make it so fewer friends get to play together. And as a lot of people don't want to play unless they are with their friends -- they simply will log out. Giving less for Scotty to match with, making games more lopsided.

So, in actuality, smaller squad sizes has a better chance to make the problem of unbalanced teams worse than better.

(Also -- anyone with an ounce of brainpower will tell you -- learn from history. We used to have 4 man squads. The increase in squad size was one of the most widespread beloved changes in Dust history.)