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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Astroya Conglomerate.
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:07:00 -
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-nowadays.
The HMG has less or similar range as Ion Pistols and it's the only heavy weapon intended for AI and it's not easy to break through shields with it. Sentinels scan profiles and scan precision suck so people easily sneak up on you, their sprint and movement speed makes it difficult to chase targets and current TTK makes a Sentinel a walking bullet sponge that dies within seconds if they don't have a reptool on them 24/7... so what's the point of using them as a solo player?
Maybe it's time we get a new heavy weapon that's better against shields than armor and has more range than the HMG (Call it Ion Driver or something, lol) and sentinels should probably get a buff to their HP and or Resistances, slightly buff ewar and finally nerf Repair tools that are one of the reasons that brought sentinels to the sad and dependent state in which they find themselve's now... oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this.
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:16:00 -
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I adapt. I'm a Sentinel user. I play solo most of the time.
I want the Ion Disruptor now, the ultimate heavy weapon. Driver is more Matari sounding, Ion is pure Gallente bruh. And the Sents don't need buffs, they survive more than the rest. The HMG still shreds through shields, I atleast do. But IonD please. CCP NOW.
BRUH.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3316
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:16:00 -
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The point, dear friend is the wonderful piece of tech called a Forge gun.
The Militia forge gun, with practice, can make a mockery out of proto guys, snipers, campers, people who get up in your face.
Ditch that scrubby ass HMG and get to work on learning to forge bro!
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Astroya Conglomerate.
186
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:21:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:The point, dear friend is the wonderful piece of tech called a Forge gun.
The Militia forge gun, with practice, can make a mockery out of proto guys, snipers, campers, people who get up in your face.
Ditch that scrubby ass HMG and get to work on learning to forge bro! Lol, I already have.
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Astroya Conglomerate.
186
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:22:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I adapt. I'm a Sentinel user. I play solo most of the time.
I want the Ion Disruptor now, the ultimate heavy weapon. Driver is more Matari sounding, Ion is pure Gallente bruh. And the Sents don't need buffs, they survive more than the rest. The HMG still shreds through shields, I atleast do. But IonD please. CCP NOW. Ion Disruptor does sound way better.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:22:00 -
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Militia forge cannot overheat and has 8 times the range of the HMG. Confirming militia forge is OP and needs to be removed.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3318
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:23:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:The point, dear friend is the wonderful piece of tech called a Forge gun.
The Militia forge gun, with practice, can make a mockery out of proto guys, snipers, campers, people who get up in your face.
Ditch that scrubby ass HMG and get to work on learning to forge bro! Lol, I already have.
Good.
Now, do you feel the power surging through your veins? Do you hear the sound of the Gemini microcapacitor winding up as it charges when you are away from the game and about to go to sleep...?
Yesssss! Power overwhelming!
#cough# .... ermm hi there..
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2508
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:25:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote:-nowadays. The HMG has less or similar range as Ion Pistols and it's the only heavy weapon intended for AI and it's not easy to break through shields with it. Sentinels scan profiles and scan precision suck so people easily sneak up on you, their sprint and movement speed makes it difficult to chase targets and current TTK makes a Sentinel a walking bullet sponge that dies within seconds if they don't have a reptool on them 24/7... so what's the point of using them as a solo player? Maybe it's time we get a new heavy weapon that's better against shields than armor and has more range than the HMG (Call it Ion Driver or something, lol) and sentinels should probably get a buff to their HP and or Resistances, slightly buff ewar and finally nerf Repair tools that are one of the reasons that brought sentinels to the sad and dependent state in which they find themselve's now, maybe they could get that heat build-up thing that some have suggested for a while now and gain some WP from vehicle repair to make up for it... oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this.
The HMG still has greater than 20 meters of advantage over the ion pistols 20 meter range. You are outright fabricating this 'fact'. Most of the rest of your complaints are called 'drawbacks' and are there to balance out the sentinels serious advantages. I'm so sorry that you cant steamroll everything like an invincible battle-god with a 1000dps weapon and 2000hp suit getting fed HP at a rate faster than any other suit.
And no **** you if you want more hp on suits that are ALREADY CAPABLE OF HITTING 2000 HP when bricked (lol amarr sentinel!). You still have one of the highest damaging weapons in the game, figure it the **** out.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:29:00 -
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Just have a faster Sentinel for solo play and a beast Sentinel for squad/team play. No problems.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Astroya Conglomerate.
186
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:29:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Jaran Vilktar wrote:-nowadays. The HMG has less or similar range as Ion Pistols and it's the only heavy weapon intended for AI and it's not easy to break through shields with it. Sentinels scan profiles and scan precision suck so people easily sneak up on you, their sprint and movement speed makes it difficult to chase targets and current TTK makes a Sentinel a walking bullet sponge that dies within seconds if they don't have a reptool on them 24/7... so what's the point of using them as a solo player? Maybe it's time we get a new heavy weapon that's better against shields than armor and has more range than the HMG (Call it Ion Driver or something, lol) and sentinels should probably get a buff to their HP and or Resistances, slightly buff ewar and finally nerf Repair tools that are one of the reasons that brought sentinels to the sad and dependent state in which they find themselve's now, maybe they could get that heat build-up thing that some have suggested for a while now and gain some WP from vehicle repair to make up for it... oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this. The HMG still has greater than 20 meters of advantage over the ion pistols 20 meter range. You are outright fabricating this 'fact'. And no **** you if you want more hp on suits that are ALREADY CAPABLE OF HITTING 2000 HP when bricked (lol amarr sentinel!). You still have one of the highest damaging weapons in the game, figure it the **** out. You can get about 1800 HP on a fully bricked Amarr Sentinel Ak.0... also, I never said it was a 'fact' that Ions have more or similar range to HMG's. I played with the HMG for a while today and I couldn't deal serious damage to enemies that were 25-30 meters away. I already know the range was nerfed in favor of the AHMG btw.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:33:00 -
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So you admit you were lying about ion pistols and hmgs having the same range? what else could be misrepresented by you!
Flawed premises and lies are a great way to start a discourse. I have no pity for your HMG / sentinel woes, it sounds like you have a serious case of the bads.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Astroya Conglomerate.
186
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:42:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:So you admit you were lying about ion pistols and hmgs having the same range? what else could be misrepresented by you!
Flawed premises and lies are a great way to start a discourse. I have no pity for your HMG / sentinel woes, it sounds like you have a serious case of the bads. But doc, I've been like this since I can remember and I haven't been able to do anything about it since I started playing. Tell me, what can I do to make it better?
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1009
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Posted - 2015.04.08 19:02:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Jaran Vilktar wrote:-nowadays. The HMG has less or similar range as Ion Pistols and it's the only heavy weapon intended for AI and it's not easy to break through shields with it. Sentinels scan profiles and scan precision suck so people easily sneak up on you, their sprint and movement speed makes it difficult to chase targets and current TTK makes a Sentinel a walking bullet sponge that dies within seconds if they don't have a reptool on them 24/7... so what's the point of using them as a solo player? Maybe it's time we get a new heavy weapon that's better against shields than armor and has more range than the HMG (Call it Ion Driver or something, lol) and sentinels should probably get a buff to their HP and or Resistances, slightly buff ewar and finally nerf Repair tools that are one of the reasons that brought sentinels to the sad and dependent state in which they find themselve's now, maybe they could get that heat build-up thing that some have suggested for a while now and gain some WP from vehicle repair to make up for it... oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this. The HMG still has greater than 20 meters of advantage over the ion pistols 20 meter range. You are outright fabricating this 'fact'. Most of the rest of your complaints are called 'drawbacks' and are there to balance out the sentinels serious advantages. I'm so sorry that you cant steamroll everything like an invincible battle-god with a 1000dps weapon and 2000hp suit getting fed HP at a rate faster than any other suit. And no **** you if you want more hp on suits that are ALREADY CAPABLE OF HITTING 2000 HP when bricked (lol amarr sentinel!). You still have one of the highest damaging weapons in the game, figure it the **** out.
Please tell me what combination of extenders and plates I need to make 2000 HP on an amar sentinel? Cos using all proto ones I find myself a bit short.
Not even being able to get basic facts right invalidates everything else you say.
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Marcus Stormfire
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.08 19:06:00 -
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Through experience I can confirm that Sentinels can perform very well at solo work. You just have to find the right suit and module combinations. I will leave the fun of discovering what suits/mod combo's are utterly evil to you guys.
-Marcus
-I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
727
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:12:00 -
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psss.....
pss...
Hey you. Yes you.... What? Do you seen any sentinels? No... Good Here I'm
Not much time left...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18060
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:15:00 -
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I'm a ******* awful Sentinel..... I mean I really try but they are so slow to react to everything and the HMG defies my capabilities to use. I spend my time trying to hit them with every bullet instead of spraying an area.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1932
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:23:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote: Oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this. I would but since you just don't have too many people complaining about them anymore , CCP might just feel like their in a good place . True you can't solo with them the way you might like but it's still possible if your in a game with people that's aware because your just not going to be alone with 31 other players , so to " solo " isn't really soloing because you will always have someone around you ... friend or foe .
I totally understand you though and feel for you Bro .
At least you don't have the forums full of complaints about your role anymore ... to me it was kinda bogus because after the heat increase they seemed like they were in a good place but to some that just wasn't enough .
You have people that just don't like what kills them .
Heavy hate , HAV hate , Swarm hate and ScR hate just to name a few .
Now you have people playing more roles other then heavy with a HMG and scout with a SG and whatever so it's not much of a problem , which was the problem .
Just don't see too many nerf scout and heavy threads anymore because people are playing other roles , to me that was more of a problem then anything else .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3342
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:25:00 -
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Solo work is possible if you use it as intended, not running around from point to point.
If you want to do that, however, the MinSent is actually quite viable.
My 'Quafe' Assault A-1 is made of a Sulfur-Tungsten-Silver-Gallium Alloy
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:29:00 -
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Maybe they should buff the HMG...even at the basic/militia level, it's still a freakin' minigun. Has poor range triumphed by the assault rifles and up close it's triumphed by the shotgun or those freakin' butter knives. CCP, how about making the miniguns actual miniguns? It's even powerful against shields isn't it? But irl it tears the sh*t out of metal..
4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3345
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:31:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Maybe they should buff the HMG...even at the basic/militia level, it's still a freakin' minigun. Has poor range triumphed by the assault rifles and up close it's triumphed by the shotgun or those freakin' butter knives. CCP, how about making the miniguns actual miniguns? It's even powerful against shields isn't it? But irl it tears the sh*t out of metal.. That's why its effective against armor...
My 'Quafe' Assault A-1 is made of a Sulfur-Tungsten-Silver-Gallium Alloy
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five times
Liverpool F.C.
110
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:33:00 -
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you got to spec in to all four sentinels
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
207
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:54:00 -
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I agree with new heavy weapons, not so much on the sents not being able to solo. A min sent is nice for soloing and also the gallente.
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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VAHZZ
1234
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:58:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Maybe they should buff the HMG...even at the basic/militia level, it's still a freakin' minigun. Has poor range triumphed by the assault rifles and up close it's triumphed by the shotgun or those freakin' butter knives. CCP, how about making the miniguns actual miniguns? It's even powerful against shields isn't it? But irl it tears the sh*t out of metal.. That's why its effective against armor...
BRUH.
Closed Beta Vet
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2015.04.08 20:58:00 -
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hmg was really only effective at 5-15 meters.
ammo wise that is.. anything further and you would be using 200+ rounds to down a target.
honestly though. its a freaking minigun.
it needs to be very destructive.
it needs to be capable of wiping out a bunch of scrubs grouped together.
it needs to carry lots and lots of ammo with a super large mag size.
it needs to be feared.
lets just do a massive buff to the hmg. but remove the sprint ability for all that wield it.
and maybe remove the sprint ability of all heavies and buff and resistances.
make them the true bullet sponges they were meant to be. you shouldnt need cover with that suit. you should be cover.
buuuuut.. thats probly never going to happen as most people seem to want twitch shooters and dont want their enemies to have no actual time to react.
because they have no skill except shooting first.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
207
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:05:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:hmg was really only effective at 5-15 meters.
ammo wise that is.. anything further and you would be using 200+ rounds to down a target.
honestly though. its a freaking minigun.
it needs to be very destructive.
it needs to be capable of wiping out a bunch of scrubs grouped together.
it needs to carry lots and lots of ammo with a super large mag size.
it needs to be feared.
lets just do a massive buff to the hmg. but remove the sprint ability for all that wield it.
and maybe remove the sprint ability of all heavies and buff and resistances.
make them the true bullet sponges they were meant to be. you shouldnt need cover with that suit. you should be cover.
buuuuut.. thats probly never going to happen as most people seem to want twitch shooters and dont want their enemies to have no actual time to react.
because they have no skill except shooting first.
Yeah actually make the weapon 'heavy' decrease user mobility, make it hard to control But make it powerful at the same time. Make it so we are actually wielding a force to be reckoned with
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2257
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:16:00 -
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Breach pistol is a sentinel's best friend XD
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:23:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:That's why its effective against armor...
Am I wrong to assume that the skill you upgrade that makes a weapon stronger against shields/armor is not what the weapon is more powerful against? or was it that the skill for HMGs actually is Armor effectiveness? Thought it was Shield effectiveness..if so, my mistake.
If not, what I'm saying is the skill and native HMG effectiveness should be against armor and you should l2r.
4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3353
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:08:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:LUGMOS wrote:That's why its effective against armor... Am I wrong to assume that the skill you upgrade that makes a weapon stronger against shields/armor is not what the weapon is more powerful against? or was it that the skill for HMGs actually is Armor effectiveness? Thought it was Shield effectiveness..if so, my mistake. If not, what I'm saying is the skill and native HMG effectiveness should be against armor and you should l2r. Proficiency skill adds armor damage, 100% sure of this.
My 'Quafe' Assault A-1 is made of a Sulfur-Tungsten-Silver-Gallium Alloy
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sir RAVEN WING
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3322
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:37:00 -
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I'll agree to a HMG buff when they don't kill my shield LAV in 3 seconds.
Not joking STD HMG did that to my shield LAV then killed me after I jumped out.
The HMG is both Anti Infantry and AV. No reason to buff right now.
"Vengeance. Vengeance is the name of the monster that consumed me so long ago." - Sir Raven Wing
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Project Carnifax
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:46:00 -
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Jaran Vilktar wrote:-nowadays. The HMG has less or similar range as Ion Pistols and it's the only heavy weapon intended for AI and it's not easy to break through shields with it. Sentinels scan profiles and scan precision suck so people easily sneak up on you, their sprint and movement speed makes it difficult to chase targets and current TTK makes a Sentinel a walking bullet sponge that dies within seconds if they don't have a reptool on them 24/7... so what's the point of using them as a solo player? Maybe it's time we get a new heavy weapon that's better against shields than armor and has more range than the HMG (Call it Ion Driver or something, lol) and sentinels should probably get a buff to their HP and or Resistances, slightly buff ewar and finally nerf Repair tools that are one of the reasons that brought sentinels to the sad and dependent state in which they find themselve's now, maybe they could get that heat build-up thing that some have suggested for a while now and gain some WP from vehicle repair to make up for it... oh, who am I kidding, nobody's going to support this.
Hahahaha no. Sentinels are fine.
Anonymous alt of an anonymous player ;)
Please, call me Carni.
I USED SCR B4 IT WAS COOL(OP)
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