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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:04:00 -
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I was sickened afterwards.
when can we put a punishment into place?
like maybe 30,000 SP lost for every battle where you 'leave'
if you don't have the SP, your start loosing levels from skills. (from highest to lowest)
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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zzZaXxx
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:06:00 -
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They new to do SOMETHING |
gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:17:00 -
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No they don't, and no they shouldn't.
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:50:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I was sickened afterwards.
when can we put a punishment into place?
like maybe 30,000 SP lost for every battle where you 'leave'
if you don't have the SP, your start loosing levels from skills. (from highest to lowest)
You can't punish players for not playing how you would want them to.
I leave a battle whenever I damn well please and if CCP was ever foolish enough to implement a punishment for it, I would quit DUST like a bad habit.
More choices, more freedom. Never less.
You would get much better results by incentivizing players to stay. Punishment would never work.
And for Christ's sake people it's "lose" not "loose" so many of you struggle with.
Lose-Win
Loose-Tight
It's a damn epidemic.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
We Forgotten Few
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Posted - 2015.04.05 17:24:00 -
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the main squad on my side left last match, i ended up going 31/1 holding a point from all comers, they eventally got me as I was brawling a heavy, taking damage from him and riflers flanking, we were both down to 5% and he ducked into cover just as a shotgun gotme. I was sad, I worked so hard to keep the point. T.T
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2015.04.05 17:27:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I was sickened afterwards.
when can we put a punishment into place?
like maybe 30,000 SP lost for every battle where you 'leave'
if you don't have the SP, your start loosing levels from skills. (from highest to lowest)
There should be a charge of ISK to leave a battle.... Around half the payout from an average match.
so 50-100k ISK to leave a match... It's the cost of doing Mercenary Business.
This way leaving a loosing match wouldn't yield you more ISK gain in the long run... It would be better just toughing out the match for 15 mins.
Yes some people have personal Life issues that may cause them to leave... But at 50-100k It will cut down on the amount of players that join a match knowing they don't have the time to completely finish it. while not being that large of a penalty that it gives some freedom of choice with consequences slight consequences involved.
Then there should be a "Good Behavior" Mechanics that rewards players who don't leave battle for 10-15 battles with an extra 100k ISK or something. |
Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
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Posted - 2015.04.05 19:00:00 -
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Again, many squads are leaving battles because one of their members is failing to join based on the new Scotty errors that have popped up and that CCP Rattati has acknowledged are being worked on.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:34:00 -
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No premade squads in pubs, no proto in pubs. Problem solved.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:36:00 -
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That's too harsh. Besides, how will you be able to tell apart a player who intentionally disconnects from that who disconnected because of bad internet?
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RolyatDerTeufel
NOMAD.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:38:00 -
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Go smoke another one bro. This time pass it so we might all know where this idea came from.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:45:00 -
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They need to publicly release everyone's "permanent record" So we can see just how many times they have left battle. Then at least everyone will know what a little b***h they are c:
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Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:47:00 -
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So leaving battle because I'm needed for PC should be punished?
Leaving to pick up a friend who just logged on is a bad thing?
Not wanting to stay in a 2v10 match is terrible?
Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:47:00 -
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Hey!!! I excepted that contract, if I leave than I pay you isk for not fulfilling my end... well that or you put a bounty on my head and so I kill you.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:50:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:So leaving battle because I'm needed for PC should be punished?
Leaving to pick up a friend who just logged on is a bad thing?
Not wanting to stay in a 2v10 match is terrible?
I think it becomes a problem when it becomes incredibly frequent.
Of course there are legitimate reasons, and doing so sparingly shouldn't be a problem, or even doing it moderately.
If someone is leaving several games for each one they play, that just throws a wrench in the works.
I would prefer to see people staying in battles better rewarded however than to punish people who leave frequently.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:51:00 -
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Last night, I was in a match with Chances Ghost, Romulous Hex, etc. I gave them a grilling when they ordered their squad to back out of the train map. I was seriously p!ssed. I don't care if you don't want to play that map; when you back out of a match, that match becomes sh!t for everyone else. You are responsible for the 16v3's, the 14v7's, and the 15v6's.
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:58:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Last night, I was in a match with Chances Ghost, Romulous Hex, etc. I gave them a grilling when they ordered their squad to back out of the train map. I was seriously p!ssed. I don't care if you don't want to play that map; when you back out of a match, that match becomes sh!t for everyone else. You are responsible for the 16v3's, the 14v7's, and the 15v6's.
Who cares
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:58:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I was sickened afterwards.
when can we put a punishment into place?
like maybe 30,000 SP lost for every battle where you 'leave'
if you don't have the SP, your start loosing levels from skills. (from highest to lowest)
.05/10 - if you feel so bad just send me your isk. |
Grimmiers
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:00:00 -
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Rattati has a trello card about rewarding players that finish battles by multiplying the payout by between 1~2x. |
Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:02:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:So leaving battle because I'm needed for PC should be punished?
Leaving to pick up a friend who just logged on is a bad thing?
Not wanting to stay in a 2v10 match is terrible?
You should have managed your time better to know when your PC's were. Your corp would have already made backup, and if it was you, you shouldn't have gone and tried to play pubs. Most PC corps even have backup for the backup. It comes down to how organied your corp is.
My friends often get on when I'm in a match, but it doesn't mean I should drop what I'm doing and leave the match - screwing over the rest of my squad and team - to go and pick them up. They can wait 10 minutes.
The third scenario you've descriped is primarily caused by people leaving the match in the first place. I don't blame you for leaving a match that's already lost, but if people stopped backing out in the beginning, you wouldn't be put in matches that have already started in the first place.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
2554
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:04:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Last night, I was in a match with Chances Ghost, Romulous Hex, etc. I gave them a grilling when they ordered their squad to back out of the train map. I was seriously p!ssed. I don't care if you don't want to play that map; when you back out of a match, that match becomes sh!t for everyone else. You are responsible for the 16v3's, the 14v7's, and the 15v6's. Who cares Edit: If matchmaking was really that good it would be able to fix another queue into the battles that people leave
Who cares? I'm sure the people who are left to fight a 10v16 care. You should know that currently, Scotty does not refill pubs after people leave. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:19:00 -
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A "punishment" for leaving battle will do NOTHING. People will just turn quit game from the dashboard or turn off their system.
If you punish people for disconnecting then this game turns into even more of a joke than it already is.
All we need is a DNF leader board for both mercenaries and their corps. Sure people will still leave battle but their falsified stats from leaving battles would not gain them entry to good corps and the higher level corps would reconsider the practice of consistently leaving battles for fear that their stats that they try hard so for would be nullified by the fact that everyone can see if they leave over 50% of battles. |
Kuruld Sengar
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
284
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:21:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:They new to do SOMETHING
Yeah, some people leave battles because they don't enjoy playing on said map. Or, they are trying to go to a certain map.
Add a feature for picking the target map, and this will be less common. |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:21:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I was sickened afterwards.
when can we put a punishment into place?
like maybe 30,000 SP lost for every battle where you 'leave'
if you don't have the SP, your start loosing levels from skills. (from highest to lowest)
lose sp and skills for leaving battle? smh |
emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.04.05 22:45:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:That's too harsh. Besides, how will you be able to tell apart a player who intentionally disconnects from that who disconnected because of bad internet?
If they press the quit button in game, it's intentional.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.04.05 22:52:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:A "punishment" for leaving battle will do NOTHING.
False, It will do something.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:
If you punish people for disconnecting then this game turns into even more of a joke than it already is.
the only joke here is this response.
it's like training a dog. you punish it when it is bad, and you reward it when it's good. it learns and obeys. the dog won't die because you scold it a few times for being bad.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:
All we need is a DNF leader board for both mercenaries and their corps.
nobody looks at the leadreboards anyway. It's all about SP.
and the leaderboard may even have an adverse effect. Corporations know that those who leave in squads are probably protostompers, and will accept the players based on that alone.....
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:43:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:They need to publicly release everyone's "permanent record" So we can see just how many times they have left battle. Then at least everyone will know what a little b***h they are c:
It's a stupid little video game. Are you serious? Get a life!
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
80
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:03:00 -
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Like some guy said to do a contract punishment every 2 battles you leave increase the money the corp or faction take away from you and it has a 2 hour cool down process which can go all the way up to losing tons of about a million isk
1st leave - warning
2nd leave- loss of isk 200 k
3rd leave - loss of 230k is
4th leave- from then on 230k multiply by how many times you leave from then on |
bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
80
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:05:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:That's too harsh. Besides, how will you be able to tell apart a player who intentionally disconnects from that who disconnected because of bad internet?
if he gets dced then you wouldn't be punished
only work around I see in this is someone turning off the pc or leaving the game entirely |
Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
508
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:07:00 -
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from a game system point of view, it doesnt make sense to lose SP from leaving a battle, perhaps an ISK fee? |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:24:00 -
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Base it only on using the leave battle option.
Tier it to allow 2 free ones then make them cost SP modifier penalties with a cumulative percentage. 10-30-60-90 % loss until downtime.
The only problem is the one I foresee would be with squad trying to q-sync. Team deploy needs to happen to fix that.
DC's, Internal Errors, and Scotties wouldn't be counted.
People would hard reset to avoid punishment, thus wasting their time and keeping them from wasting our time just a bit more.
Fix map rotation, or add a voting option.
I dislike deserters, friend or foe.
Unleash the BIMBOBOT!
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