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FIRST TESTDUMMY
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:03:00 -
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and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipatingmany even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11376
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:05:00 -
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I'll give it another week before I make my final judgement. But so far, according to my preliminary observations, matchmaking seems to finally be working. It seems Scotty may have finally finished rehab for his alcohol problem.
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5593
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:13:00 -
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I don't know what all the fuss is about. Things seem the same except for the constant 16 vs 14 matches, but the turnouts of those games are pretty even so.... |
Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1127
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:15:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days.
I think the previous year of testing the last "big" MM change has been more than ample time to realize that MM tweaks can't magically fix core issues with the game's mechanics.
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
702
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:34:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days.
I applaud all the effort and work the devs have been putting in, especially from what they have to work with. Even if I don't agree with everything they do. I feel positve about MM working also, i've had some really great games since it's been implemented. After all they could just shut Dust down, but their building it............or trying 
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11379
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:36:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. I think the previous year of testing the last "big" MM change has been more than ample time to realize that MM tweaks can't magically fix core issues with the game's mechanics.
Which is why CCP Rattati and his team have been recently busy overhauling the matchmaking system. I think he said they're just tweaking it but so far it feels like an overhaul.
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:46:00 -
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Do not! Tell me to fudging calm down! I am totally calm! Unlike your face! You see what you made me do? I didn't want to insult your raging ugly face but you made me! You know what? Fudge this! You suck!
OK, sorry, I felt compelled to lash out my calmness. Any who, mm is good, especially the red ones.
BRUH.
Closed Beta Vet
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Vicious Minotaur
2265
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:49:00 -
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No.
I shall calm up.
I am a minotaur.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
19651
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:15:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. I think the previous year of testing the last "big" MM change has been more than ample time to realize that MM tweaks can't magically fix core issues with the game's mechanics.
Sorry, but I have no idea what you are referring to.
Launch
MatchMaker 1.0 - not very good - prioritizes waiting time over similarity, teams are random
Uprising 1.4 - Feb 2014
MatchMaker 1.1 - intended to create battles with similar players, fails and is pulled completely, back to 1.0
Uprising 1.4.1 - Feb 2014
MatchMaker 1.0 - same as before
Hotfix - Sep 2014
Teambuilder 1.0 - works to balance teams, not to get similar players into battle
Hotfix - April 2015
- Matchmaker 2.0 - works to get similar players into battle, and works in combination with Teambuilder
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
749
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:58:00 -
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So we actually had no matchmaker whatsoever... That explains a lot... LOL
Good Job Rattatwheaton, this gives me more hope for the future of this game than anything else in the last two years!
Might get tempted to start throwing money at you again... |
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2702
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:06:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:So we actually had no matchmaker whatsoever... That explains a lot... LOL
Good Job Rattatwheaton, this gives me more hope for the future of this game than anything else in the last two years!
Might get tempted to start throwing money at you again...
Correct.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
875
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:10:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. I think the previous year of testing the last "big" MM change has been more than ample time to realize that MM tweaks can't magically fix core issues with the game's mechanics. Sorry, but I have no idea what you are referring to. Launch MatchMaker 1.0 - not very good - prioritizes waiting time over similarity, teams are random Uprising 1.4 - Feb 2014 MatchMaker 1.1 - intended to create battles with similar players, fails and is pulled completely, back to 1.0 Uprising 1.4.1 - Feb 2014 MatchMaker 1.0 - same as before Hotfix - Sep 2014 Teambuilder 1.0 - works to balance teams, not to get similar players into battle Hotfix - April 2015 - Matchmaker 2.0 - works to get similar players into battle, and works in combination with Teambuilder
As Mad said this explains a lot. As much as it pisses me off that this is the case, the honesty is appreciated.
Don't get me wrong, I won't be putting IP my HMG any time soon, I'm glad we know now and I can't wait to see what lies in the future for Dust.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1591
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:12:00 -
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Do we really need to have the estimated wait timer tho... seeing as it showed me 35 minutes yesterday. Then 20 minutes.
I'm still toying around with how it matches me as a solo player, as one match my team was owned hard, both in terms of MCC and clones, the next match it was the roles were reversed.
But I do hope that the magic works out in mu mu land and we get this matched up good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTYNBtUbNQ
/c
DUSTBoard
DUST Server Status
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
470
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:14:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days.
Keep calm and chaos on.
Molestia approved
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5667
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:16:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:Rattatwheaton
This is what Jaysyn and I started.
#LittleShitForever
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7803
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:08:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:So we actually had no matchmaker whatsoever... That explains a lot... LOL
Dude this was a well-known problem. How did you miss that particular bus?
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
755
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:16:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:So we actually had no matchmaker whatsoever... That explains a lot... LOL
Dude this was a well-known problem. How did you miss that particular bus?
Well, that probably was some whishful ignorance on my part... LOL |
Squagga
The State Protectorate
430
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:19:00 -
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It' not exactly like we haven't been fooled by CCP before. It's kind of like the weather. I know what it'll be, when I go outside and see for myself.
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4200
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:22:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Do we really need to have the estimated wait timer tho... seeing as it showed me 35 minutes yesterday. Then 20 minutes. I'm still toying around with how it matches me as a solo player, as one match my team was owned hard, both in terms of MCC and clones, the next match it was the roles were reversed. But I do hope that the magic works out in mu mu land and we get this matched up good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTYNBtUbNQ/c
I'm playing with some of the same, played in a vet squad today and solo with only marginally differing results between the two (didn't get redlines really though beyond 1-2 out of 20+ games which was nice). If you figure out any insights let me know, also feel free to hunt me down for a squad o7
Cheers,
Cross
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1133
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:33:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days.
How you want balance something if its data are corrupted by horendous lag?
Honestly how do you want to balance teams or weapons, if there is terible lag involved?
That is quite honestly nonsence.
CCP should put more push for better stability of servers and after that.
They can start with some matchmaking and weapon balancing.
I never got what is for strategy to try fix issue without the proper core, proper foundations.
It is basicaly like build the awesome looking villa without foundations, just unstable.
Like now im In ireland, i saw somewhere article how CCP servers are somewhere england.
How CCP can explain to me (with my 50+mb wired connestion) that horendous gameplay?
And how other players can know for sure something is unbalanced/not fine with similar experience?
That is the major question.
CCP should stop fooling around and start with servers first, after that bug fixes (terrain glitches, invisible walls) and after these major issues in game, they can start with balanced matchmaking and with implementation of racials and balancing them.
If they choose otherwise, it will be just corrupted by unstable data again, end of story.
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
760
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:46:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. How you want balance something if its data are corrupted by horendous lag? Honestly how do you want to balance teams or weapons, if there is terible lag involved? That is quite honestly nonsence. CCP should put more push for better stability of servers and after that. They can start with some matchmaking and weapon balancing. I never got what is for strategy to try fix issue without the proper core, proper foundations. It is basicaly like build the awesome looking villa without foundations, just unstable. Like now im In ireland, i saw somewhere article how CCP servers are somewhere england. How CCP can explain to me (with my 50+mb wired connestion) that horendous gameplay? And how other players can know for sure something is unbalanced/not fine with similar experience? That is the major question. CCP should stop fooling around and start with servers first, after that bug fixes (terrain glitches, invisible walls) and after these major issues in game, they can start with balanced matchmaking and with implementation of racials and balancing them. If they choose otherwise, it will be just corrupted by unstable data again, end of story.
In my experience, the individual connection of your opponents (and squad mates) has a big influence on your lag.
My worst lag comes from squadding with north west and south american players. This really screws things for me (being in the central EU). But I have also experienced lag with players from italy or ireland who had less than stellar internet connections.
This is not solvable, except if you ban anybody with a bad connection from the servers... With the low playercount right now, it's very unlikely that that's going to happen.
Also, if you are in a squad, that has a Squad Leader from a different region, you will be put on a server in that region. So make sure, that the SL is always from the region as most of the players in squad. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1133
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:52:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. How you want balance something if its data are corrupted by horendous lag? Honestly how do you want to balance teams or weapons, if there is terible lag involved? That is quite honestly nonsence. CCP should put more push for better stability of servers and after that. They can start with some matchmaking and weapon balancing. I never got what is for strategy to try fix issue without the proper core, proper foundations. It is basicaly like build the awesome looking villa without foundations, just unstable. Like now im In ireland, i saw somewhere article how CCP servers are somewhere england. How CCP can explain to me (with my 50+mb wired connestion) that horendous gameplay? And how other players can know for sure something is unbalanced/not fine with similar experience? That is the major question. CCP should stop fooling around and start with servers first, after that bug fixes (terrain glitches, invisible walls) and after these major issues in game, they can start with balanced matchmaking and with implementation of racials and balancing them. If they choose otherwise, it will be just corrupted by unstable data again, end of story. In my experience, the individual connection of your opponents (and squad mates) has a big influence on my lag experience. My worst lag comes from squadding with north west and south american players. This really screws things for me (being in the central EU). But I have also experienced lag with players from italy or ireland who had less than stellar internet connections. This is not solvable, except if you ban anybody with a bad connection from the servers... With the low playercount right now, it's very unlikely that that's going to happen. Also, if you are in a squad, that has a Squad Leader from a different region, you will be put on a server in that region. So make sure, that the SL is always from the region as most of the players in squad.
There is a fix for it, more servers for regions.
I agree with latinos (once i played on EU server with mexican helvete how is this possible).
Lag compensation should me major thing for game like this.
How is possible to have smaller lag on other games, where i playing on US servers.
I never was for thath, but right now im quite for region lock.
There cannnot be balance with this amount of lag in game.
But CCP want their money and they will never do something like this for sure.
ergo
Till times will changes im out of game, sadly.
Because i supported/played/payed this game for few years.
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
760
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:55:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. How you want balance something if its data are corrupted by horendous lag? Honestly how do you want to balance teams or weapons, if there is terible lag involved? That is quite honestly nonsence. CCP should put more push for better stability of servers and after that. They can start with some matchmaking and weapon balancing. I never got what is for strategy to try fix issue without the proper core, proper foundations. It is basicaly like build the awesome looking villa without foundations, just unstable. Like now im In ireland, i saw somewhere article how CCP servers are somewhere england. How CCP can explain to me (with my 50+mb wired connestion) that horendous gameplay? And how other players can know for sure something is unbalanced/not fine with similar experience? That is the major question. CCP should stop fooling around and start with servers first, after that bug fixes (terrain glitches, invisible walls) and after these major issues in game, they can start with balanced matchmaking and with implementation of racials and balancing them. If they choose otherwise, it will be just corrupted by unstable data again, end of story. In my experience, the individual connection of your opponents (and squad mates) has a big influence on my lag experience. My worst lag comes from squadding with north west and south american players. This really screws things for me (being in the central EU). But I have also experienced lag with players from italy or ireland who had less than stellar internet connections. This is not solvable, except if you ban anybody with a bad connection from the servers... With the low playercount right now, it's very unlikely that that's going to happen. Also, if you are in a squad, that has a Squad Leader from a different region, you will be put on a server in that region. So make sure, that the SL is always from the region as most of the players in squad. There is a fix for it, more servers for regions. I agree with latinos (once i played on EU server with mexican helvete how is this possible). Lag compensation should me major thing for game like this. How is possible to have smaller lag on other games, where i playing on US servers. I never was for thath, but right now im quite for region lock. There cannnot be balance with this amount of lag in game.
Other games like cod and bf have a much bigger playerbase, and also more servers. CCP can't make more splits with the low player count, since you would be getting matches with 3v3 players from that... It's just not possible atm.
The only thing they can do, is pulling the server choice in options, to get rid of intentional lag exploit by going to a foreign server.
And we can help, by trying to avoid squads, that have too many people from far away regions in them...
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
Horizons' Edge
7
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Posted - 2015.04.03 11:04:00 -
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Tee hee hee, so players have been going postal over a new matchmaking system when its just weak thumb work?
Genius
If it's OP im using it
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
721
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Posted - 2015.04.03 11:53:00 -
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FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days.
What's THIS?! being rational?!
you're banned, leave the forums now, doors that way --->
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2628
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Posted - 2015.04.03 22:22:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. How you want balance something if its data are corrupted by horendous lag? Honestly how do you want to balance teams or weapons, if there is terible lag involved? That is quite honestly nonsence. CCP should put more push for better stability of servers and after that. They can start with some matchmaking and weapon balancing. I never got what is for strategy to try fix issue without the proper core, proper foundations. It is basicaly like build the awesome looking villa without foundations, just unstable. Like now im In ireland, i saw somewhere article how CCP servers are somewhere england. How CCP can explain to me (with my 50+mb wired connestion) that horendous gameplay? And how other players can know for sure something is unbalanced/not fine with similar experience? That is the major question. CCP should stop fooling around and start with servers first, after that bug fixes (terrain glitches, invisible walls) and after these major issues in game, they can start with balanced matchmaking and with implementation of racials and balancing them. If they choose otherwise, it will be just corrupted by unstable data again, end of story.
I agree with you with respect to foundations. The trials and tribulations this game faces today is largely attributable to a foolish disrespect for core systems and mechanics. Delusional thinking on the part of the developer played a big role also, where 'good enough' for CCP was 'pretty frakkin far from alright' for the beta testers, press and players.
Sometimes in life we inherit a house that by all rational assessment should be torn down - but we can't. It might be the house a great-grandfather built when he made the decision to homestead a new country and lift the family out of grinding poverty or die trying. It might be the place where the bones of our ancestors are buried, laid low in wars and tribulations long forgotten by the young who live on that land and walk over those forgotten bones every day.
Yes the place looks like kittenpoop. But it's still winter with spring only a promise in the air. When the ground thaws we're gonna have to excavate, stabilize, shore & pour, and then do it again before everything is right. But for now we do what we can - patch the roof, repair the furnace, insulate the worst spots, close off the coldest rooms, put a new pressure switch on the water pump, fix the toilet and the taps, check the wiring, scrub & patch the chimney, clear the drains, fix the stairs(and the fuck1ng ladders ;), throw out the garbage, salvage the junk, scrub the place from top to bottom, send the kids into town to find jobs and bank the cash until we can get to those foundations after the ground dries out.
Don't go merc, we're gonna need you on that shovel.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:16:00 -
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The MM seems very balanced these days, except for the 16vs9, 15vs10, etc... i dont know how these are balanced unless the inferior team has proto tank and that doesnt ensure anything, the map is decisive. I think the game has become more competitive and more stressful (i dont like to play VG with stress, not healthy), we-¦ll see whats gonna happen. Also they should consider rising the payouts on higher tier matches, is becoming really expensive if i just want to stay alive, not win.
PTT: I miss playing with my STD stuff BPO T-T
Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
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loumanchew
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
197
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:35:00 -
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For my part, I have been asking for some type of solo vs solo mode in the game for a while now, even though this is not quite it as far as my expectations of such system, I must say that I have been enjoying the game much more with the recent changes and I think things are on the right track. Thx whoever worked on this at CCP! |
PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1069
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:54:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:and give MM some time to work its magic. The weekend is near and I'm anticipating many even and balanced matches over the course of the next three days. I think the previous year of testing the last "big" MM change has been more than ample time to realize that MM tweaks can't magically fix core issues with the game's mechanics. Sorry, but I have no idea what you are referring to. Launch MatchMaker 1.0 - not very good - prioritizes waiting time over similarity, teams are random Uprising 1.4 - Feb 2014 MatchMaker 1.1 - intended to create battles with similar players, fails and is pulled completely, back to 1.0 Uprising 1.4.1 - Feb 2014 MatchMaker 1.0 - same as before Hotfix - Sep 2014 Teambuilder 1.0 - works to balance teams, not to get similar players into battle Hotfix - April 2015 - Matchmaker 2.0 - works to get similar players into battle, and works in combination with Teambuilder
Uprising 1.4 was Fall of 2013. We had 4 updates after it before FF2014.
Gassault Galogi Galsent
Open Beta Vet - 40 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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