KB/mouse is breaking the game remove the support for it . On dropsuits it skips the inertia for strafing and tanks can turn corners much faster. It is a insane advantage over every 1 who is using a regular controller. It cannot be that any assault suit is capable to outstrafe a HMG from 10m away.

But its not just the HMG its every gun in the game that can be made useless with the help of KB/mouse strafing (except for the massdriver). Strafing needs to be toned down ALOT. It doesnt even make sense that you are aible to move sidewards just as fast when moving forward. I dont see people at the olympics doing strafing to win a 100m race. I highly suggest that side to side movement is toned down to 50% of the regular movement speed or less.

Fun fact: because of DUST teaching me to strafe effectively, i can out strafe Destiny's aim assist and magnetism.

PS: kbm is aan inherent DPS disadvantage because of terrible emulation, it only makes up for its lack of applying damage with its movement ability.

perhaps you should do the wiggle wiggle back at them and see what happens.

MKB does thing to remove/lessen intertia.

The difference in strafing speed is negligible and practically zero in actuality.

If you'd like to join me for a game, I'll show you them side by side.

Ask Thor -- he can likely show you too.

OP: Your argument is based on a misconception. MKB does NOTHING to remove/lessen intertia.

In my direct experience, the difference in strafing speed is negligible and practically zero in terms of changing 1:1 encounters.

The only difference is that you skip the dead zone from going in one direction to the other -- it's slightly faster to go from A to D than it is to move your thumb from left to right -- and this is more than made up for the fact that you can circle and figure 8 strafe much more effectively with a DS3.

If you'd like to join me for a game, I'll show you them side by side, or ask Thor -- he can likely show you too.

Just like the cal scout had some broken hitbox, the mistaken groupthink on the forum that MKB is some kind of magical advantage belies the reality MKB it is far harder to use effectively than a DS3, with devices that mimic a DS3 (like an XIM4 or Aimon) narrowing but not filling the gap.

I challenge you or anyone else to actually use a MKB and prove me wrong.

Setting that challenge aside, the real issue here, if I may be so bold, is shoddy hit detection on fast-moving objects that is exacerbated in situations of reduced framerate -- making hitting any fast moving object (regardless of MKB or DS3 or otherwise) extremely difficult at best for any non-explosive weapon.

Respectfully...Leadfoot

Dude stop. KBM emulates controller. You're actually at a disadvantage using KBM.

So stop making excuses and passing around misinformation.

He can't help it, his ego is hurting!

Please see my amended post (and you have)....

In reality the difference between MKB and DS3 is almost impossible to see and makes virtually no difference in the encounters.

"MKB super-strafers" is simply an excuse, and if you used both as extensively as I have, I'd wager you'd agree.

I can't play right now, but if you want to play some this evening after 6PM ET, I can show you exactly what I'm talking about. I've done this with several folks and always been an eye opening experience for those people. I wish I had a capture card so I could just record it and post it -- it's truly a fallacy.

Now, don't get me wrong, the advantage is narrowed when you use an emulator giving MKB the ability to macro or use AA, but it's not the "magic solution to be a slayer" that you might expect by reading posts like this one.

The real issue is hit detection in situations of low framerate and/or high ping players -- at least as best as I can tell....Leadfoot

What time do you think you will be on tomorrow if I can not make it on this evening?

Indianna,

Every single FPS that I've ever played on a console has had AA. I'm not sure that it's evidence of "clunky aiming mechanics" so much as dozens of other shooters saying an analog stick under your thumb requires help to be effective.

But here's the rub: If they manage to fix hit detection and this issue will become just like all the other FPS games...where you don't see this gripe.

The challenge, as best as I can tell and being purely speculative, is that Dust's UE engine is maxed out and is simply not able to keep up in those certain situations noted as above when fast moving objects are virtually impossible to hit when experiencing slow framerate.

I mean, sure, we can slow down the game so we all are slow as an Amarr sentinel and it becomes who steps out of cover first or who sees who first -- but is that really the right answer?

I'd like to think not, but then again I love the fast paced shooters like Dust that are full of 1:1 encounters, and, more importantly, I'm not the one trying to fix the problem either....Leadfoot